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No “old money” man is going to marry you

I’ve been around these societies, and they know who’s who. The moment you leave the room, they’re asking, “Who is she? What does she do? What family does she belong to?” They’re already sizing you up.

A lot of these people can’t simply be themselves because they have to maintain their standing within their society. And when it comes to dating, the “old money” men can spoil you because they want your energy, beauty, attention or company etc. But they’re going to want something in return. Especially if they know you come from a much lower-class background, they may feel entitled, as though they’re doing you a favour.
So if you’re a woman from a very low economic class, don’t assume these men are going to marry you just because they took you out to dinner. They can use their social class as leverage because they assume you’re more desperate, which is true, a lot of you are desperate.
Even old-money guys in their late 20s, 30s or 40s might want to sleep with you and act like any other man (tell you what you want to hear to get what he wants from you 🐱) but that doesn’t mean they’re going to marry you.
You have to be realistic.
If you’re going to deal with them, take whatever connections, opportunities or financial benefits you can get, but don’t stick around believing these men are eventually going to marry you. When they decide to get married, it is likely to be someone from a similar socioeconomic and social background, even if she’s less attractive than you.
I’m from the UK, where people treat social class almost like heritage. Someone can come from a working-class family, become a six-figure earner after being the first person in their family to graduate from university, but they’re still be regarded as working class because of where they come from.
Whereas someone like Kate Middleton, who comes from an upper-class background, could lose her wealth and end up on government assistance, and she would still be regarded as an upper-class woman because of her family background and ancestry.

Another thing about old-money men is that a lot of women, particularly Black women, don’t realise how easily they can be targeted.
Some older wealthy white men may specifically pursue Black women because they assume there’s a higher chance that a Black woman comes from a lower socioeconomic background. Online, you see a lot of Black women trying to emulate the old-money aesthetic, and they can see through it.
Especially when you’re actually in their circles, they can do these little tests. And it’s not just Black women. It’s anyone new entering their space.
They’ll use certain slang. They’ll mention particular holiday destinations, grocery stores, wines or other things associated with their class to see whether you understand the references, these references will not be found on TikTok or Instagram. They’ll do these little things to work out whether you actually belong.
And as someone who has dated men from these backgrounds but has no interest in marrying them, another thing I’ve noticed is that being asset-rich doesn’t necessarily mean being cash-rich.
A lot of generational wealth is tied up in property, investments, trusts and other assets. Especially several generations down, some people haven’t had to work particularly hard because their ancestors built the wealth they’re living off.
I dated one man for a year who had been living off his inheritance since around 2019, and by the time I knew him, he had used about 90% of it.

This is what can happen. People can burn through inherited wealth and eventually rely on government assistance. In the UK, that’s Universal Credit. But even when someone is receiving government assistance, that doesn’t necessarily mean they’ve suddenly lost their place in those social circles.
They can still be invited to balls, galas, private dinners and other exclusive events because they still belong to those circles. Their family’s name, connections and social standing don’t necessarily disappear just because they’re receiving government assistance.
They can still be surrounded by people from the same social class, attend the same private events and maintain those relationships. And if they need employment, those connections can also make it easier for them to find opportunities.

But that’s the point: don’t romanticise the lifestyle.
And you find that some of the much older men in these circles can target younger women of lower socioeconomic backgrounds as playthings, have them fighting over him for his ego and threaten to take things away from her, because she is more likely to be desperate for their money, attention or access.
That’s how young women can end up being hurt, exploited or taken advantage of.
And word spreads. Their reputation becomes known within those societies.
They will sniff you out.
It doesn’t matter how many YouTube videos you’ve watched about etiquette. They can often tell when someone doesn’t belong or when someone is trying too hard to enter their circles.
So don’t enter these spaces thinking, “I’m going to marry into old money.”
If you want to enter these spaces, make your own money. Build your own connections. Build your own assets.
Don’t sit there believing that a man is going to marry you simply because he’s sleeping with you, spending money on you or giving you access to his world.
Make your own money or take his money and elevate on your own.

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u/Exotic_Sweety — 12 hours ago

It’s hard to find a man that likes you times 10

Shera always says the man must like you times ten. But it’s not that easy! Let alone get a roster full of them.

How many of these old, ugly, rich, times 10 men are we meeting when freestyling?

Ladies, we just keep levelling up and focusing on ourselves until these men come over right?

I don’t think I’ve met a single man who likes me times 10.

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u/Dailia28 — 1 day ago

Married but bored .

I married very young to someone whose life was already established. I love him deeply, but increasingly suspect that I don’t want the life that being married to him requires. I’m frightened that I’ll leave a man I love with wealth in pursuit of greater compatibility and eventually realize that what I had was rarer than I understood. How do I distinguish fear of losing him from a genuine desire to remain married? We became involved when I was 19, I’m now 24. I have no other dating experience.

