We may have been woeful, but that was not a penalty any day of the week.

Refereeing tonight was also dreadful.

Plenty of factors beyond "we were crap" (despite us not being great)

We now need to beat Norway away and aim to draw with Portugal at home.

EDIT: By no means am I suggesting we have no blame as a team, there is a LOT to look at - certain players were passengers - but I do disagree with this game-changing call.

Bottom of the Cymru South, just 2 points, and no apparent motivation.

Could they face the double-drop to the Ardal Leagues?

I believe we should call 1 or 2 Cymru Premier players into the Wales team every international window.

They wouldn't be starting or possibly not even playing, but they'd be training, experiencing international duty, and taking lessons back to their clubs.

This is an easy way to improve engagement with the Domestic league and encourage players to stay in Wales.

Am I being stupid with this idea?

We've had some bonkers scorelines tonight, lots of goals - what is going on?!

8-1 for Caernarfon?

EDIT: CAERNARFON WON 9:0?! WHAT IS THIS LEAGUE?

We are 4 games into the new BBC deal, and it is a mixed-to-negative bag.

Starting with the positives, it is amazing to see BBC commentators working on the games. They are just as good, if not better, than the ones on Sgorio. Additionally, the camerawork has generally been good.

However, there are plenty of issues with the coverage.

Starting with the graphics originating from Cymru Football TV - these graphics are basic, not including ones for substitutions, yellow cards, red cards, and more. Viewers could lose track of certain decisions.

Additionally, the choice to not have a pitchside presenter or a central studio is problematic. BBC Northern Ireland can get one for Irish League Football Live. BBC Scotland can get one for Sportscene: Scottish Championship Live. BBC Cymru Wales are the only national division unable to provide a studio or hosts.

Half-times feel empty with that slide, which is annoying. At the very least, put some highlights on from other games at halftime.

There are no pre‑match or post‑match interviews, leaving viewers with no analysis, no closure, and no connection to the teams. BBC Wales also provides no live text coverage for Cymru Premier matches, despite BBC Scotland and BBC Northern Ireland doing so for both televised and non‑televised fixtures.

BBC Wales claimed its coverage would be “excellent value for audiences” and promised “extensive coverage updates” online. Neither claim reflects reality. If the BBC wants to rebuild trust with Cymru Premier supporters after 23 years of neglect, it must invest properly and bring its Welsh coverage up to standard.

Would like to hear your thoughts too.

>"The attacker pushes the defender in the back to win the header. The laws of the game are pretty clear on this. Whether we like the laws or not is a different discussion but the role of the match official is to apply them. To then have supporters blaming them for applying the laws simply adds pressure to an already very difficult role. We must support our match officials and the tough role they have rather than constantly knocking them ... and any supppory (sic) they are given to make better decisions"

I disagree, it's a clear dive.

TNS very lucky to get the 3 points, Barry ridiculously unlucky.​