u/RaidenBMei

Like I remember early marvel rivals there was also always some psy otp that would insta lock and dont wanna swap. She was the premier "gooner." Character because vengeance skin and later summer skin. Basically I'm just pointing out she was popular. But like, im ngl. I think shes among the rarest characters in the game rn. Idk about actual statistics just personal experience. When I see a psy im like wtf??? Like shes a rare Pokémon atp. Like are they just playing Elsa or Phoenix instead or what. Idk its just kinda sad to think about. Maybe yall see her alot I dont see this girl at all.

Alright so my last couple games i been only using the portal. In situations where I would use the invis to get the flank on the backline without being seen i have been using portal instead. And im gunna be honest its the most fun I've had on this character yet. Going in an out the portal to escape danger, using it to flank from special angles that invis could never do, or having another dive use one along with me.

I mean sure its costly. But it is not bad whatsoever. If go in and do nothing you can exit out that same portal. But to me the most fun part is the awkward angles. I could be standing in a really really weird spot and somehow still get a flank from that position just because of this ability. I could jump off the map, place a portal, and reemerge from underneath them.

Try to not be optimal for several games and only use the portal its mad fun. And once you get good with it, i don't even think it's a bad option. Do you know how fun it is to flank from underneath??? Man I was missing out. I was spamming invis and fish and didn't realize portal was 10x more fun. Using it to dodge ults too. Honestly I could probably dedicate myself to only using it and try to become the best portal black cat but we'll see

Any other diver can just go in immediately after game starts or after they respawn I have to farm up coins before I go in which essentially makes me "afk." I posted a clip here of my team dying before I can farm coins but I think the easy solution is to have ppl look at you whilst still farming coins.

Claw whip+Pursuit is a very reliable burst combo that renders you safe. The time to kill is significantly faster than spamming claw whip I seen. But most importantly you are safe doing it.

Her survival is still top notch but if you know what you are doing. Using the dash to get out safely. Pre farming invis. I frames at the right time. Double jump at the right time. Her survivability is actually still very high. I die the least in the lobby every match. If i die its because i got cocky or inted for picks. Which tells you her survival is still high if im doing that.

Her damage is decent. Like I said before claw whip plus pursuit does a good amount of dmg. Her basics do ok dmg. Her ult is decent imo. It may be more of a "win more" ult tho. Rarely is it the reason we won the team fight but more likely the reason its guaranteed.

I think her negative is uptime. If the tank pops a shield when throw ur yoink, ur uptime is hurt. If someone conveniently dashes the moment you yoink, hurts ur uptime. If you genuinely miss it hurts ur uptime. If you get a no reg it hurts your uptime.

The coin nerf and one dash made her uptime alot slower. Because even if i only have 200 coins, If i had both dashes im going in idc.

But there is a solution. Have ppl focus on you whilst still farming. You should not be stealthy whatsoever imo if u are farming. Do it in front of their faces. This is your way of getting value. Yoinking ppl from a safe spot does nothing for your team as they are just gunna abuse the 6v5 and roll your team. But if you make ppl look at you while you farm, you are diverting attention/dmg simultaneously.

And honestly. Dont always wait for a heavy amount of coins. Her basic attacks farm them pretty good. You basically slash ppl up, they turn to look at you, you can either dash through them or use pursuit. You actually dont need to save it to get out.

Basically if you maintain good uptime shes still plenty viable. Nobody is beating you in a 1v1, you are still hard to kill, dmg is tolerable, still good in brawl, ult can still be used to confirm kills.

Her negative is downtime/uptime whatever you wanna call it. But you can fix that issue somewhat.

Sehksism is the root of all things in marvel rivals.

Why is support the most hated role? Because. Its all about females.

What role are females most likely to play? Support. What gender is majority of the supports? Female. What role is hated the most? Support. See??

What's a common complaint about support players? "They just get everything handed to them.", "it's the easiest role."

But let me analyze this for you and say what other ppl won't. People just hate women. Sure you may date em, but people do not actually like them. You date them because you're attractive to them and its biology, but you dont actually like them. At least in the grand scheme of things.

What does it boil down to? OF or a similar concept. Guys cannot stand that females can be attractive and get paid for it. In a way you can say this is related to the complaints about supports. People feel its easy and they dont have to be good or talented or try and that they are boosted. (Not true btw.) Let's look at OF. Females can be good looking or hot and be made millionaires. Obviously there's alot of hot ones that aren't that Lucky but yea. They feel like its easy mode.

People subconsciously don't realize this jealousy bleeds into marvel rivals. You associate supports players as female. You may not do it consciously but unconsciously, that it's a female role. And conveniently the most hated. That's not a coincidence.

I also heard about females being like medics for people in the war.

Cyclops is outrageously op. But he's not getting complained as much about as Elsa and Black cat was. Why? Simple. They are female. DD as well dont get as much hate. Okay let me clarify. Im talking about "noise." How much more vocal the hate was. Cyclops and DD vocal hate hasn't been anywhere near as bad as Elsa and Black Cat. Im not saying ppl dont hate them, im talking specifically about noise. How much you hear ppl complain. Emma also had alot of noise. Because I dare say this, a female being op is worse than a male being op.

Ppl still cry about Luna when shes been a throw pick for multiple seasons. Other than DD, what male character has got vocal hate. BP back in the day. Maybe Spiderman with the venom teammup. Other than that, male character op noise is notably alot less. I guess Gambit. But he's a support.

