A lot of men enter relationships with women they’re not that attracted to or that into because society perceives single men as losers.

Women who choose to be single are celebrated as empowered. People talk about how they can travel, enjoy their freedom, focus on themselves, and do all these other things.

Men, on the other hand, are often seen as losers for being single. And if they claim to be happy alone, people are quick to assume they are lying and secretly want a girlfriend.

This is why so many men rush into relationships and even marriages with women they are not genuinely attracted to or do not actually want to be with, simply because society makes them feel like being single is a failure.

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u/Odd-Help6890 — 5 days ago

Women who say “all men are trash” are simply unable to attract high quality men.

Men will sometimes stay in relationships with women they aren’t genuinely invested in, stringing them along for years without ever fully committing only to meet someone else and decide to marry her after just three months of dating.

Men date women they are not that attracted and the same guy can treat one girl as a queen and another girl they are not into badly.

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u/Odd-Help6890 — 18 days ago

For those with DB pensions, how are you planning to retire before State Pension age?

Say you want to retire at 57 or 60.

Your DB pension is based on taking it at the scheme’s normal pension age, which could be 67. If you take it earlier, the actuarial reduction can be quite significant. In some schemes, such as the Local Government Pension Scheme, the reduction can be around 40%; which is not far off half your pension.

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u/Odd-Help6890 — 25 days ago

I actually love this post

Hopefully some of the men on the left and the women in the middle right are interacting regularly with each other lol

u/Odd-Help6890 — 1 month ago

I know this is a scam but how do they pull it off with people

Other redditor: Hey, can i ask you something real quick?

Me: sure

Other redditor: Sorry to bother you, but I wanted to ask if you share your Reddit account with anyone or if you've recently sent someone a link?

I just blocked the user because it seemed so suspicious.

But what exactly was their end game? Even if I had gone along with it, there’s no way I would have given them my account details, personal email address, or spoken to them on another platform like WhatsApp.

Why would they want with your reddit account anyway?

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u/Odd-Help6890 — 1 month ago

Why is the Black Pill the default in online spaces when it is so wrong?

These spaces claim that the only men who can have success with women are those who are purely genetically gifted. According to this view, you have to be tall and handsome. By “handsome,” they mean having a sharp jawline, perfect facial thirds, excellent facial harmony, a full head of hair, and, of course, low body fat. Otherwise, you are supposedly destined to be alone. These men are known as “moggors.” Even money and status supposedly do not matter or help with success with women.

I find this hard to believe because the overwhelming majority of relationships I see, even among the younger adult population aged 22 to 35, involve men who have at least three out of the four traits I mentioned: being out of shape, having belly fat, having visible hair loss, and being of average height. In all the spaces I have been in, university, the gym, various workplace offices, sports clubs, and even my experience in high school, not even 10% of the men I knew who were in relationships were “moggors.” I also see this at my local preschool, where most of the men I see collecting their children are overweight to varying degrees and are balding.

There is also an idea in these spaces that men literally have no standards and will commit to any girl who shows interest. Most men I knew who claimed to be single and found it “impossible to date” were actually getting attention from women. They simply weren’t interested in dating the women they were attracting.

One of my mates is severely obese, I mean around 500 lbs. Even he was matching with quite a few overweight women on dating apps who were still much slimmer than he was, and they wanted to meet up. He just flat out refused every time, which I found pretty funny.

I knew an Irish guy who had basically given up on dating. One of our friends married a woman from Thailand, and another married a woman from China. He was getting a lot of attention from women from these types of countries, but he said he simply wasn’t attracted to women from those regions and would rather stay single.

When you try to debunk these ideas in online spaces, what makes them so difficult to argue against is that they have defeatism built into them. There is an ugly man with a pretty woman? Well, then he is rich and I am not, so I can’t do it like him. He is poor? Then he isn’t autistic like I am, so I can’t do it like him. And so on. You can do this forever, pretty much. If even that fails, you can simply say that the relationship is a freak accident and use that as an excuse for why it won’t happen to you.

The black pill is not an actual ideology or position; it is a neurosis that likely belongs on the depressive spectrum. I have dysthymia, and I have experienced the belief in several different “black pills” about topics completely unrelated to dating. These beliefs are pathological and therefore not rational.

They actually advise men that they should not even bother trying to pursue women unless they are a “mogger.” From seeing this from the outside, it is almost as though the men in these spaces are trying to mateguard women. They seem to love the idea that men are helpless and should give up on life, and there is almost a fetishistic element to it.

