r/NevilleGoddardCritics

Get off your ass.

I remember watching Niclas YT videos back in the day and finding them very well structured and more "down to earth" than some of the more emotional takes on LOA, so I tried out the program when it got cheaper. Then I found this sub lol, because his face is plastered on the front of it, with some pretty shocking experiences of UTL.

I resisted this for a long time but... yeah it's all BS that doesn't work lol. Which is heartbreaking and whatever, but the truth is the truth. The "program" itself is dead. Like it's got more members than ever but no one posts shit, barely anyone comments, Niclas doesn't get involved in the community anymore. People will post questions or about how they're struggling and they're just left to other random community members to help.

Anyway, don't want to make this a super long rambling post, but it was a super disappointing experience. The same old LOA concepts you've head a million times repeated over and over, and they don't produce any results. I even saw some ppl in there from the YT success interviews which was cool initially, but then you find out they didn't even fully manifest what they claimed or that what they manifested is now gone. I won't name names bc I'd die of embarrasment if anyone did that to me or screenshotted me. But long story short, the success stories are heavily exaggerated at best.

I wouldn't call UTL a scam, because that implies bad intent and AFAIK everyone in there still fully believes in this stuff, but it's a total waste of time. There are ppl in there who have been trying to manifest the same things for 3+ years which is terrifying. At some point you run out of excuses and just have to admit it's all BS and wishful thinking.

Not there being a whole sub of ppl hating on law of assumption..this is hilarious 😭 but yes all other religions make even more sense. Lord this is hilarious

I want to share my thoughts on the whole cult surrounding Neville Goddard and the "Law of Assumption".

It makes me angry to see how these dynamics are kept alive: they create an obsessive and unhealthy mindset. Practices like “affirm and repeat” or the “mental diet” are much more dangerous than they seem. Now that I look at this with clarity, I understand that reality is not a direct consequence of our thoughts, but I realize how these practices can easily trap fragile people, perhaps during a difficult time in their lives.

They sell you a “solution” to end your pain. At first, you feel energized, convinced that you can fix everything, but meanwhile, life keeps moving forward and you stay stuck in the idea that everything will work out only if you control your mind. It is a system built very well to trick you, based mainly on confirmation bias: our brain gives huge weight to the few times we think about something and it happens, while it discards and forgets the infinite times we thought about the same thing without getting anything.

It is not easy to get out, but I hope anyone who comes into contact with this environment can read these words and understand that this is not the way to fix things.

Today, I still believe there is something true about the power of intention, but it certainly has nothing to do with this toxic mindset. Getting involved and acting in reality is the real key. It means setting goals, feeling capable of reaching them, and doing something every day, even something small, to head in that direction. If you keep at it, the result will come. And by "goals" I don't mean toxic "manifestation" obsessions, but concrete targets (for example: I don't want to force a specific person, but I want to be with someone who truly meets my standards).

This is why you shouldn't put too much weight on "manifesting": it must not turn into a drug. Whether you know the Law or not, life flows the same way. This tool should only help you have more confidence, not make you want to desperately control or 'fix' everything around you. It has nothing to do with that unhealthy concept of ignoring reality that many unfortunately promote.

Manifesting means becoming the person capable of reaching their own goals, working on yourself through concrete actions. Being realistic and seeing things as they are is infinitely more functional and healthy than any delusional sense of omnipotence.

Even if you feel lost right now and don't know where to start, just try to imagine the person you want to be three months from now. Set realistic goals, take the first steps even if they are small, and you will see that life will reward you. Have faith, but above all, believe in yourself.

I mean think about it: we‘re all somehow alive right now on this flying rock. All of this just came to be basically out of nothing. If life and existence is possible, why not manifestation too? Why are we criticizing or even laughing at people who believe they can get their sp back, when we‘re all literally here right now somwhow?

If we look at the bigger picture, people believing in Neville goddard‘s teachings don‘t seem that crazy or delusional anymore.

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Me and my brother some time were arguing if sublinimals work. I did not believe it but he did and told me that you can do crazy things with it. So he creates a sublinimal hidden message in my dads white noise he uses to sleep.

The subliminal messages thought were that our dad believe that my brothers gf is very attractive. I laughed just by hearing.

I had totally move on with the incident until 8 months afterwards I opened my dads file to find a past homework I had done for the uni. Then I noticed a weird file and saw my brothers gf ig pics in my fathers laptop. I do not know what to think about that. Maybe it is my imagination but the timing seems suspicious

so i have seen people who have manifested money say, its the easiest thing to manifest. I haven't been able to do so yet, but I want to as I need money to pay some bills.

but I need a little help from you all, like when I decide the exact amount and believe it's nothing for the universe it will appear now how do I proceed further, like how to detach after deciding like do I completely stop thinking about it or just stay in the feeling of wish fulfilled that is money in my bank account? or keeping affirming robotically.

most of you might say, that it's not the method that manifests I understand that but I think I have a little problem in understanding - how to tell the universe my wish, how to behave after, what to do when the money is still not here?

also, if you are someone who thinks that money is the easiest to manifest, do you mind sharing how you do it and how money comes for you out of think air, like it can't be always be getting refunds or known person giving money etc. lastly, i know time shall not be a focus as we assume we have the money but how long does it usually take for you to money to come to you like a few thousands etc.?

