u/notaverysmartman

for the record this is my favorite madonna album so I'm not about to give any hot takes myself.

but yeah if you don't like it I want to hear why. why am I asking? I'm just curious. I'm not going to judge you for your opinions and I hope the others here will also be respectful.

it doesn't have to be your least favorite to qualify, it only needs to be in the bottom half of her albums if you were to personally rank them best to worst.

I'm in the middle of my first listen as I type this so I can't rate it yet but I'll leave a comment once I finish it at least, or maybe after 2 full listens. I can say it's kinda good so far. I definitely didn't hate the opener like people in 2003 apparently did. the cover art is probably my least favorite of hers though. like I see what they were going for but it wasn't executed that well. looks almost like a bootleg tbh.

I'd give it like a 7.5 or 8. more experimental was the right direction to go for her after ray of light. some of the songs have their odd bits but that's part of the charm imo, and it all comes together to make an album that can easily stand against what other pop stars were making in 2000

also the american pie cover from around the same time is so bizarre. I love it.

I'm a big fan of their (his) first album because it feels very honest, and also still sounds a bit like nirvana. his reason for making it is touching.

but after that I've never felt too strongly about their music and always saw them as more of a singles band. like I'm very happy that dave was able to continue doing what he loved but even on their acclaimed albums like the colour and the shape I only find myself interested in the hits.

imo if nirvana is a 10/10 band then foo fighters is probably a 6.5/10 on average

in some ways I like it more than four calendar cafe before it