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The Ur-Didact already doesn't hold humanity in the highest regard so what would happen if he met what was essentially their stronger edgier cousins?

This might seem like an out-of-nowhere comparison, but I feel like these two share a good bit in common.

• They're both protagonists with a penchant for goofing off and generally being over the top.
• Both had mothers who sacrificed themselves due to an attack caused by past animosity. (Eva sacrificing herself to save Dante from a group of demons who attacked the Sparda household by Mundus as payback for Sparda's betrayal. Longclaw sacrificing herself to save Sonic from a group of Echidnas)
• Both of them put a lot of personal stock into their family. (Sonic values his connections to Tom, Maddie, Tails, and Knuckles while Dante views his connection with his family as his main source of personal strength.)
• Both Sonic and Dante struggle with the social burdens of the power granted to them. (Sonic felt he needed to be isolated from everyone because he feared his power being used for evil purposes. Dante loathes his demonic heritage, and he deliberately isolates himself from others out of fear that his demonic side will hurt them.)
• Both have a habit of making friends out of former enemies. (Knuckles and Shadow for Sonic. Lady, Trish, and Nero for Dante.)
• Both of them, despite their goofy nature, tend to get serious when someone they care about gets hurt or seemingly killed. (Sonic going into a murderous rage after Shadow nearly killed Tom. Dante tapped into his rage after seeing Mundus seemingly kill Trish.)

Sorry for the TedTalk but I feel like this illustrates my point.

Basically, the events of Sonic Mania's true ending result in Eggman defeating both Sonic and Heavy King, capturing the former, and gaining both the Chaos Emeralds and the Phantom Ruby. Would the Classic cast be able to resist the Eggman Empire as effectively as the Modern cast did? Would Eggman's rule be maintained here or would he still fail? How would Eggman's early takeover affect the rest of the Sonic Timeline?

Because at least Cranston had good material to work with and his character was well written. Bernie Hayes is annoying and insufferable and sucks the life out of any scene he’s in and I cannot stress enough that it’s not Tyree Henry’s fault. He’s great in TFOne, Spiderverse, and in Bullet Train where he actually plays a funny comedic relief character. The fault lies purely with the director and writers for making such a bad character that allows none of Henry’s talents as an actor to shine through.

As we all know, the Knuckles Clan fell by the hands of Perfect Chaos due to Pachacamac's massacre of the Chao which Chaos called friends. Due to the Echidna Clan's destruction, Knuckles would become the last of his kind thousands of years later. But what if the Knuckles Clan had never fallen? In my view, there are two ways to go about this:

1. Chaos never mutates and as a result, Pachacamac gains access to both the Chaos Emeralds and the Master Emerald. I discuss this idea in more depth in my What if the Ancients never brought the Chaos Emeralds to Earth post, but the TLDR version is that while the Knuckles Clan would've become an Echidna Empire but like all Empires, it wouldn't have lasted long. Its downfall could be due to any number of factors (such as the Master Emerald being broken, the Phantom Ruby cutting off the M.E's power from the Echidna's, or Emerl being created and destroying the Empire along with everything else) The biggest effect here would be that the Echidna's would survive into the current era and Knuckles wouldn't be the last of his kind nor the Master Emerald's guardian.
2. Chaos mutates but is present for the initial confrontation between Tikal and Pachacamac. When Pachacamac knocks Tikal away and attempts to kill the Chao and take the Master Emerald, Chaos acts immediately and kills Pachacamac and only Pachacamac before he can reach the Altar and before Chaos can become Perfect. Tikal would be horrified by the death of her father and would lash out at Chaos. Chaos being overcome with regret over having inadvertently hurt his friend would seal himself away willingly within the Master Emerald. In the aftermath, Angel Island still rises into the sky but there would be far more many Echidnas living upon it by the modern day.

In either case, how does the Sonic timeline change?

I've had this idea for a while now, but I've always found it peculiar that while Mephiles is referred to as the cunning mind of Solaris, Iblis is often referred to as the 'body'. I've always found this terminology to be a bit strange, but this sparked an idea within me: What if we took this phrasing a bit more literally?

Now in order to fully elaborate on this idea, I'll need to explain my idea for Soleanna in my hypothetical Sonic 06 rewrite. Instead of being a presently existing nation within Sonic's World, Soleanna would be a sort of Sonic World-Equivalent of Atlantis. A supposedly mythological civilization which was destroyed in the ancient past by some sort of calamity, that calamity being Solaris. During the ancient past, the Soleannan's attempted to use the Chaos Emeralds to open gateways between dimensions only for their first experiment to bring Solaris to their dimension.

Solaris, in my rewrite, would be a Unicron-like entity who consumes realities one after another before moving on to the next. After laying waste to the city of Soleanna, the remaining Soleannan's would use some sort of weapon powered by the Chaos Emeralds against Solaris. It would work and Solaris would be decapitated. However, an important bit about Solaris is that as a god, he can't be killed through conventional means i.e. the Chaos Emeralds.

As a result, instead of the decapitation killing Solaris, it instead splits him into two entities. The severed head becomes Mephiles while the headless body becomes Iblis. The two wreak some more havoc and are eventually defeated with Iblis specifically being split into fragments that are sealed away within various temples across the world.

What do you think of my idea? Do you have your own ideas for how you would rewrite Solaris, Soleanna, their backstories and overall role in the story proper? Be sure to let me know.

Whether for a game or a comic or anything else, what would the story of the crossover between these two icons of gaming look like?

Now obviously I didn't get everything right, Nostradamus, I am not, but I did manage to predict:

• Shadow would injure Tom to the point of near death.
• Sonic would seek out revenge on Shadow for this only to realize it wasn't the way.
• Gerald being more directly villainous than his game counterpart.
• And a post credits scene teasing Metal Sonic.

Unfortunately, I deleted it a long while ago and I can't recall every detail perfectly, but I'd say I did a pretty good job in regard to predicting what plot points were gonna happen.

Do you agree or disagree? Why?

For me, I don't really think it matters if GEMSTONE is Junior or not since the plot of the shorts don't really change one way or another from that information. On the other hand, I do like to think that GEMSTONE and Junior are the same person since nicely builds off from the ending of vs Destoroyah.