u/WearingMarcus

I read Andrew a year before was on the above programme

What was the set up, was he staying with his parents, were there periods he was away from his parents for large periods of time?

Did they travel over, or have to stay over every day?

I have briefly discussed this with another excellent poster, and he/she raises good points that this could be a red herring/dead end. And it really could be.

But I do think working backwards before the event may give more clues than focussing on London, which as we know, apart from the CCTV at Kings cross, is a dead end...(I know there are a few possible sightings).

Whilst Andrew is an undoubtedly a top lad, he did lie about the trip to London, or at least showed deception. Now it could have been a complete spur of the moment thing, or it could be planned. I am leaning towards planned, as he washed his clothes, waited for parents to leave etc.

Now whilst the 4 miles walks, could very well be a innocent clear the air, make a change of route as the bus route was boring on a nice day type thing...But the parents clearly stated it was a change of routine. So I am assuming he very rarely done this before...

But is there any evidence these walks took place. Did the parents have any evidence he came 1 hours plus later from school?

Is there any witness or CCTV that showed him either walking, and or not on the School bus/Public bus on these days?

imo this is important as , if evidence shows he was walking home, got an hour later home, then all this shows is he may have planned timing 4 mile walks, but other than that, its a dead end...

If he did come late, but no evidence he did these walks, then there are hours he could have spoke to someone either in person or on phone. Was he getting bullied on those busses etc. These are all vital clues as it may explain more whether London was spur of the moment or random?

1. He wore slipnot/grunge clothing. was this normal? i.e he would slip into that at any opportunity such as straight from school and or with friends or at someone's house, or would he do this for special occasions i.e if he was meeting certain group of friends?

2. Whilst it was 2007 therefore Closed circuit tv in houses was less common, there was a pick up on a Doncaster CCTV. ? London is a hip trendy place where you could argue it was more likely in 2007 people would have recordings at London houses (I am stereotyping here). Was this ever investigated? Would all people CCTV be wiped by now?

3. This is a bit of a floating vague question(s). But the walks from home instead of taking the bus is a biggie. Is there any CCTV footage of these walks? Either by government/business or households?Did he say why he did these walks to his parents? Looking at the distance it meant it would take at least an hour to get home. Would this be to test his parents if they would be worried if he broke routine, or is just simply he had something on his mind and wanted to be on his own with fresh air?

4)According to Wiki he went church and boy scouts, both of which he stopped going within 2 years of the disappearance, where the volunteers/workers here interviewed/questioned?

5. Whist this sounds harsh we have to be honest here that Andrew decided his family "see you later", only to then change, buy a ticket to London. So whilst Andrew obviously a lovely boy, he could deceive. Could there be a possibility he deceived with the lost mobile phones. Could it be he still had one seceretly? Unlikely but just a thought.

Apologies I am new to the case.

Was out in Nottingham and literally from 7 till 10ish and it was empty. From bars to restaurants.

I understand Friday night's are not the same anymore since 2008.

Was this Friday an anomaly, and it wasn't just the bars. The restaurants seemed empty as well.

I know Saturday it picks up, but surely your restaurants should be packed on a Friday?

I noticed on the Leeds forum, a number have noted increased sketchiness and antisocial behaviour in our city centres (and town). This has heightened across the UK not just Leeds.

It appears to be a post Covid thing imo. but other factors like the 2008 recession definitely contributed.

Anyway, whatever the contribution, Do you feel city centre antisocial behaviour has declined in our town/city centres?

Have you travelled round the UK centres, which ones did you find the most edgy/sketchy?

Or do you feel this is not the case, and city centres are better now than yesteryear?

Watched it the other day as the tracks itself is one of my favourites.

It only has 6.5 million views on YT.

travesty, as imo its their best.

You have this hard core track in tandem with top level college Gymnastics, but side plots jealous rivals, divorced parents, injury and even a hidden chemical brother Hitchcock esque feature that I only discovered the other day.

Anyone else rate this video?

Often we hear "Since Covid, these centres have not been he same" type, and I hear this anecdotally, not just on Reddit.

Is there any places In the UK where the town, village or City Centre far better now than before Covid?

I would argue Sheffield centre is better now, than 2019, not sure if as buzzing, but certainly looks better?

What are you guys thoughts?

Its set on like a Holiday camp in the 80s, he has this like drill device?

Does anyone know what it is, and why is he utilising it on holiday?

Whilst I was proven right about Tuchel squad selection and lack of rotation, it not just him to blame. Nor is it Southgate, or Capello, or fill in any other Manger.

England players as a team are simply technically inept.

Because we England have poor retention on and off the ball, we run more miles/Km than everyone else. Therefore by the time we get the latter stages the players are shattered.

Why I do not know, is it our training at yuoth levels? We can produce individuals, but as a team collective lack technique.

Even Scholes said this "we never dominate a game, even the England Germany 5-1".

Michael Owen said in Portugal 2004, England had to take off Scholes etc because they were shattered.

We cannot blame Premier league, as Kane was knackered by Semi and RODRI AND OTHER Argentine players seemed much fresher.

Even against so called lesser teams such as Croatia, Norway, Mexico we bare ever have much better than 50% possession, then rely on individual moments.

When ever I see clips from this, i think its a secret dig at Victoria Wood "Dinner Ladies".

I could be wrong, but its just the dynamic.

They were other comedies it could be riffing from i.e the Thin Blue Line etc, but i don't know.

Do you think When the Whistle blows is base doff any show, or just generic broad comedy shows.

Hi All

Could anyone please advise in the city boundaries of Nottingham the best Thursday pub quiz options

So far I have the Nurseryman as one option. Any others?