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Has anyone dealt with an extremely high-functioning alcoholic/addict whose success made it harder to accept how sick they were?

I’m wondering how many people here have dealt with an alcoholic/addict who was not the stereotypical picture of addiction at all.
My ex is a physician. Highly educated, intelligent, professionally successful, from an affluent and highly educated family. He completed medical school and residency, maintained employment, earned a high income, bought a large home, and could present as completely normal and accomplished to the outside world.
And yet, behind closed doors, there was chronic heavy alcohol use, daily marijuana use, cocaine use, drinking and driving, gambling, escalating risk-taking, emotional volatility, and years of rationalization. Cocaine and alcohol were often connected. He could talk about cocaine almost romantically—the taste, the sensation, how much he loved it. At one point, when our sex life had deteriorated, he actually said that maybe if he had cocaine he could have sex with me.
The part I am only now fully understanding is how much his functioning confused me.
I kept thinking: He’s a doctor. He finished residency. He goes to work. He earns good money. He can buy a house. Surely someone with a truly severe addiction couldn’t keep doing all of that.
So I kept recalibrating my definition of “bad enough.”
I also became the person trying to put guardrails around the disease. I refused to get cocaine for him. I limited my own drinking around him. I worried about his career. I worried about his license. I worried about drinking and driving. I tried to reason with him. I tried to get him to see that this was progressive. I tried to imagine the right boundary, the right conversation, the right consequence, the right amount of support.
Looking back, I was essentially trying to manage a disease that he was not meaningfully treating.
And because he remained so high-functioning, there was always another piece of evidence available to argue that maybe I was overreacting. Another workday completed. Another professional accomplishment. Another major purchase. Another period where nothing catastrophic happened.
Eventually the relationship ended, and he moved directly into another relationship. From what I know, the substance use did not simply disappear. My understanding is that cocaine and alcohol became normalized in that relationship as well.
For a long time, I tortured myself with the idea that maybe another woman could succeed where I failed. Maybe if she were more fun, more sexually available, less controlling, more accepting of the partying, willing to use with him, or simply “better” than me, he would somehow become stable and happy.
I no longer believe that.
What I see now is that I was trying to solve addiction through relationship performance. I was asking, “What could I have done differently?” when the more accurate question may have been, “What power did I ever realistically have over another adult’s untreated addiction?”
I am also confronting something uncomfortable: extreme high functioning may have prolonged my denial. His intelligence, medical training, income, and professional status did not protect him from addiction. In some ways, I think they provided better camouflage and more resources to keep the consequences at bay.
I would really like to hear from people who have experienced this specific kind of alcoholic/addict:
Someone brilliant, professionally successful, respected, financially comfortable, and outwardly functional—while privately living with serious substance use and refusing meaningful recovery.
Did their success make you question your own perception? Did you keep moving the line for what counted as “bad enough”? Did you find yourself managing consequences because you were terrified of what would happen if you stopped? And after you finally stepped away, did you realize that their functioning had hidden the severity of the disease from you for years?
I’m especially interested in hearing from people who had to accept that love, intelligence, education, professional status, and even extraordinary career achievement do not equal recovery.

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u/WritingSuitable7185 — 6 hours ago
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Is my anger justified

My Q has been working on being sober. He is more successful than not. Mostly I am indifferent when I’m with him. Today we argued about something stupid and I became so angry. It’s like every single thing that happens sends me back to what I’ve been through. There’s way more to what happened today of course. But do other people feel this way? It’s been almost three years since it was really bad and I am still so mad in the inside.

I don’t need suggestions, I’ve done Alanon, therapy, research, Put The Shovel Down etc. I really want to know if others feel the same way.

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u/mlcomp — 3 hours ago
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I’m leaving today. I need support. SOS

My Q of 4 years who was sober for 3 years and I only knew him sober, started drinking behind my back 15 months ago. I caught him. He claims to have stopped by continued to this past Feb. he promised to quit. Said he’d never lie to me ever again and is on adhd meds etc. guess what I just found this week- bottles and coolers and a receipt for booze Jul 2. I cannot believe this truly. I am at his house and discreetly grabbing my valuables. I just need my key now. I am shook . He has denied all week of drinking and I even said yesterday if you do at all anymore I will hate you. Absolutely crazy the denial . Help

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u/StatisticianTrick669 — 10 hours ago
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Looking for advice: My boyfriend’s alcoholism is taking a toll on me.

