u/Right_Entertainer324

So, I've just discovered by buggering about that I can actually craft certain Amulets to ally with other Enclaves; I assume these work like the OG Syndicates where, if I ally to any other, any standing I gain with the Silent Roses I'll lose half as much with the Kith of Kings (my original Enclave).

Unless that's not the case, in which thank god. Because balancing out Red Veil and Steel Meridian with New Loka and The Perrin Sequence is a kind of torture I wouldn't wish on my worst enemy XD

The item works fine, it doesn't break her, but if you activate it and swap stances, the stance you swapped into will remain normal size and, when it wears off, renders that stance completely invisible.

And since it renders you invisible, it's very easy to exploit and is very easy to achieve, so would likely be considered a Lotus Sickle kind of bug. So until it's patched, I'd advise avoiding Dreamer's Idol or Avatar's Parashu (If you're building her for Strength, for some reason), as Hi-Rez might consider this abusing a bug.

It's not a complete invisibility, as the opposite stance will stay visible, and the affected stance still has magic effects underneath Hel and on her hands, but I still wouldn't risk trying this in an actual game.

Okay, coming back to this with some new info.

After trying to replicate the bug in Jungle Practise, it doesn't seem like it's something that can easily be replicated. It seems to have something to do with Hel's Stance Switch getting confused with the model sizings, so it's safe to assume a similar issue might exist with other Stance Switchers. I've only encountered it with Hel, but it's likely this issue could extend to non-Aspect Artio and Cu Chulainn, if they swap stances whilst enlarged by Dreamer's Idol or Avatar's Parashu.

To save this accidentally happening to you in an actual game, I'd still recommend not building either of these items on Hel, non-Aspect Artio and Cu Chulainn, just in case it's a wider issue with the Items themselves, and not just Hel. Especially since, given it's not something that can be easily recreated, you'd need to actually know how to trigger the bug to make it occur in a real game. If it happens accidentally, that's one thing, as it happened to me randomly in Jungle Practise, but I'd imagine Hi-Rez would be just as harsh on abusers of this bug with Dreamer's Idol as they were Lotus Sickle, if someone finds out how to get it to trigger on command. So, don't try and replicate this outside of Jungle Practise, for your own sakes XD And if you do manage to get it to trigger, drop a screenshot of it here for the devs.

- Give it its own Shop Tab. Given not every item is exclusively offensive, defensive or hybrid, it's a bit of a pain needing to search around the Shop.

- Make it viewable with God Stats. Given how impactful it can actually be, much like Anti Heal was in Smite 1, it should be visible to all players so people who people are building it. Especially since it applies much more widely than its general use.

- Simplify it. Much like how 1 Dampening/Plating is equal to 1% Dampening/Plating, do a similar thing with Heal/Shield power. Give it a simpler name (I.E: Wisdom or Faith), and change the item values to a flat number. So, for example, Chandra's Grace goes from having 20% Healing and Shielding Power to 20 Faith. Means the exact same thing, but is much easier to read and understand on a whim. Which links back to having its own Store Tab, being under Wisdom or Faith. It's not a main stat every God will want, so it doesn't need to have a separate addon added to basic God Information like Protections, Intelligence or Strength. All it does is make it easier to search for and understand.

Hecate 3 at base apply a 350 Health Magic Shield at Max Rank.

With Chandra's Grace, it also applies a 350 Health Magic Shield.

Intended feature, or a bug? Discuss.

^(Also, can we please just call it Wisdom or Faith? Healing and Shielding Power is such a mouthful)

So, I'm doing a sort of rp build with my Knight of Idus and Heavy Knight, with the idea that the characters are mirror twins, which means that one is left handed and one is right handed. As I plan on using a Shield with the Heavy Knight, that means my Idus Knight has become the leftie, using his LGS in his left hand, not his right.

And that's obviously come with it's own unique quirks, as it means any Ashes of War I want to use have to be on my right hand weapon, as the game prefers the right hand weapon's Ash of War, if it's not a Parry or a Shield Ash. My Idus Knight, somehow, ended up as an Arcane build using Poison Moth Flight, which I've had slotted on an 'off hand' Rapier, as I don't want the powerstance LGS moveset, given it's more right handed emphasis. But I'm now wondering if I should go and upgrade said Rapier, as the only real reasons I'm using it are for the Poison pop and the occasional crit, not that I'm expecting to be stance breaking much, as a left handed weapon means no heavy attacks. But I have 0 clue if upgrading the Rapier will actually boost Poison Moth Flight's damage, or if it's purely based on the Poison itself.

