What "A prophecy that misread could have been" actually means
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What "A prophecy that misread could have been" actually means

Every time I say that Palpatine’s return in The Rise of Skywalker ruins Anakin’s arc in Return of the Jedi, where he saves his son and eliminates the Emperor, fans insist that the Jedi were wrong. They claim that the true "balance of the Force" is a literal balance between light and darkness, and that Anakin brought balance by leaving the exact same number of Jedi and Sith alive at the end of Episode III. They defend this stance by hiding behind Yoda’s line: "A prophecy that misread could have been."

Alright, let’s break this down piece by piece.

George Lucas has stated across various media, such as the Prequel DVD documentaries, The Clone Wars audio commentaries, and The Star Wars Archives book, that the true essence of the Force is the Light, that the dark side is a cancer, and that Anakin restores balance to the universe by exterminating Palpatine at the end of Episode VI. Therefore, you cannot rely on the personal assumptions of other characters when the original creator of the saga confirms that "balance" means the absence of evil.

Having cleared up the most important part, what did Yoda actually mean by "A prophecy that misread could have been"?

Simple: everyone assumed Anakin would bring balance, but nobody knew exactly how.

In the final arc of The Clone Wars Season 6 (Episodes 11, 12, and 13), Master Yoda goes on a spiritual journey guided by Qui-Gon Jinn and the Force Priestesses. During his journey, Yoda must pass several spiritual trials to learn how to retain his consciousness after death and become a Force ghost, and what he discovers is crucial. He faces his own arrogance in the form of a "Dark Yoda," realizing that the Jedi were neither perfect nor free of flaws. In his final trial, he is given the chance to learn the true identity of the Sith Lord controlling the Senate and manipulating the Clone Wars (Chancellor Palpatine) before the tragic events of Episode III unfold. However, instead of giving in to the temptation of exposing Darth Sidious to save the Jedi Order from its imminent fall, Yoda chooses to forfeit that information. By doing so, he grasps the true meaning of the Prophecy; he understands that Anakin Skywalker truly is the Chosen One and that his destiny is to bring balance, which is why he chooses to save Anakin's life in his vision instead of letting him die. The Priestesses make it clear to Yoda that the Jedi Order will fall and that they will not win the current war. However, through their faith in the Chosen One, they will plant the seed for a greater victory: "Not victory in the Clone Wars, but victory for all time."

J.J. Abrams threw all this lore into the trash with The Rise of Skywalker. If Palpatine survived (or returned in a clone body), Anakin’s ultimate sacrifice in Episode VI to save Luke and destroy the Sith loses all its value. Yoda’s entire painful acceptance in The Clone Wars, where he lets the Order fall while trusting in a "victory for all time" through Anakin, becomes utterly pointless if the Sith threat was merely paused for a few decades. The Emperor's return is a cheap, improvised excuse by Disney solely to boost the box office, completely ignoring the fundamental rules of Lucas's own mythology.

So please, stop spamming that Yoda scene from Episode III out of context. Thank you very much.

u/Still-Willow-2323 — 8 hours ago

Animation Collection – Friday, July 3rd

Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs.

Pinochio.

Peter Pan.

The Aristocats.

The Little Mermaid.

The Beutty and the Beast.

The Lion King 1.

Brother Bear.

Toy Story 1.

Toy Story 2.

Toy Story 3.

A Bug's Life.

Monsters Inc.

Monsters University.

Findig Nemo.

The Incredibles 1.

Cars 1.

WALL-E.

Up.

Inside Out 1.

Inside Out 2.

Soul.

Animal Farm.

The Castle In The Sky.

The Wind Rises.

Summer Days With Coo.

Ice Age 1.

How Train Your Dragon 1.

The Croods 1.

Coraline.

Río.

The Lego Movie.

Vampires in Havana.

Flow.

u/Still-Willow-2323 — 3 days ago

Digan sus Opiniones Impopulares de películas

  1. Me gustan las Precuelas de Star Wars y no considero Canon la Trilogía de Secuelas. Amo todas las películas de Star Wars de la Era de George Lucas, incluso las Ediciones Especiales de la Trilogía Original. Disney Star Wars apesta, con excepción de algunos productos como Rogue One y Andor.