Hi everyone. This is my first time posting here, and I guess I’m just looking for some advice or maybe even just people who can relate.
I’ve been with my boyfriend for three years, and throughout our entire relationship he’s struggled with alcoholism. He was already an alcoholic before I met him, but lately his drinking has become so overwhelming for me. I would consider him a high-functioning alcoholic. He goes to work every day, he’s an amazing boyfriend, and our relationship is honestly really good except for the drinking. It feels like alcohol controls his life. He recently had a breathalyzer installed in his car after getting a DUI, and now he plans his entire day around making sure he gets everything done so he can spend the rest of the evening drinking. I’ve talked to him so many times about how worried I am for his health and how much this affects me, but he doesn’t seem to understand how serious it is. No matter how many conversations we have or how much I tell him it hurts me, he just can’t stop. What makes it even harder is that his family enables it. His mom and sister also struggle with alcohol, and they drink together sometimes. His mom doesn’t seem to think there’s anything wrong with it, so I feel like he doesn’t have much support to make a change. To make things even more emotional for me, my biological father died because of alcoholism. I’ve seen firsthand what alcohol can do to someone, so watching the person I love go down a similar path is heartbreaking and incredibly stressful. I love him so much, and I don’t want to leave him. But I’m exhausted from constantly worrying, reminding him, and feeling like I’m powerless to help. Has anyone been in a similar situation? How did you cope? Is there anything that helped your partner realize they needed to change, or did you have to accept that it was out of your hands?
Thank you for reading.

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u/SuggestionNo1298 — 4 hours ago
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Update 1: leaving my partner

When we got back to my house, I asked for my key back and he did. I showed him the receipt from Jul 2 and just said I’d respect him more if he stopped denying this. He kept saying we r over then?? Then stormed out. He said it’s his adhd why he brought his moms receipt to his house and all these coincidences keep happening that he’s sick of (same cooler he bought ended up in his bag on July 1 ). Just crazy . The denial is so severe

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u/StatisticianTrick669 — 8 hours ago
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learning indifference?

relapse after a supposed wellness retreat, and my Q (dad) has been lying to me saying that it’s his anxiety meds that make him act the way he is when he’s drunk. i am no longer asking him and getting into fights to get the truth anymore, i trust myself and my intuition. i don’t want to cut contact and i still care about him deeply, but how do i learn to be indifferent to his lying and not take it as personally?

edit - on the flip-side, he says that i need to be more caring and understanding of his situation, but how can i when he is so blatantly dishonest? i understand he’s going through a tough time, but i am so hurt all the time.

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u/Sufficient_Ad9116 — 5 hours ago
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Q Just Threatened Suicide

Moved into a great new apartment with my family 13 months ago and Q holds the lease. I’ve slowly withdrawn from life except for kids and husband. Close friend told me last week to make a list of 3 things that bring me joy, pick one each day and do it for an hour. It’s the first time I’d felt normal since discovering new Q is late stage. Spent months beating myself up for not spotting the signs as an ACOA.

From 6/2 through now Q has been steadily going downhill with hundreds of texts and emails daily to berate me for everything as her circle runs for the hills.

Finally had enough after Q admitted they were not sober when they signed the lease. Was able to get the broker to send a lease addendum after I filed a police report for harassment because broker is liable for not vetting Q.

Q woke up the day after we gave notice, felt bad and cried to a friend to call us. I refused the call. Husband took it. Less than 24 hours after tearful apologies Q was back at it, threatening suicide today. The friend called for me to go over and check on them. I refused and told the friend to call 911.

I have to come up with a plan.

Alcohol is horrible.

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u/Aggressive_Tart_7783 — 3 hours ago
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Seeking your experience: Did your addict husband or wife marry you so you can be their Safety net?

I sometimes wonder why my husband did not marry a fellow pot addict.
Never be nagged.
Just smoking and concert going then work, sleep, repeat.
Starting to wonder if addicts marry non-addicts as collision insurance.
Hear me out…
Are we just here as the rope tied to their belt as they scale, the mountain of addiction? (This analogy is not airtight. ;-) if the addiction is the steep mountain the alcohol or drugs are the climbing gear? Meh… hopefully you follow.)
Have you ever thought about this sort of thing?
or -
Do you know any addicts who married addicts?
I Assume addict couples crash and burn fast.
Do addicts have a self preserving instinct?
Not so helpless as we thought!
Shrewd move to marry me, but
I’m getting wise.
Waking up.
Thinking now;
I deserve better than standing at the bottom of a mountain being someone else’s bowline. (While staring at their ass at that!)
Done treading water waiting for him to wake up.
Grateful for your thoughts or connections. Thank you family.