Let's look at Aramori. The situation is very similar to kingsman. Yet ppl unanimously supported kingsmans side. I know its not the exact same. But it is similar. Ppl are not unanimously on her side. Why? Because shes a support main, and a female. Its almost like... People just don't like females. You may be attracted to them because of biology, but thats about where that ends.

Cyclops is op but like, lowkey. His "noise." Hasn't even been as bad as Hela or Phoenix back when they were "meta." Like yes ppl say he's op. But ppl actively complain about op females to point where you cant go somewhere in marvel rivals without seeing it.

Yes you dont like that females can get money for being attractive. But like, let it go. Many aren't even happy with their lives. Im just gunna say what no one else is saying idc. Oh but if I had that money I would be happy. No you wouldn't. Nobody in this world is happy. You got NBA players throwing away their career to do hood stuff, or rappers doing the same. Let the female sekhsism go. You'll be alright I promise you...

Dont like to post within same community in a day but wanted to get this out before game out.

1. First step is obviously choose a main.

2. Learn their moveset until you know it inside out. Until then dont touch combos

• This is because you theoretically can not know a single combo and still win if you know the game. And the comfortable you are with their moveset the easier combos will be learnt.

3. Learn combos.

4. Learn general frame rule.

• You are assumed to be unsafe after everything you do. And assume your opponent is unsafe after everything they do. Whether its a string ender or free cancel (this is not finishing strings to try to go into something else)

5. Get some fighting experience.

• You likely won't know the exact frames of moves but if you assume the general rule of most ppl are unsafe after everything they do u'll be better than 80% by default.

6. Avoid high level players for now.

• They only make you better if you actually understand wtf is going on. If you're a 6 or 7/10 it works. But if you aren't you're just gunna lose without actually knowing what's going on. You'll get greated pretty easy or land a few hits. You only fight these ppl when u understand the game somewhat.

7. Learn your character frame data and tech.

• This will get you better than anybody whose not high level by default. Once you actually understand ur own characters data now you can actually learn something getting beat up by high level players and pros.

8. Now u can fight high level players

• Once you understand combos and frame data the gap kinda closes a bit and you actually become knowledgeable enough to learn something from getting beat up.

8. Learn other characters frame data.

• Tip number 4 is general rule of assume most ppl are unsafe after they do shit. But, this isn't enough against really good players. They know what's actually safe or unsafe. Or the exact number in some cases. But this is one of the last gap closers. If i know more data than you im better than you 9/10.

9. That's pretty much it. Just keep fighting high level players and pros.

• You'll adopt things like fuzzy guards

• Using slow/big frame throws to catch fuzzy guards

• Low safe throws to be plus while simultaneously catching ppl who like to hold low

• how to punish optimally

• Punch grabs

• Proper spacing

• Mind games (Not everything is about playing properly

At a high level doing dumb stuff lowkey can work because everyone expects you do do the correct thing. This could be 3 grabs in a row. Run up throw 2 times in a row. Playing overly fundamental can get you your ass beat too. So remember this is a rock paper scissor game at heart)

What makes this game good is combination of rock paper scissors and fundamentals. Because anybody has a chance. I'm decently fundamental but im not the most fundamental out there but if you're smart that can carry you wins too. Anybody has a chance but obvious skill gap when you get good, is what makes doa good to me.

I accepted that I should rarely ever engage with dash gotta keep it to escape. It does make her more boring because personally I enjoyed the female bp playstyle zooming all over place, never using shop, only using claw whip and pursuit, and her dashes.

I didnt really touch shop with old bc. I just would act like bp. But now i adapted to that which is boring, I dont like the coin gain. Gotta just yoink someone. Pray I dont miss. Whether I do or dont gotta wait 5 seconds. But I dont even feel comfy going in till like.. 600+ I have gone in with lile 150-400 and its always kinda sus. Its just really.. not immersive to just sit there and yoink and then go in. At least a real diver has a real cooldown. This is a cooldown and a skill shot.

If BP goes in and doesn't do anything he has to wait. If i go in and dont do anything I also have to wait. Problem is my cooldown is essentially my skill shot. So like if i miss which I very well do, I technically have a longer cooldown engagement time than any other diver. Because instead of going in every 5 seconds (landing 2 yoinks), if I miss i gotta go in every 10-15 secs. And yes as a console player I can miss yoinks sometimes but a skill shot tied to ur enagage is... silly?

And no im not trying to hear just land all ur abilities bro! I mean I dont. Idk what to tell you. I land more often than not. But I dont land every yoink. And the times I dont feels really bad because my cooldown to engage ratio becomes worse than any other diver. Because my ability to go back in hinges on a skill shot.

I adapted to the one dash. But I liked it when I could swipe their entire team and get refunded when they're cluttered. You didnt just "nerf." The character you changed the character. And I know at least 2 ways that makes it unfun. One dash is unfun because I can't be a female bp anymore, less coin gain per multiple target is unfun. Cause everything hinges on a skill shot.

Also sometimes im literally not missing. The tanks would conveniently throw a shield up as I throw it or conveniently use a movement ability. So half time its not even aim. Its just inconvenience of when I actually pressed the button. That the tanks would either randomly pop a movement as if they knew i was doing it or randomly pop a shield.