u/iluvreddit

The whole COUNTERFEIT watch movement is disgusting. If you only care about wearing a good looking, reasonably high quality watch, and want to pay a reasonable price like $1000, that's fine and achievable. But why do you have to put the trademarked name of ANOTHER company on it, which is illegal. And why would you buy such a watch to support these reprehensible counterfeit companies.

I know this is a Rivian subreddit, but I'm sick of the arguments that TSLA deserves its insane valuation because of Robotaxis. Note: I am not an investor or a short seller of TSLA.

As a close competitor to future FSD offerings from Rivian, it's worth looking at where Tesla is today:

Tesla's Robotaxi project has faced major hurdles, highlighted by a crash rate of roughly one collision per 55,000 to 57,000 miles. Operating mostly in Austin, Texas, the tiny fleet of about 35 cars crashed 17 times by mid-2026, performing about 4 to 9 times worse than human drivers. While many were rear-endings, remote teleoperators caused crashes by driving into fences and barricades

Waymo's any-injury-reported crash rate is 0.71 incidents per million miles compared to a human benchmark of 3.91.

By comparison, Waymo's fatal or serious-injury-worse crash rate sits at 0.02 per million miles versus 0.23 for human drivers.

So by some measures, a self driving Tesla is 4 to 9 times worse than a human, and a human is 10 times more dangerous than a Waymo.

That puts Tesla at 40 to 90 times less safe than a Waymo.

I've ridden Waymo dozens of times and can confirm they are far safer than the average human driver, in my opinion. I believe a human is at least 10x more dangerous than a Waymo from my vast experience with human Uber drivers.

But the fact that Tesla is currently WORSE THAN A HUMAN is shocking. I wouldn't be caught dead riding in a Tesla robotaxi without a safety driver (and in fact all Robotaxis have safety drivers now)!

I'm not saying Rivian is any better than Tesla at FSD, since they don't even have FSD. But their plan to launch WITH LIDAR (same as Waymo) could be a deciding factor in making them eventually safer than Tesla's fully visual FSD, which has been a disaster.

The R2 is going to dominate US sales by late 2029.

R3 is going to dominate European sales by 2031.

A huge factory is getting built in Europe.

A large fleet of self driving R2s with Lidar will dominate Uber’s fleet by 2031.

Democratic presidents will offer huge EV incentives.

Ford and others will be buying Rivian software as the central “OS” for their cars, which is pure profit for Rivian.

Tesla is exiting the car business and the stock will drop a lot until it merges with SpaceX.

Rivian will launch a successful sedan and sports car by 2032.

New gas cars will be unheard of in 5 years.

RIVN stock is hitting $200 by 2032.