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u/Ok-Amphibian-5029 — 10 hours ago
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why do you think it’s ok to have children with an addict?

i read so many posts here daily crying about their trauma and suffering at the hands of their Q that they chose to have a child with. Once they have the child and their Q keeps (even physically) abusing them, they just cry and go back repeatedly. My mom had me w my alcoholic father. I’m 26 I’ll never have a career or normal relationship with literally anything in life due to the SEVERE trauma of being raised by alcoholics. its one thing to allow yourself to suffer but how dare you CREATE another life to be ABUSED by your Q with you!!!! ON PURPOSE and not leave. don’t be surprised when your kid is utterly miserable their entire life and hates you deep down for it. you have a choice.

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u/noturghoulfri3nd — 15 hours ago
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Q finally figured out that alcohol can be delivered

Man, y'all weren't kidding about being mentally prepared for the July 4th weekend. Q has been sporadically drinking over the past couple weeks, but it took a turn yesterday.

I had been focused on grilling in the afternoon when I went to tell her something in the bedroom (she spends a majority of her time in the bed). She knows I won't be the delivery driver anymore, something I had done for many years. But she still asked me "Would you mind taking me to the liquor store?" I asked "Why would you need me to take you there?" She admitted to drinking too much to drive, so I told her "I'd rather not." As I was walking away I heard her say "I guess I'll have to drive myself."

20 minutes later she comes up to me all happy and triumphant, "They deliver!" I've known this for a couple years but now she finally figured it out. The state we live in changed the laws and I knew it was just a matter of time. Now all I can see is even more credit card debt being racked up.

So last night she approached me for sex, dropping tons of obvious hints, something she will only do when she's intoxicated. I had to "reject" her by telling her once again that "you made a choice for yourself, and I get to make one for myself too." She only takes this as abandonment and that I don't love her, no matter what I say. It's a very painful way to live.​

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u/pahdreeno431 — 9 hours ago
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Struggling with acknowledging my own faults

I acknowledge that I had things I did wrong during this relationship, confronting her about her drinking in a way that was not productive pulling away when I should’ve been trying to draw closer resenting her instead of loving her

As I’ve been grieving the last few days about my ex-wife and that we’re no longer together and missing her I tried to give myself some grace. forgive myself for things I’ve done wrong.

But at the same time, I’m overwhelmed with the fact that it was just me trying, and of course I’m gonna be doing things wrong. If I’m the only one trying, there was no communication no acknowledge of my efforts just complete self-indulgence on her part.

When I’m trying to admit my part in this whole thing, the difficult part comes in when I realize she would use my apologies and my confessions against me. All the times that I would forgive her for the horrible things she did while drinking and yet she holds on the words that I would say in anger and confronting her drinking and use them as justification that I was a bad person in real reality. I’m just reacting in a bad way to the situation.

I’m not trying to give myself a pass. I am trying to be gentle with myself and forgive myself for my part. I’m trying to be accountable, but where is her accountability? Where is her role in the damage that was done to our relationship?

I’m just grieving today again. I don’t see it ending anytime soon.

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u/tiredoftrying33 — 11 hours ago
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People who got sober: what actually helped you, and what did your friends do that made a difference?

I'm looking for some advice from people who have struggled with alcohol themselves.

One of my closest friends has been drinking heavily, including while on medication, and it's started affecting her health quite seriously. I'm really worried about her, but I also know that I can't force someone to get sober if they aren't ready.

For those of you who are in recovery or have been through something similar:

What finally helped you decide to stop drinking?

Were there any coping strategies that genuinely made a difference in the early days?

What did friends or family do that actually helped you, and what made things worse?

Is there anything you wish someone had said to you when you were at your lowest?

How can I support her without enabling her or pushing her away?

I'm also struggling with setting boundaries. I don't feel comfortable going to events that revolve around drinking anymore because I'm constantly worried about her, but I don't want her to feel abandoned either.

I'd really appreciate hearing your experiences. Thank you.

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u/IndependentAngle4304 — 8 hours ago
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How to support after rehab?

This is about my 20 year old son who is an opioid addict. Since it's not alcohol, if there's a better place to post this please let me know.

He's been struggling since high school. Myself and the rest of his family have known for about a year and a half. We've been enabling and rug sweeping. Wanting to believe his lies, feeling sorry for him etc.

About a month ago it all came to a head. He got pulled over and arrested while under the influence and with substances in the car. He's facing some serious charges. He got bailed out under the condition that he go straight to rehab. He's been there for 3 weeks and seems to be doing well.

My question is, what do we do next? He was living with my mom but I don't think it's a good idea for him to go back there. His dad won't let him go to his house, and I have a younger child so my house is not an option right now. There's a couple of sober living houses in town that I feel might be the best option, but I just don't know.