  2. No me gusta Toy Story 4. Comprendo los mensajes que intenta transmitir acerca de la necesidad de soltar el pasado y encontrar un nuevo propósito. Si fuera una obra independiente, Toy Story 4 sería una película hermosa, pero es una secuela innecesaria creada solo para hacer dinero. Ahora todos los ideales que Woody defendió estaban equivocados y El Oloroso Pete y Lotso siempre tuvieron razón. Como al parecer ser popular es lo único que le importa ahora, decide que si Bonnie no juega con él, mejor abandona a sus amigos para estar con su novia. No me importa que Toy Story 5 sea una Obra Maestra, no veré ninguna de las secuelas que hagan a partir de ahora. Toy Story solo son tres películas.

  3. Pixels me parece una comedia muy divertida y no entiendo porque todos la odian.

  4. Encanto de Disney está sobrevalorada. Solo un reciclaje de ideas ya vistas. No entiendo porque ganó el Óscar. Los Mitchells Contra Las Maquinas se lo merecían mucho más.

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u/Still-Willow-2323 — 5 days ago

La diferencia entre "perdonar" y "pasar página"

Si una persona te hace daño o pasas por un evento traumático, cada persona tiene soluciones distintas. Algunos deciden olvidarlo todo para centrarse en el presente, y otros se quedan atrapados en el pasado para siempre.

Yo considero que lo ideal es saber sanar tus heridas para poder ser feliz y vivir el presente, pero con un pequeño matiz. No puedes reescribir la historia. No puedes borrar el pasado, pero puedes tomar nota de él para evitar cometer los mismos errores. Esa es la clave. Si tú pareja te es infiel y te pide perdón, puedes elegir seguir con él o divorciarte. En cualquiera de los casos, nunca vas a poder cambiar lo que pasó. Puedes elegir pasar página, pero eso no implica que necesariamente debas perdonar. Podeis permanecer juntos, sin olvidar el engaño, o puedes dejar a tu pareja por traicionar tú confianza, pero sin quedarte con ese dolor en tu pecho para siempre.

También, desde la otra cara de la moneda, la gente no está obligada a perdonarte aunque pidas disculpas y te muestres arrepentido. Algunos sabrán seguir adelante a pesar de tus errores, y otros seguirán obsesionados contigo para siempre. Es algo que no puedes controlar.

Uno puede pasar página, pero tus experiencias son tuyas, no tienen fecha de caducidad. Algo no deja de estar mal solo porque haya pasado hace tiempo. Depende de tí seguir guardando rencor o no. Cualquiera de las dos alternativas son decisiones válidas, dependiendo del contexto. Sergindsegasonic no le guardaba rencor a Alex Gamer, pero decidió exponer sus comportamientos tóxicos en South Island, porque él fue la víctima, y tiene todo el derecho a contar su historia. Alex se victimizó diciendo que él ya había cambiado, pero se nuevo, no es lo mismo pasar página y perdonar. La gente no está obligada a perdonarte.

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u/Still-Willow-2323 — 7 days ago

I use gaming PC speakers connected to my TV for my home theater setup.

They are quite good and really shine with Blu-ray movies. Even though they weren't designed for use with a TV, I think they’re a great, budget-friendly solution if you’re just starting to build your home theater.

u/Still-Willow-2323 — 9 days ago

I use gaming PC speakers connected to my TV for my home theater setup.

They are quite good and really shine with Blu-ray movies. Even though they weren't designed for use with a TV, I think they’re a great, budget-friendly solution if you’re just starting to build your home theater.

u/Still-Willow-2323 — 9 days ago

Clarifying a few points about my last post on curating your collection

A day ago, I stated that I refuse to buy movies I don't like, specifically avoiding sequels to certain franchises in my collection. In that post, I discussed how collectors often obsess over filling their shelves without any real criteria, and I highlighted the true value of thoughtfully curating a collection.

Many took my post as a personal attack, arguing that I had no right to tell others how to collect movies and that they were free to buy whatever they pleased. I admit that using the phrase "true collectors" might have sounded pretentious on my part, and I apologize for that. However, my original intention was never to force anyone to change their buying habits. If you want to own twenty DVDs of movies you’ve never watched simply because they were cheap, go right ahead—it’s your collection. I only spoke up because, in my view, that kind of purchasing falls into the realm of mindless consumerism and diverges from my own idea of what it means to carefully curate a DVD collection.

If you believe a "true collector" is someone who buys every movie out there—even the ones they dislike—then by all means, do so; there is nothing wrong with that. It’s simply that some of us have a different vision for this hobby. Personally, I don't want to add sequels of franchises I dislike just because they are part of the complete saga, nor do I want to buy cult films without having seen them first.

