
I think I almost fell for a scam on a whole new level
I've been apartment hunting (lol) and have encountered some obvious scams, but this is a whole other level...I'm not even sure if it is indeed a scam.
The apartment was posted on Kleinanzeigen and I answered. The price seemed decent (not too high, but also not too low). The name of the user was not the HV's name, but a silly word. I did not share any personal details aside from my name and last name.
Two days later I get a call from the woman who runs the Hausverwaltung, let's call her "C." I have no idea how she got my phone number, but I thought it was maybe sent when I answered the message. During the call C. was very nice and polite, asked a bit about what I wrote (profession, where I'm from) and invited me to a viewing. She asked me to send her an email and she replied confirming the viewing that week. She wrote that the previous tenant terminated the contract a bit earlier and the move in date would be 10 days later, at the beginning of the month.
I went to the viewing with my partner. C. was super friendly. The apartment was exactly the same as in the photos (minus the furniture, it was empty) and the previous tenant was there, with her dog, cleaning. I spoke with the previous tenant briefly, who asked if I was interested in buying the kitchen and I said yes. C. said she had some time to show us the Keller, since the previous person apparently forgot about the appointment and the one after us called in sick.
C. showed us the Keller and the bike Keller. She even briefly spoke to a neighbor who was in the Treppenhaus looking for her cat. C. then told us that cats are allowed, but that the landlord (who owns the whole building) doesn't really like dogs – and that was the reason why the previous tenant was moving after almost 20 years. She then walked us outside and made some small chat, pointing at the doorbells to show how "diverse" the neighbors are (my partner and I are gay) and that many people had been living there a long time. She even pointed at a name on the doorbell that was the same as her last name and she said "But of course, a different Frau C." We said goodbye, she said she'd be in touch very soon as I had less than 10 days to move and the landlord was apparently going on holiday in 2 weeks. I sent her my documents (incl. Personalausweis...yes...I know) and said I was interested.
After the weekend I get a call from her asking if I want to take the apartment and I say absolutely yes. She said she'd send me a draft of the lease per E-mail and we could sign 4 days later.
Well...the next morning I got an email from her with the lease and the instruction to pay the Kaution until the day of the signing. She also attached a Zahlschein. I read the lease thoroughly and saw the following paragraph:
>"Der Mieter ist bei Leistung einer Barkaution berechtigt, die Kaution zu drei gleichen monatlichen Teilzahlungen zu leisten. Die erste Teilzahlung ist zu Mietbeginn fällig."
I didn't know that this was not a normal practice, but of course this raised a million flags for me. I called the Mieterverein, who confirmed that I should only pay when my contract starts.
So, I emailed her back saying that the lease looked fine and asking very politely if there was a reason why she wanted the Kaution paid in full until the day of the signing, since it diverges from what the lease actually said.
And this is what she wrote back, 15 minutes after I emailed:
I was super shocked. This seemed like a crazy overreaction to my question. C. did try to call me 7 minutes after this email was sent out, but I don't think she tried for long because I only got a notification of a missed call, but not the actual call itself.
Of course, I tried to call back to no avail.
Now, after analyzing it a bit, I was like...was this a scam? It feels super fishy. So I went down a rabbit hole of looking her up, and I still can't tell.
Why it may be a scam:
- Asking for the Kaution ahead of time and this weird reaction
- C. does not have a Handelsregistrar number on her website's imprint and I couldn't find her company's name there either
- The landlord's address is not listed on the lease and his name has no results on Google
- The whole Kleinanzeigen thing is a bit suspicious
- The Zahlschein for the Kaution has a different account number than the one on the lease
- No reviews on Google Maps or on her social media channels
Why it may not be a scam:
- C. is on Facebook and has a personal website for her hobby (non-HV related). Her company's Facebook page has existed since 2011 and she's on Google Maps
- There are other results of her name online as a member of a Verein in the same neighborhood where her office (home office?) is
- She had the keys to the Keller
- It seemed way too authentic to be a scam
We made an Anzeige with the police nonetheless and are thinking of also alerting SCHUFA of a possible identity theft...but...yeah, this was definitely a doozy.