u/Caryslan

It's such a fun and charming game and every bit as good as Super Mario 64 without being as bloated as DK 64.

I am shocked this game has passed me by for so long, but then again, I don't have the nostalgia for the N64 most people have

I loved the NES and SNES, and then mostly played PS1 and Saturn that generation, so I missed many of the N64's classics, and when I did catch up on past Nintendo systems like the Wii, I was focused on games like Super Mario 64 and Banjo fell under the radar when I play my Xbox.

But better late than never and I am really enjoying this game.

Hell, I am even tempted to buy the duo in Smash Ultimate.

But for now, I am happy I finally played this game. It's every bit the classic that everyone says it is.

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So, after playing some rounds of the 1 on 1 tourney online, I have a very sour taste in my mouth

Basically every match I play is full of fighters using spammy characters that keep throwing projectiles in your face and then air juggle you.

Once you lose the advantage, get ready for spam with no option to get to a platform or somehow shift neutral.

Seriously, why do people like FD so much? Hell, it's almost as bad as some of the stages with hazards like Mario Bros, especially if a matchup is bad.

Like playing Ganondorf on FD with spam happy fighters.

So, a bit of context here. I have been playing in the Battering Items tourney that they are running online.

The rules are pretty much for fun. 2:30 on the timer, FS meter is on, stages are legal with hazards, and the main twist, is that Battering Items like the Hammer, Golden Hammer , Home Run Bat are the only items that spawn.

So, it's not meant to be a serious tournament, it's pretty much for fun

But I have noticed something as I play. Players aren't going for any of the Battering Items.

Some will scramble for a hammer or Golden Hammer, but I have seen players ignore even things like the Home Run Bat or the Ore Club..

There are matches where I seem to be the only player going for the Battering Items, either to use them or throw them at opponents.

Hell, there's not even a mad scramble for the Smash Ball when it shows up.

Sometimes, I seem to be the only player making an effort to claim it

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Look, I know "No Items, Final Destination, Fox Only" is a classic meme, but seriously I am shocked by how players in an item focused tourney are ignoring them or don't know how to play with items.

So, what is everyone's top five favorite Final Smashes in Ultimate?

Here are my picks for the top ten

Ganon, the Demon King(Ganondorf)

Team Star Wolf (Wolf)

NES Zapper Posse(Duck Hunt)

Blast-O-Matic(King K. Rool)

Gigaslash(Hero)

Doctor Finale(Dr. Mario)

Dedede Rush(King Dedede)

Critical Hit(Lucina)

Grand Cross(Simon)

Progenitor God Ruptured Heaven(Byleth)

Those are my picks, what made your list?

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So, I played a few 1 on 1 tourney matches with Byleth, and I fought a Samus in the first round who literally did nothing but spam missiles and charge shots and then ran away the moment I tried to approach her

Everyone of Byleth 's options were snuffed out and my only ranged option is not fast enough to let me compete with her ranged game.

After that fun experience, I beat a Wario in the first round and then play a Pac-Man who pretty much controlled the stage with hydrant setups and bonus fruit.

Again, my approaches were snuffed out and my ranges option is too slow to help

Anyone have any advice? Because I have never struggled so badly fighting characters like Samus and Pac-Man.