Original post: https://www.reddit.com/r/PhysicalMediaMatters/comments/1udroje/dont_buy_movies_randomly_curate_them/?share_id=cXulYOYwLL6psB1bJyQj4&utm_content=2&utm_medium=android_app&utm_name=androidcss&utm_source=share&utm_term=1

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u/Still-Willow-2323 — 10 days ago

Clarifying a few points about my last post on curating your collection

A day ago, I stated that I refuse to buy movies I don't like, specifically avoiding sequels to certain franchises in my collection. In that post, I discussed how collectors often obsess over filling their shelves without any real criteria, and I highlighted the true value of thoughtfully curating a collection.

Many took my post as a personal attack, arguing that I had no right to tell others how to collect movies and that they were free to buy whatever they pleased. I admit that using the phrase "true collectors" might have sounded pretentious on my part, and I apologize for that. However, my original intention was never to force anyone to change their buying habits. If you want to own twenty DVDs of movies you’ve never watched simply because they were cheap, go right ahead—it’s your collection. I only spoke up because, in my view, that kind of purchasing falls into the realm of mindless consumerism and diverges from my own idea of what it means to carefully curate a DVD collection.

If you believe a "true collector" is someone who buys every movie out there—even the ones they dislike—then by all means, do so; there is nothing wrong with that. It’s simply that some of us have a different vision for this hobby. Personally, I don't want to add sequels of franchises I dislike just because they are part of the complete saga, nor do I want to buy cult films without having seen them first.

Original post: https://www.reddit.com/r/dvdcollection/comments/1udrlyx/dont_buy_movies_randomly_curate_them/?share_id=AyxKKY2U2JJWoKw8H2CgC&utm_content=2&utm_medium=android_app&utm_name=androidcss&utm_source=share&utm_term=1

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u/Still-Willow-2323 — 10 days ago

Don't buy movies randomly. Curate them.

I see that in the collector community there's an obsession with accumulating as many titles as possible, even if you don't really like them, just to show off and take up space on your bookshelf.

I see this especially with people who try to buy every movie in a saga or franchise, even when there's a clear drop in quality, just because it's part of the collection. For example, I don't like the Star Wars Sequel Trilogy, and I only bought the six original episodes by George Lucas and Rogue One, and everyone tells me that "if I'm a true fan" I should have bought the entire Skywalker Saga, but... why do I have to buy movies I don't like?

The same thing happens to me with other sagas like Terminator or Alien. Of all the movies they have, I only bought the first two, because I feel that everything that came after the third one ruins the story. I like to create my own canon in my head about certain movies if a sequel doesn't convince me. With Terminator, I like to imagine that Judgment Day was stopped in 1992, and with Alien, I like to think that Ellen Ripley returned safely to Earth with her new adopted daughter and that Alien 3 and Resurrections never happened.

And with Toy Story, I only bought the Original Trilogy because I feel that the fourth one is a good movie at the cost of undermining the message of the first films and contradicting everything to tell a different narrative just to keep making money, just like with Toy Story 5. When I said this, everyone told me I was immature and that I should buy all the movies in the saga.

Again... why do I have to buy movies that I know I don't like and that I won't watch of my own volition? True collectors seek to preserve the works that marked them or that they consider important to their lives, not buy for the sake of buying. That's not collecting, that's consumerism.

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u/Still-Willow-2323 — 12 days ago

Don't buy movies randomly. Curate them

I see that in the collector community there's an obsession with accumulating as many titles as possible, even if you don't really like them, just to show off and take up space on your bookshelf.

I see this especially with people who try to buy every movie in a saga or franchise, even when there's a clear drop in quality, just because it's part of the collection. For example, I don't like the Star Wars Sequel Trilogy, and I only bought the six original episodes by George Lucas and Rogue One, and everyone tells me that "if I'm a true fan" I should have bought the entire Skywalker Saga, but... why do I have to buy movies I don't like?

The same thing happens to me with other sagas like Terminator or Alien. Of all the movies they have, I only bought the first two, because I feel that everything that came after the third one ruins the story. I like to create my own canon in my head about certain movies if a sequel doesn't convince me. With Terminator, I like to imagine that Judgment Day was stopped in 1992, and with Alien, I like to think that Ellen Ripley returned safely to Earth with her new adopted daughter and that Alien 3 and Resurrections never happened.

And with Toy Story, I only bought the Original Trilogy because I feel that the fourth one is a good movie at the cost of undermining the message of the first films and contradicting everything to tell a different narrative just to keep making money, just like with Toy Story 5. When I said this, everyone told me I was immature and that I should buy all the movies in the saga.