The sober living place wants money up front. We are financially strained at this point and he's got to have a job, but how quickly can that happen? Plus if he gets set up with a place to live and a job and then goes to court next month, he might still be going to jail.

My head is spinning. He needs therapy, meetings etc. Should all of this be his responsibility and I just stay out of it? I want to support, but also allow him to be an adult, responsible for himself.

Any advice or insight is appreciated

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u/Longjumping-Cry-1863 — 9 hours ago
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All I have is here

I have been lonely in this battle for a very long time and I have no one to talk to or have a support. So I need your support and compassionate understanding.

I am a daughter of an alcholic father and the familiar pattern recognition led me to an alcholic husband. I didn't see this coming, I had nevee thought that the person I was going to get married is also an alcoholic. It has been 7 years now. Until now we manages somehow, he had his lowedt lows and recoveries as well. Up until now I tried everything, getting angry, not talking, threating, loving, caring, supporting... And maybe more. I searched for cause to help him but now at this point even after we cleared many reasons he finds as a reason to drink, he still drinks and I'm so afraid of him hurting himself.

Today I came home after taking care of my mom from her operation, to my home that I was happy and excited to meet with my hustand again who was sober for 11 days and attending meetings. However yesterday I got a message that he said he was drinking again. I didn't get angry, I tried to show my love and my support, I said okay yesterday is over today is a new day. He was texting and he sound sober again. I really believed what I said to hım, really yesterday was over and today we will ve fine.

This belief was true until I come home. When I rang the doorbell, he didn't open the door, I thought maybe he is on balcony and couldn't hear. So I got inside with my keys. I put my bags and took a small peak to olur study room. First I couldn't understand what I was seeing. Then I looked carefully. My husband was on the floor and there was a pool of blood around his head. There is no way of explaining the feeling I had, terror got me. Then I checked on him, it wasn't something that I thought of as a reason, it wasn't from his head. As he was so drunk, he couldn't even ait and fell from his chair, hit his glasses on the floor, his glasses were broken and that broken glasses caused two small cuts near his eye. I relieveda while. Then I looked at the pool of blood, to have this kind of pool, he had to be lying there for a very long time because cuts were really small. I still can't understand how this happened. 20 minutes before I got home, I texted him, he said he is waiting for me and not to worry because I wouldn't find him as I had been worrying, he said. Then only 20 minutes passed and I found him worse than my worries.

At the back of my head I always worry about him falling from somewhere and he would hurt himself. Until now nothing like this scene happened but similiar situations. However these days I have been realizing that I will lose my husband really early in this life, not sure about reason maybe he will fall like this and hurt himself, maybe his body will react to alchol I don't know. But years ago I knew that I would lose my dad because of alcholism and now I have the same feeling for my husband.

I really love my husband, he is my best friend, my safe place, my best part of life. Other than dealing with alcholism, I have nothing on my husband. However this alcholism is killing him, and I can't do anything. I can't even reassure myself anymore. This feeling got so big that I have no idea how to deal with it.

If you kept reading until now, thank you so so much, I really needed to take this out of my chest.

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u/seydanoz — 10 hours ago
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I moved into the guest room this week

My Q is my husband. We’re about to hit 9 years of marriage. Drinking has always been present, and he’s always been a heavy daily drinker. I have my own issues with alcohol, but before we were together it was not centered in my life at all.

But it always had been for him, and I knew that but we were young and I think I thought he would grow out of it.

He’s always had a really bad temper. Tons of road rage, and if we got in a bad fight - which we used to have a lot of bad fights - he wouldn’t break things in front of me but after he’d storm out he’d like destroy a remote control or put a hole in the wall, throw something at the wall, etc.

Finally 2 years ago I’d been to enough therapy to realize I wasn’t going to put up with that behavior anymore, and told him if he didn’t get a handle on his anger and start going to therapy I would leave.

He didn’t start therapy, and things got a lot better. Not great, but better. He’s always been incredibly emotionally unavailable, and if he is he’ll be present for like a week and then it just slips away again. We’ve had tons of marriage counseling, lots of honest conversations where he sees where I’m coming from and promises he can get there.

This past month he’s punched a wall again, twice. The last time he put a hole through our bedroom wall because our power had gone out in that room and he was having a hard time figuring out how to fix it. He covered it up with paper and the next morning when I pulled the paper away and saw the hole, I just started moving all my stuff into the guest room.

He was so mad I did that, said “Seriously? Because I punched a wall?” Kept trying to downplay it, said he even paused and took a step to the left so he would hit drywall instead of plaster. He was almost bragging and sounded proud of himself but that made it worse for me. Said he’s “sorry it’s upsetting to me.”