Interestingly, this is also a form of gaslighting toward women who have struggled to find a long term partner. I knew a lot of women who struggled with this.

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u/Odd-Help6890 — 2 months ago

The Black pill is so wrong and I can believe it is the default in a lot of online spaces

These spaces claim that the only men who can have success with women are those who are purely genetically gifted. According to this view, you have to be tall and handsome. By “handsome,” they mean having a sharp jawline, perfect facial thirds, excellent facial harmony, a full head of hair, and, of course, low body fat. Otherwise, you are supposedly destined to be alone. These men are known as “moggors.” Even money and status supposedly do not matter or help with success with women.

I find this hard to believe because the overwhelming majority of relationships I see, even among the younger adult population aged 22 to 35, involve men who have at least three out of the four traits I mentioned: being out of shape, having belly fat, having visible hair loss, and being of average height. In all the spaces I have been in, university, the gym, various workplace offices, sports clubs, and even my experience in high school, not even 10% of the men I knew who were in relationships were “moggors.” I also see this at my local preschool, where most of the men I see collecting their children are overweight to varying degrees and are balding.

There is also an idea in these spaces that men literally have no standards and will commit to any girl who shows interest. Most men I knew who claimed to be single and found it “impossible to date” were actually getting attention from women. They simply weren’t interested in dating the women they were attracting.

One of my mates is severely obese, I mean around 500 lbs. Even he was matching with quite a few overweight women on dating apps who were still much slimmer than he was, and they wanted to meet up. He just flat out refused every time, which I found pretty funny.

I knew an Irish guy who had basically given up on dating. One of our friends married a woman from Thailand, and another married a woman from China. He was getting a lot of attention from women from these types of countries, but he said he simply wasn’t attracted to women from those regions and would rather stay single.

When you try to debunk these ideas in online spaces, what makes them so difficult to argue against is that they have defeatism built into them. There is an ugly man with a pretty woman? Well, then he is rich and I am not, so I can’t do it like him. He is poor? Then he isn’t autistic like I am, so I can’t do it like him. And so on. You can do this forever, pretty much. If even that fails, you can simply say that the relationship is a freak accident and use that as an excuse for why it won’t happen to you.

The black pill is not an actual ideology or position; it is a neurosis that likely belongs on the depressive spectrum. I have dysthymia, and I have experienced the belief in several different “black pills” about topics completely unrelated to dating. These beliefs are pathological and therefore not rational.

They actually advise men that they should not even bother trying to pursue women unless they are a “mogger.” From seeing this from the outside, it is almost as though the men in these spaces are trying to mateguard women. They seem to love the idea that men are helpless and should give up on life, and there is almost a fetishistic element to it.

Interestingly, this is also a form of gaslighting toward women who have struggled to find a long term partner. I knew a lot of women who struggled with this.

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u/Odd-Help6890 — 2 months ago

Why the Defeatism in Dating Is So Wrong

These spaces claim that the only men who can have success with women are those who are purely genetically gifted. According to this view, you have to be tall and handsome. By “handsome,” they mean having a sharp jawline, perfect facial thirds, excellent facial harmony, a full head of hair, and, of course, low body fat. Otherwise, you are supposedly destined to be alone. These men are known as “moggors.” Even money and status supposedly do not matter or help with success with women.

I find this hard to believe because the overwhelming majority of relationships I see, even among the younger adult population aged 22 to 35, involve men who have at least three out of the four traits I mentioned: being out of shape, having belly fat, having visible hair loss, and being of average height. In all the spaces I have been in, university, the gym, various workplace offices, sports clubs, and even my experience in high school, not even 10% of the men I knew who were in relationships were “moggors.” I also see this at my local preschool, where most of the men I see collecting their children are overweight to varying degrees and are balding.

There is also an idea in these spaces that men literally have no standards and will commit to any girl who shows interest. Most men I knew who claimed to be single and found it “impossible to date” were actually getting attention from women. They simply weren’t interested in dating the women they were attracting.

One of my mates is severely obese, I mean around 500 lbs. Even he was matching with quite a few overweight women on dating apps who were still much slimmer than he was, and they wanted to meet up. He just flat out refused every time, which I found pretty funny.

I knew an Irish guy who had basically given up on dating. One of our friends married a woman from Thailand, and another married a woman from China. He was getting a lot of attention from women from these types of countries, but he said he simply wasn’t attracted to women from those regions and would rather stay single.