Again... why do I have to buy movies that I know I don't like and that I won't watch of my own volition? True collectors seek to preserve the works that marked them or that they consider important to their lives, not buy for the sake of buying. That's not collecting, that's consumerism.

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u/Still-Willow-2323 — 12 days ago
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CLONE WARS READING ORDER IN STAR WARS LEGENDS

​When Star Wars fans try to dive into the Expanded Universe for the first time, a common doubt that arises upon reaching the Clone Wars era is which stories should be taken into account and which shouldn't. Mainly, the biggest confusion lies in the 2008 The Clone Wars TV series and its level of importance within the Legends universe.

​Normally, some people will tell you that the 3D The Clone Wars is part of the Expanded Universe and therefore you should watch the series if you want to know the full story of Star Wars Legends. However, it is actually impossible to fit into the Old Continuity due to a number of reasons.

​Before 2008, a hierarchy existed within the Expanded Universe to rank the level of importance of stories within continuity, so that new fans of the saga would know which stories were Canon.

​The Expanded Universe tiers were:

  • G-Canon (George Lucas Canon): The pillar of the entire franchise, consisting of the first six movies.
  • C-Canon (Continuity Canon): Consisting of the comics, novels, video games, magazine articles, radio dramas, the 2D Clone Wars series, and everything else that emerged after the publication of the The Thrawn Trilogy (New Republic Trilogy).
  • S-Canon (Secondary Canon): Consisting of works released before '91, or those that conflict with continuity. Here you can find the old Marvel comics, the Ewoks and Droids TV series, old novels, the Holiday Special, and the Ewok movies.
  • N-Canon: Consisting of non-Canon stories, such as LEGO games, Angry Birds Star Wars, and parody comics like Star Wars Tales, or comics that take place in a parallel reality like Star Wars Infinities or The Star Wars.

​In 2008, George Lucas and Dave Filoni's The Clone Wars movie and series came out, telling the adventures of Anakin Skywalker and his apprentice, Ahsoka Tano. It was decided to retell, once again, an era that was already saturated with content. To fix this mess, they created a new tier of Canon called "T-Canon" (Television Canon) exclusively for this new series, which sat between G-Canon and C-Canon. This negatively affected the Legends universe.

​George Lucas simply viewed the Expanded Universe as a parallel reality. While he reviewed or referenced some works, he was never bothered by contradicting the Expanded Universe with his films, as he didn't even read all that material. Lucas and Filoni wanted creative freedom to work, which ultimately led them to contradict the Clone Wars Multimedia Project. Attempts were made to explain these changes so that The Clone Wars series could relate to the rest of the material created, but they simply couldn't; they were incompatible.

​If, despite the contradictions, you prefer to experience the universe that Dave Filoni and George Lucas built with the 2008 series, don't worry! I have created an exclusive and isolated guide, treating it as a parallel universe within Legends. Here is the exact chronology combining the specific tie-in books for the series (Wild Space, No Prisoners, Gambit) with the television seasons, completely separated from the original Multimedia Project.

​It is worth noting that some books were published after the sale of Lucasfilm to complete those The Clone Wars story arcs that were left unfinished. Because of this, there are novels that belong to both Legends and the Current Canon.

​With that cleared up, let's start with the list:

​CLONE WARS [ORIGINAL UNIVERSE 2003-2005]:

  • EPISODE II: ATTACK OF THE CLONES (with novel, comic, and video game adaptations)
  • Precipice (short story)
  • Mission to Corellia (short story)
  • Death in the Catacombs (short story)
  • Boba Fett 1: The Fight to Survive (novel)
  • Boba Fett 2: Crossfire (novel)
  • Boba Fett 3: Maze of Deception (novel)
  • Clone Wars 2D: Chapters 6-7
  • Boba Fett 4: Hunted (novel)
  • Sacrifice at Pengalan Fourth (short story)
  • Republic Commando: Hard Contact (novel)
  • Omega Squad: Targets (short story)
  • Spy League (short story)
  • Storm Fleet Warnings (short story)
  • Duel (short story)
  • Clone Wars 2D: Chapters 1-5
  • Clone Wars 2D: Chapters 8-21
  • Shatterpoint (novel)
  • Equipment (short story)
  • Legacy of the Jedi (novel)
  • Change of Seasons (short story)
  • The Hero of Cartao (short story)
  • The Cestus Deception (novel)
  • The Hive (e-book/short story)
  • Republic Commando: Triple Zero (novel)
  • SkyeWalkers (novel)
  • Odds (short story)
  • Republic Commando: True Colors (novel)
  • MedStar I: Battle Surgeons (novel)
  • MedStar: Intermezzo (short story)
  • MedStar II: Jedi Healer (novel)
  • Secrets of the Jedi (novel)
  • Jedi Trial (novel)
  • Yoda: Dark Rendezvous (novel)
  • Clone Wars 2D: Chapter 21 (continued)
  • Boba Fett 5: A New Threat (novel)
  • Boba Fett 6: Pursuit (novel)
  • Labyrinth of Evil (novel)
  • Clone Wars 2D: Chapters 22-25
  • EPISODE III: REVENGE OF THE SITH (with novel, comic, and video game adaptations)

