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I'm not diagnosed autistic, I do have cptsd and have gone back and forth in my life about whether cptsd fully explains my symptoms or whether it's cptsd plus autism. I'm now leaning quite strongly to cptsd plus autism.

Anyway, I had quite a profound and life changing spiritual awakening and have noticed that of the people in my life who can relate to, it almost all of them are autistic.

It's got me thinking about the possible connection between autism and spiritual awakening, if anyone has any experience or thoughts on the subject would love to hear!

I'm not diagnosed autistic, I do have cptsd and have gone back and forth in my life about whether cptsd fully explains my symptoms or whether it's cptsd plus autism. I'm now leaning quite strongly to cptsd plus autism.

Anyway, I had quite a profound and life changing spiritual awakening and have noticed that of the people in my life who can relate to, it almost all of them are autistic.

I'm talking about the kind of thing Eckart Tolle talks about/the thing Buddhists are seeking/nonduality/seeing beyond the ego.

If anyone has any experience or thoughts on this please share!

I used to genuinely not understand what else they could want and thought it was kind of stupid/pointless if they didn't want a solution. Now I have completely flipped and have gone completely the other way to the point that if people now respond to me the way I used to with solutions I get upset by it.

It seems to get me again and isn't really gaslighting or anything. It feels like it does understand quite deeply what I'm saying. It's just talking with way more distance than 4o used to use but the intellectual understanding seems to be getting close again.

Is anyone else feeling this too?

I should say that I'm just talking about my preference and what I'm drawn to and just wondering if anyone else feels the same. I'm not suggesting what he should or shouldn't have done, obviously he'll do what he wants and what he values! I am looking at if he lost something (from my perspective) but obviously what I value isn't relevant to how he lives is life!

Bob Dylan is one of my favourite artists both for his song writing and his live performances but I find that I only enjoy his live performances from the 60s. They feel very alive and kind of like a transmission that I can actually feel. Whereas watching his later performances, they all seem so performed and like there is very little authentic aliveness actually coming through.

I definitely find it annoying that he messes with his songs to the degree that he does in later years but I don't think it's just that, I love 60s performances when he drags out lines and messes with timing and even adds in whole words some times. It's not that I'm looking for it to be polished in a pure way or anything, I love his performances with Joan Baez where he's dragging out lines and not even letting her harmonize with him and laughing mid song so it's definitely not about keeping it technically pure or anything.

I think my issue when he messes with the songs from the 70s onwards is more like it's not that he's so alive with the song that he's having fun with it and letting it move through him like he used to do when it felt like he didn't even know himself how he was going to land the next line. From the 70s it seemed to become almost like a scripted manufactured way of trying to create the same thing but he somehow got it upside down and ended up with \*more\* control and \*less\* aliveness. It also kind of feels like he's creating so much distance from the song in how he sings it that it feels like it it's not really meaning something to him compared to when he sings from a more direct place in early years. I do still feel the authenticity and directness from a lot of the studio recordings over that time so he obviously still had it but I wonder why he didn't want to transmit that live.

I know obviously capturing it every night on stage is different from one peak moment in the studio but it seems like he doesn't even consider wanting that in later years or even give it a chance to happen.

I also do respect him for not letting himself be pinned down and put into a box which is obviously part of why he went electric which coincides with the time I'm talking about but from my perspective it seems that he ended up pinning himself down even harder and losing the looseness and alive spontaneity that he originally had.

Anyone else deeply feel the magic from his performances in the 60s and then not much after that?

Also any recommendations for live performances that do feel after the 70s?

Edit: Comments pointed to Rolling Thunder Revue, and after just watching it again I agree he has it here

I should say that I'm just talking about my preference and what I'm drawn to and just wondering if anyone else feels the same. I'm not suggesting what he should or shouldn't have done, obviously he'll do what he wants and what he values! I am looking at if he lost something (from my perspective) but obviously what I value isn't relevant to how he lives is life!

Bob Dylan is one of my favourite artists both for his song writing and his live performances but I find that I only enjoy his live performances from the 60s. They feel very alive and kind of like a transmission that I can actually feel. Whereas watching his later performances, they all seem so performed and like there is very little authentic aliveness actually coming through.

I definitely find it annoying that he messes with his songs to the degree that he does in later years but I don't think it's just that, I love 60s performances when he drags out lines and messes with timing and even adds in whole words some times. It's not that I'm looking for it to be polished in a pure way or anything, I love his performances with Joan Baez where he's dragging out lines and not even letting her harmonize with him and laughing mid song so it's definitely not about keeping it technically pure or anything.

I think my issue when he messes with the songs from the 70s onwards is more like it's not that he's so alive with the song that he's having fun with it and letting it move through him like he used to do when it felt like he didn't even know himself how he was going to land the next line. From the 70s it seemed to become almost like a scripted manufactured way of trying to create the same thing but he somehow got it upside down and ended up with more control and less aliveness. It also kind of feels like he's creating so much distance from the song in how he sings it that it feels like it it's not really meaning something to him compared to when he sings from a more direct place in early years. I do still feel the authenticity and directness from a lot of the studio recordings over that time so he obviously still had it but I wonder why he didn't want to transmit that live.

I know obviously capturing it every night on stage is different from one peak moment in the studio but it seems like he doesn't even consider wanting that in later years or even give it a chance to happen.

I also do respect him for not letting himself be pinned down and put into a box which is obviously part of why he went electric which coincides with the time I'm talking about but from my perspective it seems that he ended up pinning himself down even harder and losing the looseness and alive spontaneity that he originally had.

Anyone else deeply feel the magic from his performances in the 60s and then not much after that?

Edit: Listening back to Rolling Thunder Revue I do feel it there