I've noticed that most of the comments on subliminal audio videos, especially on YouTube and TikTok, seem to be from bots paying for the audio's owner. To comment on positive things, I never see a comment saying that there were no results, other than comments saying "wow, I barely listened and I already have results". I don't know if you suspect this too.

So, hear me out. You always hear how manifesting is like ordering stuff from Universe and since you order it is just pending etc?

I’ve thought about hardcore, kinky version of this, that could possibly make more imprint in our subconscious minds than ordering a package lol and thus be more effective!

So, I imagine myself being the sexiest version of me, dressed like a dominatrix and the guy I am dominating is power bottom kind and of course he represents the Universe and I command him to do stuff for me

Can be combined with O-method because why not

Maybe someone will find this useful

So ive listened to subliminals since 2019 and ive not seen one single change, I was told that not getting results had to do with my bad mindset , I was being positive and kept listening to subliminals because they gave me confidents but I never got real physical results as I started listening I noticed it wasn't doing anything for me and I was just wasting my time, I got tired of trying so I would take a break then come back listening to subliminals and the same problem would appear, there are people who claim they got results with proof but when you look at they're photo they look the same and there's no difference, so I view subliminals as a scam , It makes me sad now people make a profit off of making subliminals just to make the viewers believe it works when it does not, also every sub maker usess affirmations from text to speech or use they're voices as affirmations and they add music layer of rain sounds and they either use capcut or other apps, theres seriously no powerful way to make subliminals work and using an app and text to speech is very low chance of making a subliminal work, I feel bad for people who are insecure and rely on something that doesn't work for them it's truly sad, I know lots of people who wish they could change they're appearance but.. Subliminals can't do that and if subliminals really worked for everyone then there would be no problem

More and more sheep who blindly follow Neville Goddard and the Law of Assumption keep coming here to lecture us, telling us that we’re negative people and that because we assume the law doesn’t work, it therefore won’t work for us. Meanwhile, they act like they’re master manifestors.

The last time I made a post on this subreddit, tons of people slid into my DMs telling me the law is real, that they have proof, and that I should give it a try.
But whenever I ask them how much money they’ve actually manifested, or whether they’ve manifested a Bugatti or a luxury villa, everyone suddenly goes quiet. I have more money than most of these so-called master manifestors, and I don’t spend all day manifesting wealth or trying to stay in an “abundance mindset.” I work hard and I invest.

They’re excited when they supposedly manifest €100 (which they probably got through some ordinary reason anyway), even though that’s basically nothing. And these people think they’re gods, lol.
So unless you’re at least a millionaire, exceptionally good-looking, or living proof that this stuff works on a massive scale, don’t come trying to convince me. Go do something productive instead. Most of you sound completely delusional.

I've been thinking about Neville Goddard's teachings and one thing keeps bothering me.

A common message is:

> "You will receive what you desire. Don't worry about when or how."

But isn't that incredibly ambiguous?

My question is: exactly when?

In 1 year?

10 years?

30 years?

After I'm dead?

The timing matters. If someone says you'll get what you want but can't tell you when, then how is that different from making a prediction that can never be tested?

It seems like every possible outcome can be explained away:

You get what you wanted → manifestation worked.

You don't get it yet → keep persisting.

You get something similar → the universe delivered in a different form.

Nothing happens for years → the bridge of incidents is still unfolding.

What outcome would actually count as evidence that the teaching is wrong?

I feel this is a very clever way to be unfalsifiable and dodge accountability.

Am I missing something, or is this a valid criticism?

Hey! I don’t follow LOA, as I used to but I am really interested to actually try to understand why people think the LOA is fake.

I’ve manifested a lot of things with conscious manifestation and a bit of non dualism, and now I finally understood that manifestation is something we all do! and you’re doing it right now LOL!

Anyways I’ll try to simplify what I think, but basically when it comes to free will specifically at first I didn’t understand it because obviously i’m taking away someone’s free will by saying they like me when they probably don’t, but that’s also an assumption so therefore I am taking away their free will because I am assuming they don’t like me.

One thing i’ve noticed is people think LOA is like this magical thing when it’s literally not and shouldn’t be treated like it is, conscious manifestation is literally just about what you accept is true about YOU, as you look around yourself you can physically see the things you have accepted as true around your reality.

So I get criticizing a concept, but i’m not understanding people on here criticizing just conscious manifestation when it’s something you do everyday, i’m not saying people manifest getting SA’D, no there are real terrible people out there.

And with conscious manifestation is more about what you see isn’t the whole of who you are, which is something therapist’s even talk about, you are not what happened to you and you don’t have to be

Say you take 100 people who want to manifest their ex back. Naturally there will be a small percentage of them with success stories. Why? Because exes reach out all the time, and the likelihood of it happening for some people in a group of 100 is almost guaranteed.

Now take 100 people who want to date their celebrity crush or some person that doesn't know they exist, and you will see 0 people report back with success stories. Why? Because it's a one sided crush and that person doesn't know you exist, so the likelihood of it happening is as close to zero as it gets.

This is what LOA believers fail to realize. They will preach that the law is real because they "have success with it", but the success is just a bunch of stuff that already had a decent chance of happening, and it's stuff that most people experience who don't even know about LOA.

People that believe they proved the LOA, are just people rolling the dice over and over again for things that already had a decent probability of happening.

Lurker here gathering thoughts from the sub. I’m still practising Neville but testing myself and it constantly. Want to hear from you all