​THE CLONE WARS [ALTERNATIVE CANON 2008]

  • EPISODE II: ATTACK OF THE CLONES (with novel, comic, and video game adaptations)
  • The Clone Wars: 2008 Movie (with novel adaptation)
  • The Clone Wars: Season 1
  • The Clone Wars: Season 2
  • The Clone Wars: Season 3 (First half)
  • Speaking Silently (short story)
  • Outfoxed (short story)
  • The Clone Wars: Secret Missions 1: Breakout Squad (novel)
  • The Clone Wars: Secret Missions 2: Curse of the Black Hole Pirates (novel)
  • The Clone Wars: Secret Missions 3: Duel at Shattered Rock (novel)
  • The Clone Wars: Secret Missions 4: Guardians of the Chiss Key (novel)
  • The Clone Wars: Wild Space (novel)
  • The Clone Wars: No Prisoners (novel)
  • The Clone Wars Gambit: Stealth (novel)
  • The Clone Wars Gambit: Siege (novel)
  • The Clone Wars: Season 3 (Second half)
  • The Wrath of Darth Maul (novel)
  • The Clone Wars: Season 4
  • The Clone Wars: Season 5
  • The Clone Wars: Season 6: The Lost Missions
  • Darth Maul: Son of Dathomir (comic)
  • Dark Disciple (novel)
  • The Clone Wars: Season 7
  • EPISODE III: REVENGE OF THE SITH (with novel, comic, and video game adaptations)

​As I said, it's better to keep The Clone Wars tie-in books as a "separate continuity" from the 2003-2005 books. This is especially useful because of authors like Karen Traviss. She wrote No Prisoners bringing in her beloved clones from Republic Commando (attempting to connect the 3D series with the old novels), but then the TV series dropped the pacifist Mandalore arc and the inhibitor chips, throwing all her hard work out the window.

u/Still-Willow-2323 — 14 days ago
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Debunking “The Prophecy was an unnecessary retcon.”

Every time I criticize the Sequel Trilogy for invalidating Anakin's redemption by resurrecting Palpatine and bringing back the Sith, fans always argue back that the Prophecy was a stupid retcon from the Prequels and that Disney did the right thing by ignoring that element for their movies.

To begin with, even if you don't like the concept of the Prophecy, bringing back the exact same villain that Anakin had killed to save his son still ruins the ending of the Original Trilogy, rendering the efforts of Luke and the Rebels useless. Destroying the Death Star meant nothing if Palpatine already had a fleet of Star Destroyers capable of destroying planets on Exegol anyway. Han went back to being a smuggler because of his son's fall to the Dark Side. The New Republic was destroyed in the blink of an eye, and Leia went back to leading a small Resistance just like at the beginning of the story. It was all for nothing that Luke managed to overcome his darkness, standing up to Palpatine in terms of his “power” and winning the ideological war by appealing to Vader's humanity, if Palpatine had a secret clone. It was all for nothing that Vader saved his son from his master if Palpatine survived and Luke failed to rebuild the Jedi Order after the civil war.

With that made clear, was the Prophecy really as unnecessary as everyone says?

Well, even though Lucas didn't plan the entire saga from the beginning, the Prequel Trilogy ended up cementing a very clear and coherent thematic arc: the fall, redemption, and legacy of Anakin Skywalker. By integrating that story with the Original Trilogy, everything (Episodes I–VI) takes on a circular and mythical structure, very much in line with the Campbellian “Hero's Journey” that Lucas always cited as an inspiration.

Calling the Chosen One prophecy a “retcon” doesn't invalidate it; retcons are valid if they reinforce the narrative. And here they do exactly that: they add tragic weight to the figure of Anakin, make his redemption in Return of the Jedi have a spiritual echo (not just a political or familial one), and close the cycle of the Jedi and the Sith.