I use translated feature on portable for better fluency not native language.

And what if he is cheater?

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u/OutsideLibrary8561 — 1 day ago

Who has successfully charged a re-entry fee?

How much would you charge as a re-entry fee after this lol?

Ladies, I need the Shera Seven perspective on a re-entry fee because a man I blocked a month ago just resurfaced.

I told him I needed to go to Dallas for a private dental treatment with a specialist that I had already paid for. Long story short this is for health not beauty so it means a lot to me. A man I had been seeing long-distance paid for my hotel for the first week. He is wealthy, early 30s, and lives internationally, so we are in different countries.

The original plan was that he was going to meet me there toward the end of that week and we would continue the trip together.

Two days before he was supposed to arrive, he called and told me he suddenly had to fly to Asia for business and couldn’t come until the end of the month. We speak every day.

I was exhausted from treatment and basically said okay, we’ll discuss it later. Also my phone was bugging out and I told him, let's just text because you can't hear me.

The problem now though was that his cancellation completely changed my accommodation situation.

I asked him to extend my hotel. And this is the part that makes me cringeeeeeee typing it: I asked more than once. Probably 4-5 times over the course of about a day and a half because he was barely responding.

Asking twice already feels dangerously close to begging to me, so you can imagine how irritated I was with myself but also how I desperate I was in that moment. I never want to be in that position again.

He was several hours ahead of me in the UK, so the communication was terrible. Checkout was approaching and I had no idea whether he was handling the extension. Btw, I had the money but it would have cost me more, then it would have cost him.

Now it's checkout day! The hotel actually tried to help me. Because I had already been there for a while, they let me extend one night at a heavily reduced temporary rate and said that if he contacted them/send authorization, they could put it on his card afterward.

Still nothing from him.

Eventually, after midnight, he finally responded saying the booking link I had sent him wasn't working because it had expired.

Yeah smart guy. Because it was now a few minutes past 12AM and therefore, the next day.

I sent him another link for the remaining nights not even 5 minutes later. It was around $1,200 USD.

Then he essentially disappeared again.

At that point I stopped waiting. Btw, we had just facetimed like 2 nights prior and he was wearing an AP which costs as much as a house just FYI.

I paid for 2nd night myself. Because of unusually high hotel demand in the area due to World Cup in Dallas, those two extra nights ended up costing me around $1,600.

The next morning I decided I was done.

I was originally supposed to fly home several days later, but I bought a same-day flight home for about $700 because I wasn't going to keep paying for the hotel waiting for this man to decide whether he felt like answering me.

Then there was roughly $150 to get to the airport, another ~$120 getting home after I landed. Not to mention the money for food I spend while at the hotel for those 2 extra days, the resort fees that were mandatory.

So his last-minute cancellation/disappearing act caused me roughly $3000 in unexpected expenses.

And before anyone says “why didn't you have the money?” I'm not a bum. I keep a certain amount in checking and budget my spending. I wasn't expecting to suddenly eat over $3,000 in hotel/flight expenses because the person who was supposed to meet me changed the plan at the last minute. Thank GOD I'm not one of those girls who gets stranded in Miami after getting flewed out and I can do this, and I'm still thriving.

The night before I left when I realized I wasn't going to pay these OUTRAGEOUS hotel fees any longer, I finally sent him one sentence translated into his language:

“Your word means nothing. You’re blocked.”

And I blocked him! :)

A few days later, he called me from another number. I ignored it.

That was a month ago.

Ironically, early this morning I was awake and he crossed my mind and I said let me delete his contact, but I was working on my laptop and my phone was dead. So I said ugh, let me charge my phone and forgot.

I take a nap. And guess what? Today he called me around an hour ago.

For context, before all this, this man was talking about spending the summer together. South of France, Ibiza with his friends and brothers, soccer games, possibly going to the final in New York, asking me where I wanted to stay in Spain, this that, etc. I literally told him I wasn't particularly interested in running around Europe and would rather use the summer to get something important done for myself, ie. get treatment I had been needing, and he was completely on board.

So Dallas happened.

So now my question:

If he wants back into my life in any capacity, what would you consider an appropriate re-entry fee?
To be clear, I’m not sitting here wanting him back. I want him to materially make right what happened before I even consider entertaining a conversation.

He lives in a different country. I'm not interested in a dinner, flowers, an apology, or listening to a speech about why he didn't answer me. And after humiliating myself asking repeatedly for that hotel extension, I'm definitely not coming back into this dynamic for fucking free.

My actual unexpected expenses were around $3000.

