u/SirKrimzon

This is something I’ve been thinking about recently, primarily because of comments that I’ve read online. The post is not meant to offend or be edgy, but rather to spark discussion. This is a repost from my sub /r/threadtalks where we already have an extensive discussion going but I decided to edit the pics slightly to be a bit more neutral (not as aggressive lighting for the picture of Efe, and a less objectively handsome dude than the damn director of Beams for the 2nd pic… fair critiques).

It seems that there is this strange self-flagellation amongst Caucasians when it comes to style. As far as I can tell, it’s a recent trend, but I may be mistaken. I’ve read many times (and heard in person) that white people think they can’t pull off certain looks because of their race. They utilize comments such as “finance bro” and “pasty” as if their inherent skin color somehow forbids them from being rakish. Yet, people of other races wearing clothes are more often seen as stylish (even, ironically, very traditional Anglo-American clothes such as my above examples)

I’m wondering if this is something inherent, a cultural thing, a confidence thing, a historical thing or something else? Is it false humility or ironism? If you were a white guy with some unique features (like the first dude with that voluptuous head of hair), does it counteract the perceived lack of charisma or whatever it is you need pull something off? I tried to find examples of people of color and Caucasians wearing very similar fits to be as objective as possible. Do you perceive one or the other to be more stylish? If so, why is that?

Genuinely curious where this comes from and would love to hear your thoughts.

Of course this isn’t a universal truth but I think in general if you care about your personal style, as you age, it will improve, not degrade (though your body will).

I know I’m not the only one who at random moments gets concerned with my style becoming washed as I age. But upon seeing images of stylish older gentleman, it reminds me that it doesn’t have to be that way.

Through giving less fucks, following your own intuition, and taking less influence from social media, you can naturally develop a very tasteful, unique and mature sense of style.

All of these gentleman are incredibly stylish (had to throw in Jackson Heights super unc as well for a throwback), and imo, surpass younger folk in terms of relative swag.

So if any of you were concerned about losing your sauce as you age, don’t be. You’ll be just fine, but only if you aren’t so concerned about trends and allowing the internet to dress you. It’s fine to be trend aware and throw in a subtle nod here and there, but in general, you won’t age as gracefully unless you follow your own style compass.

Interestingly, I think half these dudes are just wearing pieces they’ve owned for decades and also aren’t thinking as hard as the younger folks when putting shit on. Sprezza whatever. I can’t prove this definitively but it’s the general impression I have for why they look better. Anyways, thanks for looking. Curious to hear your thoughts as always.

Ps: I’m back on my inspo album bs and just dropped one on my subreddit /r/ThreadTalks if you are interested.

In my experience, those who promote fashion particularly on social media and whose primary identity is “fashion” almost always have a style that is less natural, charming and striking than those whose style is a natural extension of their life.

This may seem obvious but I needed this reminder in the past, and I think it’s useful to be reminded of it often.

Someone who is “in fashion” whether it’s an influencer, creative director or anyone whose full time job is in the fashion industry, just lacks that sauce that comes from a less contrived place. Real life experiences, hobbies, passions, culture and travel all shape your personal style in a far more unique, natural and beautiful way imo than just wearing what the internet dorks tell you too.

Just look at these examples I posted. It’s night and day how much better the fits are between the fashion bros and actual creatives. Of course others outside of the creative arts can have great style (Gianna Agnelli comes to mind), and certain fashion influencers have good style, but the ones with the best style imo are not thinking of fashion always, they have something greater that drives them and informs their style.

Also thank you guys for all the support for my subreddit /r/threadtalks. The vast majority of subscribers are from TF and you’ve all been awesome and I appreciate you guys giving me a chance. Would love to see more of you over there, and more contributions from other members. We talk about fashion related topics like this all the time.

I swear I’m not trying to be the lefty of kith, but I keep following him on insta in a sick way just to see how much more absurd and wack he can get.

Anyway, I think Ronnie every month or so opens wikiroulette.co and decides yep “that’s gonna be my next collab”.

Like bruh cmon, Jonah Hill wearing a heavy ass sweater for a summer collection selling kith lemonade with his face on it? What is bro smoking? Almost tempted to sell my kith x FLW sneakers because it’s embarrassing to be associated with kith now. Honestly, it’s so bad that I don’t even remember a time when kith was great. All my recent memories and associations with him are covered in a mountain of mediocre, low effort, uninspired, lame, washed dooky collabs.

Anyways, what’s the most washed brand you know analogous to the Steve Buscemi “how do you do kids” meme?