The return of Palpatine breaks that mythical coherence because it denies the fulfillment of the prophecy: if Anakin doesn't destroy the ultimate evil and it just returns decades later, then his sacrifice loses its metaphorical and cosmic meaning. He stops being “the one who brought balance” and becomes “the one who postponed the problem for thirty years.”

In other words, even if the prophecy was an afterthought, it ended up becoming the heart of the saga, and retroactively destroying it breaks the symbolic structure that made Star Wars an epic, not just an adventure franchise.

I mean, if Anakin “defeated” the Empire but it reformed with Palpatine in charge, then he didn't really defeat it. Palpatine's defeat in Return of the Jedi represented the victory of compassion over hatred, of free will over corruption. Reviving him again strips that victory of its importance, turning it into just “another episode” within a repetitive cycle, as if Anakin's entire moral arc was just a pause in Palpatine's plan.

Anakin doesn't save anything anymore. He only delays the inevitable. The myth goes from being a meaningful redemption to a temporary band-aid that leaves no real impact, and Legends stories (like Dark Empire) were never recognized by George Lucas as part of the Canon, nor were they meant to redefine the mythical arc of the films.

“I don't read that stuff. I haven't read any of the novels. I don't know anything about that world. That's a different world than my world... When I said [other people] could make their own Star Wars stories, we decided that, like Star Trek, we would have two universes: my universe and then this other one. They try to make their universe as consistent with mine as possible, but obviously they get enthusiastic and want to go off in other directions.” —George Lucas (2005).

The “they already did it in Legends” argument doesn't make it narratively valid within the Canon. The Rise of Skywalker had the responsibility to close the saga in a satisfying way, and it failed by dodging it and recycling the main villain.

It's like saying: “If we ignore the backbone of Anakin's arc, the movies work better.” But that's like saying The Lord of the Rings is better if you ignore the ring. The prophecy and the Chosen One are not a “boring trope”; they are the mythical framework that turns the story of a father and a son into a universal legend about good, evil, and redemption. Removing it might simplify the plot, but you strip away its symbolic power. The saga becomes a series of soulless military conflicts where nothing carries weight because everything can just repeat itself.

What Palpatine's return destroys is not just the issue of “script coherence,” but the emotional and thematic weight. It deflates the catharsis achieved in Return of the Jedi and reduces Anakin's journey—and Luke's—to something irrelevant in the face of a villain who literally "appears through the power of the script" (somehow, Palpatine returned).

“B-but Lucas wanted Leia to be the Chosen One of the Force in his Sequel Trilogy!”

Yeah, I already have a post debunking that myth...

Link: https://www.reddit.com/r/StarWars_/comments/1uau6mj/leia_was_going_to_be_the_chosen_one_at_the_end_of/

u/Still-Willow-2323 — 15 days ago
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Kylo Ren had to be the final villain.

Although all fans like to misinterpret history to suit their own purposes, in the DVD commentary for Episode III, George Lucas is clear: the prophecy is fulfilled because Anakin destroys the Sith (Palpatine and himself) in Episode VI. For Lucas, "balance" isn't 50% good and 50% evil; the Dark Side is a symbiotic force that acts like a cancer, so balancing the Force required eradicating that corruption.

Source: https://youtube.com/shorts/Ae7kPiquoj0?is=ZzyAgGGlrb36e67c

The real problem with the sequels is this: if the saga wanted to explore the idea that balance is difficult to maintain, the presence of Kylo Ren and the First Order was the perfect vehicle. It's one thing for evil to reappear in the galaxy (new users of the Dark Side, new tyrants, new political threats), and quite another for the specific evil that Anakin destroyed to have never truly disappeared.

If Kylo Ren had been the final antagonist, Anakin's prophecy would still have held true. He fulfilled his destiny by ending the Sith Order led by Darth Sidious. That thirty years later a grandson obsessed with his legacy emerges and falls to the Dark Side is a logical and cyclical family tragedy, but it doesn't negate the fact that Palpatine and his empire were eradicated. The galaxy moves forward, faces new challenges, and a new generation (Rey and the others) must protect the balance that Anakin achieved.

But if Palpatine survived on Exegol, never stopped pulling the strings, created Snoke to corrupt Ben Solo, and maintained the Sith direct line, then Anakin did not destroy the Sith. He achieved a temporary truce of three decades, but the structural evil of Episodes I through VI remained alive and well in a clone laboratory.