Would you ladies make the re-entry fee the actual amount? $5k? More? I did pay for the treatment and the flight there myself (remember it was pre-booked trip and then I had to buy an earlier flight home bc of his antics).

Nobody and I mean NOBODY fucks with my well-being. My nervous system was on TEN those last three days which was not good for healing and the fact that he put me in that position I wanted to wring my hands around his neck.

I would love to know HOW you would communicate this without turning it into a long argument or sending him an itemized invoice?

Because at this point, if he wants access to me again, I feel like he needs to demonstrate it materially before I even entertainnnnn a conversation. Hence, don't fucking call me.

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u/Artistic_Spirit5181 — 1 day ago

Y’all I finally gained some dignity.

I have only discovered Shera within the past month and she’s taught me a lot!!

I left a guy I was interested on read finally. I was the main initiator and he was playing games with me I believe (hot and cold).

I finally gained the confidence to leave it and stop forcing something he doesn’t see in me.

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u/Sparklingfairy_ — 1 day ago

How to look glamorous and polished? Those women who just look so glam even when they don't have makeup!

Some of you probably already fit this, but I want to have that look/vibe too.

I feel perhaps when I have my nails done more regularly and fix my posture and the way I carry myself, it'll help.

Just wondering what do you guys think I could do to achieve that?

Even without makeup some women still look very polished and glam (granted they usually have fresh nails, shiny/tidy hair & just look fresh i.e clean clothing and lotioned skin)

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I lost the spark

Ive been leveling up for years. I quit smoking years ago
Ive been eating well etc and literally trying my best and upgraded so much. I was satisfied to where i was at
I never thought i would go back to my old habits

Shera was really right when she said you should always do what benefits you and puts yourself first

Because i have some toxic relatives that i had to take care of and be available for
In my culture family is very important

Anyways long story short the mix of lack of sleep pressure from work and toxicity that i had to put up with made me relapse and i think im a bit depressed

Im not sure this ever happened to me because even if i am tired i used to always slap myself back up after a few weeks top of rotting and get motivated

But the difference now is that i know what i have to do but i just cannot.

Ive been smoking non stop, eating like shit, its like i dont recognize myself

I barely managed to get my job done.
I hate this victim mentality but i genuinely am lost

I am seeking advice from u girls

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u/jira12345 — 1 day ago

We meet on thursday…

… still no time and place arranged.

I matched with a guy and we agreed on meeting on thursday. He said at 4 on he will be done working and hes looking forward. But he hasnt confirmed or told me a place/ time. Should I wait until tomorrow to give him the Chance to take Initiative? He is 11 years older and honestly I expect an older man to take care of the planning. Am I wrong to feel a little avoidant to even meet him as he hasnt messaged me since saturday? Or is it a clear sign hes not that interested? He ofc made compliments but I look for actions rather. Please Tell me whether thats normal or not? I havent really dated in a while as I have been in a relationship for 4,5 years and havent been dating in the last 2 years post breakup

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u/Magdalena-elijana — 1 day ago

Old money vs New money

Hi guys, has anyone dated old money guys how did it go for you? How did you maintain that relationship because I know old money standards are different? I feel they are so strict and judgmental especially if your not from their class. What were your experiences?

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u/Soggy-Routine9891 — 1 day ago

First date went well, he asked about a second date on the spot — then radio silence for 48 hrs. Normal or red flag?

Quite new to lifestyle dating but Had a really good first date (brunch) this Sunday morning — good conversation, he brought up meeting again a couple times during the date itself, seemed genuinely engaged. He was traveling internationally the next morning and mentioned he wouldn’t know his schedule until he landed and got settled.

It’s now been almost 48 hours since the date (and roughly a day since he landed) and I haven’t heard anything — no text, etc. I also haven’t reached out first.
Does this read as normal (travel + settling back in + genuinely busy person) or is asking about a second date in person and then going quiet after usually a sign the interest faded? Thinking maybe not reaching out first on my end find give much a green light?

Curious what others have experienced with this specific combo — enthusiastic in person, quiet after, but with a stated reason (travel) attached.

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u/RarePerception5382 — 2 days ago
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Found out why my boyfriend has been “helping his sister”

Found out today that the $600 my boyfriend has been sending his “sister” every month is actually going to his ex.

We've been together almost 3 years. I literally helped cover our security deposit when we moved because I had some money saved and he told me things were tight for him lol.

I only found out because I mentioned to his sister that I hoped things were getting better financially since he’d been helping her every month. She looked at me like I was insane and said he hasn’t given her money in years.

He gets home in about an hour and has no idea I know.