When you try to debunk these ideas in online spaces, what makes them so difficult to argue against is that they have defeatism built into them. There is an ugly man with a pretty woman? Well, then he is rich and I am not, so I can’t do it like him. He is poor? Then he isn’t autistic like I am, so I can’t do it like him. And so on. You can do this forever, pretty much. If even that fails, you can simply say that the relationship is a freak accident and use that as an excuse for why it won’t happen to you.

The black pill is not an actual ideology or position; it is a neurosis that likely belongs on the depressive spectrum. I have dysthymia, and I have experienced the belief in several different “black pills” about topics completely unrelated to dating. These beliefs are pathological and therefore not rational.

They actually advise men that they should not even bother trying to pursue women unless they are a “mogger.” From seeing this from the outside, it is almost as though the men in these spaces are trying to mateguard women. They seem to love the idea that men are helpless and should give up on life, and there is almost a fetishistic element to it.

Interestingly, this is also a form of gaslighting toward women who have struggled to find a long term partner. I knew a lot of women who struggled with this.

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u/Odd-Help6890 — 2 months ago

Why the Defeatism in Dating Is So Wrong

These spaces claim that the only men who can have success with women are those who are purely genetically gifted. According to this view, you have to be tall and handsome. By “handsome,” they mean having a sharp jawline, perfect facial thirds, excellent facial harmony, a full head of hair, and, of course, low body fat. Otherwise, you are supposedly destined to be alone. These men are known as “moggors.” Even money and status supposedly do not matter or help with success with women.

I find this hard to believe because the overwhelming majority of relationships I see, even among the younger adult population aged 22 to 35, involve men who have at least three out of the four traits I mentioned: being out of shape, having belly fat, having visible hair loss, and being of average height. In all the spaces I have been in, university, the gym, various workplace offices, sports clubs, and even my experience in high school, not even 10% of the men I knew who were in relationships were “moggors.” I also see this at my local preschool, where most of the men I see collecting their children are overweight to varying degrees and are balding.

There is also an idea in these spaces that men literally have no standards and will commit to any girl who shows interest. Most men I knew who claimed to be single and found it “impossible to date” were actually getting attention from women. They simply weren’t interested in dating the women they were attracting.

One of my mates is severely obese, I mean around 500 lbs. Even he was matching with quite a few overweight women on dating apps who were still much slimmer than he was, and they wanted to meet up. He just flat out refused every time, which I found pretty funny.

I knew an Irish guy who had basically given up on dating. One of our friends married a woman from Thailand, and another married a woman from China. He was getting a lot of attention from women from these types of countries, but he said he simply wasn’t attracted to women from those regions and would rather stay single.

When you try to debunk these ideas in online spaces, what makes them so difficult to argue against is that they have defeatism built into them. There is an ugly man with a pretty woman? Well, then he is rich and I am not, so I can’t do it like him. He is poor? Then he isn’t autistic like I am, so I can’t do it like him. And so on. You can do this forever, pretty much. If even that fails, you can simply say that the relationship is a freak accident and use that as an excuse for why it won’t happen to you.

The black pill is not an actual ideology or position; it is a neurosis that likely belongs on the depressive spectrum. I have dysthymia, and I have experienced the belief in several different “black pills” about topics completely unrelated to dating. These beliefs are pathological and therefore not rational.

They actually advise men that they should not even bother trying to pursue women unless they are a “mogger.” From seeing this from the outside, it is almost as though the men in these spaces are trying to mateguard women. They seem to love the idea that men are helpless and should give up on life, and there is almost a fetishistic element to it.

Interestingly, this is also a form of gaslighting toward women who have struggled to find a long term partner. I knew a lot of women who struggled with this.

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u/Odd-Help6890 — 2 months ago

Where did the Republic get the “new” spice in Season 1, Episode 12?

I’m confused about the spice situation in Star Wars: The Clone Wars Season 1, Episode 12, “The Gungan General.”

The original spice shipment is taken by Hondo and his pirates, but later the Republic seems to have spice available for the ransom/deal involving Dooku and Obi-Wan.

Where did the Republic get this second supply of spice?

Is it ever explained in the episode or elsewhere in The Clone Wars, or are we just supposed to assume the Republic had another supply available?

I’ve watched the episode a couple of times and can’t figure out where the replacement spice came from. Am I missing a scene?