All the users who always tell me that "prophecies are ambiguous and the balance is temporary" ignore an explicit clarification from the author: Lucas conceived the story to be viewed from Episodes I to VI as a complete work where Anakin is the hero who puts an end to the Sith threat. Having Rey kill Palpatine in Episode IX is not "continuing the story," it's rewriting the ending of Episode VI to transfer Anakin's achievement to another character. Leaving Kylo as the final villain would have preserved the coherence of the entire saga.

u/Still-Willow-2323 — 15 days ago
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"Leia was going to be the Chosen One at the end of George Lucas's Sequel Trilogy"

People always use this argument to defend the fact that Disney invalidated the Prophecy by reviving Palpatine in Episode IX, claiming that Lucas himself was going to throw out the idea of Anakin being the Chosen One of the Force destined to destroy the Sith and bring back balance anyway.

We need to break this down into a few parts…

First, that statement is false, as fans are taking a quote completely out of context from the book “The Star Wars Archives: 1999–2005”.

In his interview with Paul Duncan, when Lucas shares his original plans for the Sequel Trilogy, he explained that it would deal with rebuilding the galaxy after the civil war, concluding with the restoration of the Jedi Order led by Luke Skywalker and the Galactic Republic with Leia at the head of the new government, being the "chosen one" as the Supreme Chancellor.

"By the end of the trilogy, Luke would have rebuilt much of the Jedi, and we would have the renewal of the New Republic, with Leia, Senator Organa, becoming the Supreme Chancellor in charge of everything, so she ended up being the chosen one.”

As you can see, at no point does it mention the Prophecy of the Chosen One. Lucas refers to Leia being the Head of the New Republic government.

Still, let's assume for a moment that Disney defenders are right and Lucas did mean Leia would be the Chosen One of the Force.

Regardless of whether it was Lucas's plan or not, that Sequel Trilogy doesn't exist. George Lucas is only the author of the original six episodes and The Clone Wars, which establish the narrative that Anakin is the Chosen One destined to destroy the Sith to restore cosmic balance to the universe. Therefore, Disney cannot just ignore the core of the story for their own convenience. It’s like if they released a spin-off mini-book where, after The Return of the King, Sauron pops up and says "Hello my niggas I wasn't dead" because he had a hidden ring stashed inside an orc's anus. And at the end of that mini-story, some random new characters kill him again. Basically, the story ends right where it started; you don't achieve anything new, and you just invalidate what came before, regardless of whether Tolkien had planned it or not.

Erasing the existence of the Prophecy by bringing Palpatine back is, quite simply, a desperate move by Disney to grab fans' attention. Stories must maintain narrative consistency with what has already been told. If what was already told gets discarded, my question is: then what was the point of telling it? Rian Johnson and J.J. Abrams did not respect what George Lucas established. Changing someone else's story is just narcissistic.

Anakin's role in destroying the Empire and his master to save his son becomes meaningless because of Palpatine's survival. It means the prophecy not only failed to keep balance in the Force, but it literally never came true. The entire character arc across the original six episodes was pointless. And to top it off, not only did Palpatine not die, but he was able to reassert control over the galaxy from the shadows through Snoke. Luke Skywalker's New Jedi Order was destroyed. There is an Empire 2.0 under a different name, run by the exact same bad guy. What was Anakin's purpose in the story? None.

And defending Palpatine's return with "He also came back in the Expanded Universe" is straight up taking things out of context. Because Episode IX was the result of J.J. Abrams' lack of originality, they killed Snoke and he didn't want Kylo Ren to be the main villain. In Legends, it happened because they ran out of ideas, since they originally wanted to use a Darth Vader impersonator, and the Prequels didn't even exist back then. Even if you ignore the Prophecy, Palpatine's return ruins Anakin Skywalker's redemption in the Original Trilogy. It was wrong in Legends, and it is wrong in the New Canon.

u/Still-Willow-2323 — 16 days ago
▲ 86 r/StarWars_+1 crossposts

Rey is a Mary Sue, Luke and Anakin aren't

Anakin Skywalker, at nine years old, was a great pilot, something that might qualify him as a Gary Stu, but you have to understand the character's context. He was a slave to a scrap metal dealer, surrounded by scrap metal his entire life, which he used to build, among other things, his ship. He built his pod himself, so that's why he knows what every button does, why he has no problem repairing his vehicle during the Mos Espa race, because he knows every component of the pod. Furthermore, until Qui-Gon Jinn's arrival, he had NEVER won a race; in fact, he had NEVER even finished one. His pod always exploded halfway through. His reflexes have been honed through practice, which is why they say, "Let's see if he finishes the course this time."

