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I was just thinking about how the US was always a difficult place to invade due to its isolation and geography; but let’s assume all the time paradoxes and spatial issues of a 20th century America existing with modern US are magically handwaved

1920s US is fully defense-lusted

Modern US win condition is forcing 20th century US into an unconditional surrender through the invasion

Round 1: Modern US Army vs 20th Century US Army (only 20th century can conscript)

Round 2: Modern vs 20th century (both can conscript)

Bonus Round: Full scale invasion to the capitol (likely impossible, so Modern US is allowed to use WMDs)

No nukes allowed for R1 and R2

Could they do it?

Also for a bonus round: what would happen if this was 1942 US or later? When does Modern US get beaten in this scenario?

The US military cannot use nukes

MGRR Raiden appears on US soil and the US responds with a full military joint operation assault against Raiden

How long could they hold him off?

Let’s assume Raiden can replenish his energy with vehicles instead of the spinal fluids like in the game; otherwise he’d run out of energy eventually

How does it play out?

Win Condition: US military is able to disable Raiden OR, Raiden is able to force a surrender/disappear for at least a week before the US Military moves on

In the last thread, I asked this question with Adam Smasher, and it looks like he’d get destroyed really easily.

The character you choose doesn’t have to outright force a surrender from the US Military, they just have to hold their ground long enough for the US Military to change tactics into negotiation or just give up their hunt

Could anyone do it?

Round 1: the US Military has no prep time

Round 2: The US Military has a week of prep time, but WMDs are off the table; Adam Smasher gets unlimited battery and resources needed to run

Could they do it?

Okay, okay, think about this for a second: The Jedi constantly fight heavily armored Battle Droids and Droidekas that are equipped with advanced, thick space alloy composites that can easily endure heat far better than what we would have in real life

The Jedi with their Lightsaber can just slice these things without any problems; absolutely zero molten metal debris getting in their way.

So tell me why people keep bringing up that a Jedi can be countered by bullets “because the bullet would melt into molten debris when hit with the Lightsaber instead of bouncing off like Blaster bolts”

Now, if you know how bullets work, you’ll know a bullet is made of Lead inside a Brass jacket. And one thing Lead and Brass are very bad at— is surviving high temperatures. Regular Steel that we have today has a melting point more than double that of Brass or Lead; yet we see Lightsabers instantly vaporize things with far, far greater heat resistance than modern steel

So what does that tell you? It tells you that when this moron using absolutely primitive firearm technology shoots at a Jedi; their bullet is just going to be instantly vaporized by the lightsaber. No molten metal, nothing. Just absolutely trivial, ancient technology. It’d be like when you put cotton candy in water, the thing just disappears without a trace

I think it’s absurd how popular this take has gotten. If a tiny lead and brass bullet would really cause that much trouble for a Lightsaber; then realistically we would see Jedi struggle with molten debris from slicing blast doors and Battle Droids that are significantly thicker and more durable than any bullet that exists

Okay, okay, think about this for a second: The Jedi constantly fight heavily armored Battle Droids and Droidekas that are equipped with advanced, thick space alloy composites that can easily endure heat far better than what we would have in real life

The Jedi with their Lightsaber can just slice these things without any problems; absolutely zero molten metal debris getting in their way.

So tell me why people keep bringing up that a Jedi can be countered by bullets “because the bullet would melt into molten debris when hit with the Lightsaber instead of bouncing off like Blaster bolts”

Now, if you know how bullets work, you’ll know a bullet is made of Lead inside a Brass jacket. And one thing Lead and Brass are very bad at— is surviving high temperatures. Regular Steel that we have today has a melting point more than double that of Brass or Lead; yet we see Lightsabers instantly vaporize things with far, far greater heat resistance than modern steel

So what does that tell you? It tells you that when this moron using absolutely primitive firearm technology shoots at a Jedi; their bullet is just going to be instantly vaporized by the lightsaber. No molten metal, nothing. Just absolutely trivial, ancient technology. It’d be like when you put cotton candy in water, the thing just disappears without a trace

I think it’s absurd how popular this take has gotten. If a tiny lead and brass bullet would really cause that much trouble for a Lightsaber; then realistically we would see Jedi struggle with molten debris from slicing blast doors and Battle Droids that are significantly thicker and more durable than any bullet that exists