I've been buggering about with Echo and actually found some pretty cool interactions.

There's a small handful of abilities that are triggered by Basic Attacks, but are classified as Ability Damage, which allows them to Echo, when you'd normally not really expect it to. So far, I've found this for:

- Scylla's built in Poly on her AO3

- Merlin's Passive

- Morgana's AO3 explosions, AO1's Clones (Specifically when proccing her 3) and Aspect AO3

- Ra's AO2 Projectiles

- Danzaburo's built in Poly on his AO3. In this case, it's actually counted as an Auto Attack and Ability, so it can Echo, Crit and proc Poly/Hydra's on top of his buffed Auto

- Medusa's AO1 Auto Attacks and Poison dot

So, remember how they said they wanted Hybrid scalers to be more like Tsukuyomi, and that how his scaling works is kinda how they want Hybrid Scalers to work? I'm gonna try that with Medusa. And maybe some others. So, if anyone from Hi-Rez sees this, then hey, you've got free ideas XD

Also, probably not balanced numbers. Just worry about the idea, that's the main point of this. And also assume she'd have balance adjustments to compensate for the power she'd be gaining, because changes like this would basically be a rework.

Medusa:

Viper Shot:

- If Intelligence is greater than Strength, Attack Speed gain is reduced, but Poison Damage over time is increased and lasts 2.5 seconds, up from 1.5 seconds. If Strength is greater than Intelligence, Attack Speed gain is increased and each shot deals additional Basic Attack Damage, but the Poison Damage is reduced.

Acid Spray:

- If Intelligence is greater than Strength, Acid Spray becomes Toxic Spray, dealing lower base damage, but gaining a slight boost to Intelligence Scaling and now dealing an additional 8/16/24/32/40 + 5% Intelligence Physical Damage over 4 seconds. If Strength is higher than Intelligence, Acid Spray no longer reduces enemy healing, but lowers their Physical Protections increases the damage the target takes by 5% for 5 seconds.

Lacerate:

- If Intelligence is higher than Strength, Lacerate's base damage is decreased, but now applies an additional 6/12/18/24/30 + 8% Intelligence Physical Damage over time. If Strength is higher than Intelligence, Lacerate deals increased damage and reduces the targets Physical Protections by 5/10/15/20/25 + 5% Strength. When Medusa hits an enemy God or a Statue, she lashes out in a circle, dealing damage and rooting around her. This portion of the attack does not reduce Protections.

Petrify:

- If Intelligence is higher than Strength, Petrify's cast time is reduced by 0.3 seconds, and enemies who are hit whilst not looking at Medusa take 10% increased damage from all sources. If Strength is higher than Intelligence, Petrify's base damage is increased and enemies who are Petrified take 10% more damage from Medusa.

So, chances are she'll be getting either an Enchanter Aspect, or a Bruiser Aspect, as Hel has historically had use in both Solo and Support. So, I'm gonna do both. And the Solo one is gonna be a bit more of a unique approach to Hel.

Also, it should go without saying, these are probably not balanced. It's just the idea I really care about.

Solo:

Hel: Aspect of Duality

Restoration no longer heals allies, but deals increased damage to enemy Gods and heals you; Decay deals less damage to enemy Gods and no longer explodes, but Stuns Minions and enemy Gods. Repulse now deals damage based on your Max Health, and knocks back enemies within 5m of you; Inspire's ally healing is reduced and no longer grants allies Attack Speed, but your Attack Speed gains are increased. Stance Change's cooldown is increased to 15 seconds and isn't affected by Cooldown Reduction, but swapping to Dark Stance grants you increased Attack Damage and swapping to Light Stance grants you a Health Shield and Attack Speed. You always gain half of your inactive Stance's passive benefit.

Support:

Hel: Aspect of Inspiration

Restoration's damage is reduced, but it's healing is increased and now bounces to the closest ally, healing for 50% of the initial heal; Decay's damage is reduced, but the explosion area is larger and reduces enemy Shields and applies Anti Heal. Hinder's slow is increased and now reduces both Physical and Magical Protections; Cleanse grants allies increased Protections, as well as healing them, if a CC effect is removed. Repulse knocks enemies within 8m away from Hel, but loses all Intelligence scaling; Inspire knocks up enemies within 5m of Hel, and it's healing on minions is increased.