Rey, sadly, is not like Anakin. She knows how to pilot a modified freighter and perform impossible maneuvers without ever having touched a ship of that size. Some might say Rey is like Luke and Anakin, since all three are mechanical experts, but if Anakin knew how to fly his pod racer, it was because HE built it, he had already piloted it before, and he failed many times before he could complete the Mos Espa course. It doesn't make sense for Rey to pilot the Millennium Falcon perfectly. It's one thing to fix parts of a vehicle and know what they're for, and quite another to pilot and perform acrobatics worthy of a seasoned pilot. And guess what? Anakin honed his skills through trial and error; he attempted to complete the Mos Espa course hundreds of times before Qui-Gon arrived, which is why his reflexes are so sharp.

In Luke's case, they say throughout the entire film that he's a good pilot. Luke himself mentions piloting his T-16 on Tatooine through Beggar's Canyon, hunting womprats in a space less than two meters wide—the same width as the Death Star's trench. During the final battle, he doesn't even do anything truly impressive; Chief Oro only uses him as a backup pilot and doesn't order him to attack until he's shot down by Darth Vader in an act of desperation.

Regarding the use of the Force, Anakin trained his entire life in a functioning Jedi Temple, and even so, he lost his first encounter against Dooku due to his arrogance. Luke, wanting to save his friends on Bespin, abandoned his training and lost his hand fighting Vader. Rey wins every single one of her fights; at best, she draws, as in The Last Jedi.

u/Still-Willow-2323 — 17 days ago
▲ 33 r/PhysicalMediaMatters+1 crossposts

Animation collection - Update June 16th

Pinochio.

Peter Pan.

The Aristocats.

The Beutty and the Beast.

The Lion King 1.

Brother Bear.

Toy Story 1.

Toy Story 2.

Toy Story 3.

A Bug's Life.

Monsters Inc.

Monsters University.

Findig Nemo.

The Incredibles 1.

Cars 1.

WALL-E.

Up.

Inside Out 1.

Inside Out 2.

Soul.

Animal Farm.

The Castle In The Sky.

The Wind Rises.

Summer Days With Coo.

Ice Age 1.

How Train Your Dragon 1.

The Croods 1.

Coraline.

Río.

The Lego Movie.

Vampires in Havana.

Flow.

u/Still-Willow-2323 — 20 days ago

Las funas sí son necesarias

Hace poco vi un post donde decían que las funas en internet no tienen ningún valor, que no es justo estar jodiendo a una persona por cosas que hizo hace veinte años, que a los que las hacen no les importa realmente la justicia y solo quieren verse moralmente superiores y bla bla bla. Pero a ver, todo depende del contexto.

No es lo mismo funar a alguien por errores antiguos que exponer sus actos recientes. Si esa persona se comporta exactamente igual ahora que antes, exponer su pasado es necesario para demostrar su patrón de comportamiento y dejar claro que no es un hecho aislado. Ahora, si sus actitudes nocivas no se han repetido en la actualidad, estoy de acuerdo en que no es válido recriminarle el pasado; pero de todas formas, la gente tampoco está obligada a perdonar. Uno debe cargar con el peso de sus acciones. Los actos tienen consecuencias.

Por ejemplo, yo expuse a un YouTuber de Sonic y Pokémon llamado Alex Gamer. Él supuestamente había pedido perdón por su comportamiento tóxico al administrar comunidades de fans, pero resulta que sigue haciendo exactamente lo mismo que hace nueve años. Es un puto tirano: grita, insulta y maltrata a todo su staff, además de arrastrar conductas machistas y de depredación, victimizándose siempre con la excusa de que su padre lo maltrató de niño. Si lo que hizo se hubiera quedado en el pasado, no lo habría funado, pero la realidad es que no ha cambiado absolutamente NADA.

Obviamente, las funas a veces están llenas de desinformación, eso no lo niego, pero el que nada debe, nada teme.

Y es que, vamos a ver, no podemos dejar pasar casos de pederastia o de gente que ha hecho grooming a menores solo porque "ha pasado mucho tiempo". Son depredadores que deben ser expuestos y denunciados para que no vuelvan a cometer sus crímenes. Porque no, esa gente no se rehabilita. Estamos hablando de enfermos, lo siento.

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u/Still-Willow-2323 — 20 days ago