u/silver_orchid04

I've seen it countless times where an unattractive woman talks about her experinces with negative treatment by men. They get ridiculed, rejected, called names, asked out as a joke, stood up on dates, ignored, so on and so forth. That will do a number on your mental health and I feel as though it's just never taken seriously...

Incels will tell an unattractive woman she is "experincing what average men experince" as a way to dismiss her negative experinces. Some of them even flat out deny that a woman, ugly or not, doesn't have any guys interested in them. Ugly women are literally gaslit to shut up about men's treatment towards them because incels believe every woman has men in their dm's and hitting on them when they themselves only really "care" about attractive women. If they admitted that, it would show how shallow they really are so they take the easy way out and pretend all women have the same experiences.

Other women who happen to be conventionally attractice by patriarichal standards also tend to gaslight unattractive women in their own way. An ugly woman will complain about how men are treating her like sht and other more attractive women will go "well at least you dont get catcalled", "at least you dont have so many men persuing you". It takes away from the unattactive woman's experience and makes it all about the attractive woman.

I just hate that unattractive women are not allowed to talk abour our problems and how we are treated like we either don't exist or that we offend someone before even opening our mouth. And if we point out how conventionally attractive women are gaslighting our experiences, we are the ones demonized and told we have internalized misogyny.

I just wish every woman had a voice to be able to share our experiences without feeling like we did something wrong. No one wants to feel ignored or excluded from their group because they dont fit "beauty standards" or because they're neurodivergent, shy, loud, etc. I feel like we could fight the patriarchy more if all of us women listen to each other and not silence the less attractive wome..

What do you think? Why do conventionally unattractive women get gaslight, ignored or demonized for talking about their experiences with rude men?

Edit: Some of you are just proving my point that people dismiss unattractive women's experiences. Strange...

I've seen it countless times where an unattractive woman talks about her experinces with negative treatment by men. They get ridiculed, rejected, called names, asked out as a joke, stood up on dates, ignored, so on and so forth. That will do a number on your mental health and I feel as though it's just never taken seriously...

Incels will tell an unattractive woman she is "experincing what average men experince" as a way to dismiss her negative experinces. Some of them even flat out deny that a woman, ugly or not, doesn't have any guys interested in them. Ugly women are literally gaslit to shut up about men's treatment towards them because incels believe every woman has men in their dm's and hitting on them when they themselves only really "care" about attractive women. If they admitted that, it would show how shallow they really are so they take the easy way out and pretend all women have the same experiences.

Other women who happen to be conventionally attractice by patriarichal standards also tend to gaslight unattractive women in their own way. An ugly woman will complain about how men are treating her like sht and other more attractive women will go "well at least you dont get catcalled", "at least you dont have so many men persuing you". It takes away from the unattactive woman's experience and makes it all about the attractive woman.

I just hate that unattractive women are not allowed to talk abour our problems and how we are treated like we either don't exist or that we offend someone before even opening our mouth. And if we point out how conventionally attractive women are gaslighting our experiences or even humble bragging about getting attention, we are the ones demonized and told we have internalized misogyny.

I just wish every woman had a voice to be able to share our experiences without feeling like we did something wrong. No one wants to feel ignored or excluded from their group because they dont fit "beauty standards" or because they're neurodivergent, shy, loud, etc. I feel like we could fight the patriarchy more if all of us women listen to each other and not silence the less attractive wome..

What do you think? Why do conventionally unattractive women get gaslight, ignored or demonized for talking about their experiences with rude men?

I've seen it countless times where an unattractive woman talks about her experinces with negative treatment by men. They get ridiculed, rejected, called names, asked out as a joke, stood up on dates, ignored, so on and so forth. That will do a number on your mental health and I feel as though it's just never taken seriously...

Incels will tell an unattractive woman she is "experincing what average men experince" as a way to dismiss her negative experinces. Some of them even flat out deny that a woman, ugly or not, doesn't have any guys interested in them. Ugly women are literally gaslit to shut up about men's treatment towards them because incels believe every woman has men in their dm's and hitting on them when they themselves only really "care" about attractive women. If they admitted that, it would show how shallow they really are so they take the easy way out and pretend all women have the same experiences.

Other women who happen to be conventionally attractice by patriarichal standards also tend to gaslight unattractive women in their own way. An ugly woman will complain about how men are treating her like sht and other more attractive women will go "well at least you dont get catcalled", "at least you dont have so many men persuing you". It takes away from the unattactive woman's experience and makes it all about the attractive woman.

I just hate that unattractive women are not allowed to talk abour our problems and how we are treated like we either don't exist or that we offend someone before even opening our mouth. And if we point out how conventionally attractive women are gaslighting our experiences or even humble bragging about getting attention, we are the ones demonized and told we have internalized misogyny.

I just wish every woman had a voice to be able to share our experiences without feeling like we did something wrong. No one wants to feel ignored or excluded from their group because they dont fit "beauty standards" or because they're neurodivergent, shy, loud, etc. I feel like we could fight the patriarchy more if all of us women listen to each other and not silence the less attractive wome..

What do you think? Why do conventionally unattractive women get gaslight, ignored or demonized for talking about their experiences with rude men?

I've seen it countless times where an unattractive woman talks about her experinces with negative treatment by men. They get ridiculed, rejected, called names, asked out as a joke, stood up on dates, ignored, so on and so forth. That will do a number on your mental health and I feel as though it's just never taken seriously...

Incels will tell an unattractive woman she is "experincing what average men experince" as a way to dismiss her negative experinces. Some of them even flat out deny that a woman, ugly or not, doesn't have any guys interested in them. Ugly women are literally gaslit to shut up about men's treatment towards them because incels believe every woman has men in their dm's and hitting on them when they themselves only really "care" about attractive women. If they admitted that, it would show how shallow they really are so they take the easy way out and pretend all women have the same experiences.

Other women who happen to be conventionally attractice by patriarichal standards also tend to gaslight unattractive women in their own way. An ugly woman will complain about how men are treating her like sht and other more attractive women will go "well at least you dont get catcalled", "at least you dont have so many men persuing you". It takes away from the unattactive woman's experience and makes it all about the attractive woman.

I just hate that unattractive women are not allowed to talk abour our problems and how we are treated like we either don't exist or that we offend someone before even opening our mouth. And if we point out how conventionally attractive women are gaslighting our experiences or even humble bragging about getting attention, we are the ones demonized and told we have internalized misogyny.

I just wish every woman had a voice to be able to share our experiences without feeling like we did something wrong. No one wants to feel ignored or excluded from their group because they dont fit "beauty standards" or because they're neurodivergent, shy, loud, etc. I feel like we could fight the patriarchy more if all of us women listen to each other and not silence the less attractive wome..

What do you think? Why do conventionally unattractive women get gaslight, ignored or demonized for talking about their experiences with rude men?

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