u/Wooden-Variety175

Rewriting Twilight Syndrome Murder Party as it was shown in the Despair Arc Anime

I won't try to hide it or deny it. I think DR3 Despair is one of the most disappointing pieces of supplementary material ever made for a series that I have seen. The brainwashing especially is my biggest issue as it removes character agency and decreases the overall relatability of the series, but that's a rant for another day. While the tragedy and Junko were big disappointments the way TSMP and Hajime were handled were the biggest disappointments to me so I thought of how I, would rewrite it.

Let's get something straight. I'm sorry Chiaki fans but she's got to go. I was deeply shocked when I watched the anime and saw that Girl E or Sato was not part of Class 77-B. I think that based on where the murder takes place that being the music room, Girl E was always meant to be the 16th member of the class. So either Ryota or Chiaki has to go and I never liked the decision to make Chiaki real but I digress. This is an important set up piece. Sato being in the class makes her friendship with Mahiru and the other 3 girls (who weren't even shown during the TSMP part of the anime have a real connection) The first section of this revised TSMP in the anime would thus be focused on showing the 5 girls and their friendship, as well as introducing Natsumi and showing her jealousy of them.

Now onto Hajime. The biggest issue with Hajime in despair is that I don't understand why he went through with the Kamakura project. In GD we are told he went through with it because of extreme loneliness, low self esteem, and his talent worship. Yet, Chisa, Chiaki, Natsumi, and Tengan all try to cheer him up and tell him not to go through with it, then someone he met 10 minutes ago dies and he goes eh sure. This is terrible writing. Show Hajime being completely isolated, no Chiaki, no Chisa, nobody should be talking to him, his existence should barely be acknowledged by other characters in the show.

And then in comes Natsumi. She enrolls in the reserve course desperate to transfer to the main course and prove her worth against her brother, just as shown in the anime. We see her stalking Mahiru and Sato and slowly develop her plan to kill Mahiru and take her place. Then Hajime confronts her and the two start to bond with each other over their shared inadequacies. They both start to feel like their lack of talent doesn't matter. That they finally have someone who understands them, and both of them start to abandon their extreme plans to gain talent. The two then decide to even go on a date! How sweet.

Fuyuhiko finds Natsumi changing for her date and she excitedly tells him about it. She leaves and Fuyuhiko being the protective brother that he is sends Peko to watch over her and make sure everything goes alright. The date is great, the two have a lot of fun and the scene shifts to them having lunch together. During this lunch talk Hajime reveals to her the details of the kamakura project and asks her opinion on it. She gets mad at him for even considering such a drastic shortcut to get talent, something that annoys Hajime. He retorts that she was also planning to take a shortcut, by killing Mahiru. Natsumi gets mad and storms off to the bathroom. Peko's character flaw shown in GD shines through. She thinks that Fuyuhiko would have wanted her to do everything to keep this nobody from dating his sister, especially after what she just saw. So, she intervenes and threatens Hajime, who actually brushes off the threats, saying that it's not the gang's choice who Natsumi hangs out with. Peko then digs deep into him and his insecurities. She grills him and asks if he's really worthy of someone like Natsumi, someone who is destined to play a big role in their organization, and is overflowing with talent and skill. Peko ends her speech by saying that Natsumi would already be in the main class if someone like Hajime wasn't holding her back.

Natsumi returns and apologizes to Hajime for storming off. She reflects on her own intrusive thoughts and agrees with him that it was a bad idea. Hajime cuts her off and says they can't see eachother anymore. Telling her that he's holding her back, that someone like her deserves to be in the main class, and that talent really is everything. After Hajime leaves, Natsumi spots Peko, and this is the real thing that pushes her into despair. Natsumi believes that Fuyuhiko doesn't think she's good enough to make her own decisions, and only by getting into the main class will she proof her own worth. Now the events of TSMP play out as shown to us in the game but, you know actually show them instead of just doing those stupid cuts and having fuyuhiko and Peko look a little angry after finding out the news.

This should be the driving point for several characters falling into despair. Fuyuhiko believes that it's his fault Natsumi was killed, if he hadn't pushed her so hard, she wouldn't have tried to kill Mahiru. Peko is overcome with shame and guilt, knowing that her interference caused Natsumi's actions, but is unable to admit any of this to Fuyuhiko. Mahiru is grieving that she couldn't protect Sato and now the 77-B reactions after TSMP should be more despairful as they are reacting to losing a fellow classmate. Finally, Hajime signs up for the Kamakura project having lost his only lifeline, the one person who could have kept him from despair, he blames himself for everything that happens and believes that he needs to gain talent in order to be someone.