Anyway salmon, spaghetti and salad and Ѕtake, need carbs before whatever the fuck tonight is gonna be.

u/Effective_Love7694 — 5 days ago

Freestyling in London or US

I’m going to invest in freestyling. If you were to travel to US, which part would you go to freestyle?
And the same for UK/LONDON?

My current provider is paying my flights and stuff.

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u/Few-Watercress6381 — 2 days ago

Girlies with the audacity, I need your help

25yo dating a man thats 15 years older. I love to travel and he pays for my trips but he disrespected me last weekend. Called me self centred and close minded because I didn’t like his unseasoned food (harsh but simply put). He attempted to gaslight and manipulate me by telling me that I didn’t like the food because my friend said the food was bad and practically was being a dismissive asshole.
I told him that he either fixes his behaviour or Im going to end things with him, effective immediately because I’m not going to be around someone that dismisses me the way he did. I am am 100% willing to be single again💀 (I love being single) but I like his wallet. Tips and tricks?

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u/Any_Percentage_6629 — 3 days ago

Free styling tips to bag a rich sd/provider ‼️

Hi all I live in the suburbs early 20s female and I really want to bag a provider that’s older
I try to do free styling things
like walk rich side of town afternoons
luxury gyms trying to be more consistent with going same time early mornings….
And now my trying happy hour
However while she says go to happy hour 3 days a week it’s usually dead
Mondays -Wednesdays so my thing is trying a place 3 Thursdays In a row sitting at the bar from 6-7 for an hour and if I don’t get approached by a provider man I’ll switch the place for Thursday happy hour

Any advice how to bag a rich pricier man in suburbs where most r married family friendly etc
NYC is scary and Wall Street is a subway to get to
I’ll also be working full time in September

Appreciate help bc I refuse to settle date a mediocre guy my age and offers nothing to make my life easier from the begging (money, credit card, shopping, etc)

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u/Ok_Task_9978 — 3 days ago

The Waiting to wed subreddit…

Does anyone feel like that subreddit would majorly benefit from listening to Shera and reading Why Men Marry/Love B!tches? Like wow, the posts i’m reading on there have me in disbelief.

I finished reading Why Men Love B!tches a few days ago and one of the key points that stuck with me is how nice girls are always so persistent on marriage/engagement and centering the man in the relationship hence why men DONT take them seriously or keep them as a placeholder.

I doubt i’ll every marry for love, obviously for money but that subreddit needs a come to jesus moment lol… and self respect.

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u/PatientConfusion6341 — 3 days ago

19f/My ex, who was 13 years older than me and broke as hell 😭, constantly told me I was ugly and that he was only with me out of pity. I’ve always felt unattractive. I don’t need reassurance I just beauty advice. Any tips, please tell me.

I don’t need compliments

u/Soft-Needleworker667 — 3 days ago
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“dating in your feminine” what does that mean?

i hear it all the time “stop being in your masculine”, “lean into your feminine”, “show your feminine early”. what are people referring to when they say that?

i know it’s a spiritual practice in a way, but i also know a lot of people don’t believe in that kind of thing. What kind of things is a woman doing or not doing that would make people say she was or wasn’t in “her feminine”?

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u/AppearancePlane3470 — 4 days ago

Provider asked if I can text him more

Translation:

"My provider just asked me if I could send him more messages first and text him more in general. How should I react? I hate texting, and should I pretend to text him more for a day, or keep doing what I'm doing and only text him when he texts me? I've also noticed that for the past two days he hasn't been calling me or messaging me as much as before. Should I use that as an excuse to get a gift, or should I take advantage of the situation and enjoy having some space from him?"

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u/cherryndroses — 4 days ago

Am i supposed to level up more?

Hii girls!! I’m 20 and I’ve been following Shera since I was 17. I’m not necessarily looking for a provider right now (I honestly just want to have fun and date guys around my age who are financially well-off)

I go to a gym on the richer side of town, and I’ve noticed that a lot of guys stare at me, but very few actually approach. I don’t dress super provocatively either, just cute regular gym clothes (Lululemon, Alo, etc)
The funny thing is that the majority of the men who actually approach me and ask me out are the gym coaches, which is definitely not what I’m looking for 😭 At first I thought maybe older men or guys my age weren’t approaching because I look young or maybe I’m just not their type, but now I’m wondering if it’s more of a body language thing.
I know I’m pretty and I feel like I’ve leveled up A LOT over the past few years, so I don’t really want to assume that I need to change my appearance… but i do have a pretty serious/RBF and I almost never make eye contact with men because I don’t want them thinking they’re all that lmao…

Do you girls think I should work more on being approachable, or is it more likely that the men I’m interested in just aren’t approaching for other reasons? I’d love to hear your experiences, especially if you’ve noticed a difference after changing your body language 👀

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u/softmochii3 — 3 days ago