After a few days I’m realizing I think alcohol is our biggest road block and that if he can’t make the choice to get sober I will be out.

I have felt horrible and also strong. I’ve been crying so much but also thinking about moving back into our room gives me an immediate full body panic, so I know I’m doing the right thing. But it’s really fucking hard.

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u/babybeetle_88812 — 13 hours ago
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Called cops on q, he was arrested and I got a restraining order. Feeling a lot of grief.

I really blame the disease. Hes amazing when hes not drinking. But then he will get paranoid and accuse me of sleeping with people and whatnot. I miss him. Next court date is August 20th.

He pushed me twice and broke my phone. Yet I dont feel like a victim. Maybe im an enabler. I just wish things were different and he could change and be sober.

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u/tupperwhore — 11 hours ago
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I am in an unfortunate situation

My Q ….well had a second medical incident from drinking on the 4th. He stumbled lost consciousness for a moment and fell. Two years ago he had a similar experience where he lost consciousness and dropped his phone and ended up in the hospital. I am in an unfortunate situation where I know basically he won’t stop drinking every night and will have to just witness the medical problems that accompany it. He is 59 years old and my uncle and it hurts to watch him destroy himself like this.

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u/Professional-Sea-506 — 12 hours ago
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Missing Q.

She is not the one. She is not for me. She never get over with her addiction. She broke my heart so deeply that I am still suffering. She is gone now. Girlfiend of a 1 year sober guy. She is on social media, time to time I check. She posts slutry pictures. Still inviting other men’s attention to her. That makes me want her and desire her. Im totally fine with her having a relationship but this social media posts gives me signs that she is open to other men too. It sometimes feels like just a sexual desire. I dont know if this part of the Al-anon or a personal problem but I would not text or contact with her. I am over. I am more peaceful. These feelings are temporary..

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u/Ok-Worldliness5481 — 9 hours ago
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I’m so tired of saying I don’t know what to do.

My Q and I have been together for going on 7 years. She’s an amazing person and I still love her deeply. Her addiction began with alcohol, where I found find beers all over the house. Just over and over and over again…no matter what I would do it would get worse. Finally she had a rock bottom moment, where the kids were involved and I had to remove myself and my daughter. After that, we worked through everything, she began therapy and we blossomed.

Blissful 5 months…until a box of kratom appeared on our kitchen counter. Like a huge box completely full. We had previously discussed Kratom agreed we didn’t want it in the house, and it’s not “sober” as we were both sober. I was supporting her journey. Well that very night she downed a can, hid it in the trash and the cycle returned. This time though has been so much worse. Cans upon cans of this stuff everywhere, even in her daughter’s drawers…my daughter found some while on a zoom call with her therapist…in which my Q said my daughter was misremembering.

Now that the kids are involved it just too emotional, I’m doing everything I can. Constantly trying to show support. She hit me with I’m going to across the country with my kids in a few days…deal with it. So my family had to cancel vacations, anniversary’s, plans, work accommodations to support her so she could go and help me with childcare.

We’ve had some beautiful talks, and we made a little progress. But yesterday, it finally happened. I found alcohol hidden..mixed with kratom. I begged her to tell me what to do, how I can support her. Then I found more empty Kratom cans in her purse. She spent July 4 at a party ignoring me, yelling at my daughter because she was just so
Upset. I had to call my ex wife to get her, and I left the house and stayed elsewhere once they were all back safe. Of course having her following me
Around the house screaming at me and belittling me as I’m packing.

One last time…I don’t know what to do.

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u/cuffsandsauce_04 — 12 hours ago
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My Q instilled a lot of shame in me

So, I let my ex back into my life briefly. I had gone no contact and she ended up coming to my apartment drunk as can be saying she can’t live without me. She’s married now so it all felt strange to me to have her say that.

I agreed to meet up with her to hang out. We tried talking about things that happened in the relationship but she just deflected and blamed me. DARVO is her tactic of choice.

Anyway, I had developed a habit of incessantly messaging her to talk about my feelings. She called me toxic and said I can’t handle my emotions well. My trauma therapist said desperately trying to communicate with an abuser is the result of years of bread-crumbing, invalidation, and tactics like DARVO. I understand that’s probably true but I still feel ashamed.

What’s even more shame inducing is that I went no contact again recently and had a bad trauma response where I reached out to her and she ignored me. Talk about embarrassing and debilitating. I’m back to no contact now.

I feel like she is a hypocrite for saying I’m toxic and can’t handle my emotions when she’s destroyed almost every connection she’s had and lives with a bottle to her face.

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u/VanillaChaiLover — 13 hours ago