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u/Odd-Help6890 — 2 months ago

According to incel logic women that look like would never go for men that look like this

But the black pill (Rehab room and Wheat Waffles) says even mid white chicks only want white chads. This should not be happening.

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u/Odd-Help6890 — 2 months ago

Why do so many Indian men on reddit claim Indian women always go for white guys?

I’ve lost count of how many comments I’ve seen across thread after thread started by Indian men claiming that Indian women always go for white men, despite there being little to no evidence to support that claim.

Most interracial marriage statistics actually suggest that Indian men marry outside their ethnicity at similar or even higher rates. While some niche datasets do show Indian women marrying out at slightly higher rates, the overall difference does not appear to be particularly significant.

More broadly, Indian people have one of the lower rates of marrying outside their ethnicity compared with many other groups.

There are also people who argue that some Indian men deliberately fuel gender wars online. I’ve even seen claims that subreddits such as r/SplendidaBrown are largely Indian men role playing as Indian women in order to create the impression that Indian women idolize or exclusively prefer white men. I’m not saying that claim is true, but it’s something I’ve seen people speculate about and thought was worth mentioning.

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u/Odd-Help6890 — 2 months ago

Is the Black Pill an ideology, or a psychological pattern?

The reason the Black Pill is so difficult to argue against is that it has defeatism built into it.

You point out an unattractive man with an attractive woman? “He’s rich, so that doesn’t apply to me.” He’s poor? “He isn’t autistic like I am.” He has the same disadvantages? “He’s an exception.” And if every other explanation fails, the relationship can simply be dismissed as a “freak accident.”

You can do this indefinitely. Every counterexample can be explained away while the conclusion remains unchanged: “It might happen to other people, but it won't happen to me.”

This is why I don't think the Black Pill is really an ideology or coherent position. I think it is a neurosis that likely belongs on the depressive spectrum. I have dysthymia, and I've experienced similar “blackpills” about subjects completely unrelated to dating. When you're depressed, it's possible to develop extremely convincing beliefs that everything is hopeless, and then selectively interpret evidence to reinforce them.

That doesn't mean every observation made by Black Pillers is necessarily false. Some claims about attractiveness, dating, and social dynamics may have genuine merit. The problem is when the worldview becomes unfalsifiable when no possible counterexample can ever count against it.

If a belief can explain away every piece of evidence that contradicts it, in what sense is it still a rational position?

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u/Odd-Help6890 — 2 months ago

This subreddit underestimates how easy it can be for White men to attract women abroad.

In countries such as the Philippines, Thailand, India, Sri Lanka, Vietnam, China, sub-Saharan Africa, and so on, you could be a white dude who is 5'3", balding, scrawny, or obese, working a low-status job in your home country, and still have a line of women happy to date you.

Even in wealthier countries like Taiwan, South Korea, and Japan, where it can be a little harder, there are still plenty of women who seem genuinely obsessed with white men. My co worker is a fat, modest height, poorly groomed Scottish guy, and he still managed to meet his wife while spending a year in Japan.

I’ve also seen plenty of white guys say that dating is impossible for them and that they’ve essentially given up on finding someone, with some claiming that they have no other option because they can’t attract white women but can get women from other countries who they refuse to date.

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u/Odd-Help6890 — 2 months ago

Can you have a universe where space and time are not linked?

How different would that universe would look from the prospective of humans living there.

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u/Odd-Help6890 — 2 months ago

Why does this forum get compared to r/SplendidaBrown?

When people criticise r/SplendidaBrown, some defend it by pointing out that there is supposedly a male equivalent, r/SouthAsianMasculinity. But the two subreddits are fundamentally different.

On r/SplendidaBrown, South Asian women who date South Asian men are often portrayed negatively, while relationships with non South Asian men, particularly white men, are placed on a pedestal. There also seems to be a strong fascination with interracial dating, especially with white men and Korean men.

By contrast, on r/SouthAsianMasculinity, men expressing a preference for Indian women is generally treated as normal, while preferences for white women can actually be criticised or downvoted.

What makes r/SplendidaBrown particularly strange is the hostility toward Indian men and the tendency to promote the idea that non Indian men are inherently better. The subreddit also frequently posts memes and content celebrating dating outside the community, particularly with white men.

If the equivalent content were posted here, such as memes celebrating Indian men dating white women, I suspect it would be heavily downvoted and the comments would be far more critical.

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u/Odd-Help6890 — 2 months ago