I know this will upset a lot of people but I stand on the fact that the modern Omega Seamaster divers are some of the ugliest, most un-refined and grotesque watches out there. Where do I start? For starters, the bracelet has zero taper and the link design looks like something from a cheap 70s seiko. The helium escape valve is an abomination sticking out at 10 o clock which offers no practicality for most people and is largely a gimmick. There is no cohesion to this watch. The hands are atrocious, the wavy dial is gimmicky, the clasp is about the size of an ancient spartan shield, and it looks like an awkward franken-watch that is attempting to be both dressy and sporty but achieving neither. In my head it's attempting to be that perfect "hybrid" watch for Omega, analogous to the Rolex Date-Just or Cartier Santos, but it lacks all the charm of those watches.

Vintage Seamasters are amazing and I am not knocking the movement of this watch (it is very good). I just think visually, it is quite hideous and honestly I don't know why it's so popular. Do people like it because it's "ugly but cute" in a similar vein to Crocs or Birkenstocks? Or do people just love James Bond that much and are willing to overlook the $7000 furuncle on their wrist?

Please share your hot takes!

It’s literally the quintessential tank model but all we have are a large automatic and quartz models.

We just want a medium yellow gold tank with a manual movement!

I’ve been into watches probably longer than fashion so I’ve always been curious, what you guys daily? Do you even wear a watch? Do you consider it unnecessary or more fashion nowadays given that they are largely relegated to the realm of beautiful antiquated objects? Do you think about them when designing outfits?

My grail and daily is a vintage Cartier Santos Galbee. I find it much more elegant and refined compared to the modern Santos. I can literally wear this watch with any outfit and it works. Monochrome, earth tones, T shirt, suit, whatever. It works.

Curious to see what y’all rock.

I know this is a very open ended question and the history of streetwear has spanned several decades and that there are different sub genres of streetwear.

For me the answer unequivocally is the Air Jordan 1. I don’t think any other sneaker has had more cultural influence than this sneaker. It’s a classic, quite versatile in different styles and has remained relevant for 40 years.

That is incredibly hard to do. The supreme box logo hasn’t done that. Bape camo hasn’t had that staying power. Stussy is the goat but it doesn’t have the same cultural cache as the Jordan brand.

It’s instantly recognizable and even though currently it’s a little less popular than in years past, sneakers are making a comeback amongst the masses and this shoe will be on the top again imo.

Let me know your thoughts and what pieces you consider the greatest of all time. It doesn’t have to be footwear, it can be any fashion item.

Also, if you guys have any interest in other fashion genres besides streetwear, please check out my subreddit /r/threadtalks. This is the only place on Reddit for genre-agnostic enthusiasts ranging from streetwear fans to vintage heads and even avant-garde and menswear nerds to share knowledge in an open-minded and unique way. We discuss all manner of fashion history, personal style and garment construction. Hope to see you there.

Thought this was an interesting idea. I was looking back at some of the older fits my younger self thought were peak, and it was cool to see how it changed over the years. Some things stayed the same while others didn’t. I went through the skinny jean phase where I wore nothing but Express tees two sizes too small, my MFA phase, my ALD fucc boi phase and now I’m not sure what I am. I suppose a mix of everything that came before. I’m continuing to learn and try different things though I’m far more comfortable in my style than I was before. It’ll be curious to see what I look like in another 15 years.

Hopefully this starts a trend of you guys posting similar collages.

Feel free to roast, but post fits if you do so we can roast you back.

Dweeb mods may remove this so I also posted it on my subreddit /r/threadtalks if this gets taken down.

I mean, it’s clear that Ronnie has been putting out absolute dogshit cornball products with the lamest possible collaborations known to mankind for the last few years but, this is a new low for me. Jimmy Fallon and a Sandwich shop? Is the dude literally just pulling ideas out of a random idea generator and running with it? Does he have anyone else in his company to tell him no?

I don’t even want the old kith back anymore. At this point it’s like watching a very sad movie that gets worse with every scene.

Santos Galbee and a small Panthére

What’s an article of clothing, accessory or piece of footwear that you purchased that you get so much use out of, it’s considered one of your best purchases ever?

For me it’s my red wing flatboxes. I think they perfectly straddle the spectrum all the way from dressy to rugged in a way that few boots do. There’s just enough brown details where I can wear it with earth tones, but it also looks perfect in an all black monochromatic outfit. The cherry on top is the Klondike leather which reveals brown undertones over time as the top coat wears off. Unlike most red wings, it’s quite sleek and the toe box collapses with time. It also has tonal stitching which adds to its versatility unlike most RW with that one white stitch which reads super casual.

Also, if you guys have any interest in other fashion genres besides heritage wear, please check out my subreddit /r/threadtalks. This is the only place on Reddit for genre-agnostic enthusiasts ranging from menswear nerds to vintage heads and even avant-garde and streetwear fans to share knowledge in an open-minded and unique way. We discuss all manner of fashion history, personal style and garment construction. Hope to see you there.