I thought of all of this in like 30 minutes while bored at work and think it's way more compelling and tragic than what we actually got. What do ya think? Do I need an ego check or do you agree this would've been a better direction for the story?

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u/Wooden-Variety175 — 2 hours ago

Tierlist for what I think everyone lives would have been like if they graduated hopes peaks without the tragedy.

I put Mukuro in idk because let's say for this alternate timeline junko gets caught before executing her plan by way of the towa foundation being discovered and she's charged and sentenced for conspiracy and terrorism.

But Mukuro manages to distance herself and spends her years at Hope's peak without junko's influence.

In this timeline if youre a mukuro x Makoto enjoyer then they get married and have 8 kids and lead happy lives doing whatever. Otherwise maybe she just goes back to combat? Or joins the military in an advisory role? Makoto marries sayaka and becomes a stay at home dad or he married Kyoko and gets like a boring office job or something.

I dont know if taka would get into politics or become a cop or be a normal office worker.

Oh and for those who dont know GTO is Great Teacher Onizuka you should read/watch it. I wouldnt be surprised if Onizuka was partly and inspiration for Mondo's character.

u/Wooden-Variety175 — 3 days ago

How do you name characters and come up with titles?

I get ideas like crazy i have tons of half finished works, a couple short finished vn scripts, and one rather large one that I'm waiting on feedback for.

Anyway, Ive always struggled with coming up with character names even though i am able to come up with characters themselves on a dime. For a while I would just give them place holder names. For my recent project the characters have specific talents/titles like america's finest mangaka, content creator, butcher. So, I just looked up famous people in that field and mashed the first and last names of two people together. Is that an acceptable way to name characters or are there better ways?

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u/Wooden-Variety175 — 3 days ago

Any good mystery vns?

Yo I'm a certified mystery game addict ive played over a hundred mystery games and im on the look out for more.

Ive played all of ace attorney, danganronpa, gnosia, fatal twelve, buried stars, raging loop, zero escape, root letter, famicom detective club, London detective mysteria, 13 sentinels, suhoshin, detective grimoire, detective ridelle, shinrai, aviary attorney, methods the detective competition, and Amelie.

As well as about another 50 games that aren't visual novels.

Also im aware of higurashi it's on my list but I dont particularly care for horror so recommendations lean just towards mystery/thriller would be great

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u/Wooden-Variety175 — 8 days ago

Tierlist on if I'd spend a night camping, alone, in the woods with them

Mahiru, Angie, Sonia and I probably still get eaten by bears.

Kyoko would save my ass though.

u/Wooden-Variety175 — 9 days ago

Writing a script for a visual novel is it funny or cringe?

Obviously I wasn't descriptive for the imagery like the body, or her falling on the floor because when it is finished they will have actual images attached to it.

Thank youuuuu

u/Wooden-Variety175 — 9 days ago

Heyy. Here's my tier list of who I'd invite to my birthday party.

I wouldn't be opposed to Toko joining on the ahem "Festivities".

u/Wooden-Variety175 — 10 days ago

Tier list of how good I think every character smells

Maybe we have lost the plot.

Edit: Ok. Alright. I forgot about Hiyoko's scene of her not showering cause of her kimono. I was rating her as growth spirt Hiyoko. Also that was one instance she didnt smell bad before that.

Yes ok Korekiyo should be higher I forgot he spends time on his makeup but his outfit also looks very sweaty.

Medicine smells bad idc what you say Mikan stinks.

Raw fish doesnt smell bad.

u/Wooden-Variety175 — 10 days ago

Tier list of what kind of drinker everyone would be

A lot of the girls are just coded to be the one night a year pass out drunks lol.

I imagine maki would only drink if she had to for an assignment.

u/Wooden-Variety175 — 10 days ago
▲ 32 r/GenZ

Why's this sub so filled with doomers?

Feels like every other post is about how bad the economy is, how there's no hope for our generation, everything is awful and will never get better like.

I spent half of last year unemployed and when I got my new job at the start of this year I had a 20k pay cut and went from being fully remote to in person everyday with an hour commute. Ive got no friends IRL, my only hobbies are writing, gaming, and cartoons. I dealt with a lot of mental health shit during last year but not once have I succumbed to doomer philosophy or succumb to despair.

I will not stop being silly, nor surrender my optimism and I think this sub needs to do some gratitude practice. Like things could be so much and I know that every generation goes through economic downturns and it'll get better eventually I mean you think those billionaires are really gonna let everything collapse to the point they lose all their money too? Absolutely not. Dont give into doomer philosophy! Time to get whimsical! Persevere and never give up!

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u/Wooden-Variety175 — 11 days ago