I think I’m ready but I wanna double check. I’m watched Ahsoka, Boba Fett, and all The Mandalorian. Is there anything else I need to watch before the film?

EDIT: Soz for the reposts. Reddit app was being unfriendly.

Heart Aria, Leader of Heart Melody

Howdy! I've been working on a project for quite some time that I feel would be of interest to this community. It's a multiversal epic set across a number of realms each with their own rules and magical systems, telling a story across a variety of mediums. Part of the focus of the project is a group of magical girls called Heart Melody and their fight against the invading hatred of demons as well as their sometimes ally most times rival dissonant discord. I would appreciate it if you check it out. It's still very much a work in progress, but I do have some stuff to share.

To start reading the story of Heart Melody, I suggest beginning at the origin story New Hearts and working forward from there. There's also a Characters page and a factions page where you can learn more about Heart Melody, though going to either of those first will spoil the narrative.

There's also tons more to explore on the site, so please look around. Thanks for your time and I hope you enjoy it!

P.S. Did I mention there's a whole other team of Magical Girls too?

Alulu, leader of Destiny's Penance

P.P.S. Also, I'm making a subreddit. r/CriosProject

Also tell me what kind of game it will be. Yes AA not AAA.

Spoilers for DQ7

Quick thoughts:

Boy some of those stories were sad. And the worst part was figuring out what was going to happen right before the game tells you. I don’t think I’ve say “oh no” this many times in a game before.

Keifer leaving was a less than pleasant surprise.
Orgodemir was not.
Keifer returning was a pleasant surprise.

Maribel really grew on me. I’m looking forward to meeting her again in Heroes 2.

I *really* like the post final battle world tour.

I think the fake out in the middle of the game was pretty good though I wasn’t really buying it. That fight was way too easy. Maybe if it had phases.

I lowkey loved Euphonia.

I do wish there were more outfits and I wish the vocation outfit changes from the 3DS version were retained.

I also hope that if Final Fantasy 6 ever gets remade it’s like this and not HD2D.

Lastly, I really enjoyed the concept of the game. I had no idea it was about time travel shenanigans and rebuilding a shattered world and that really appealed to me. It’s also been a while since I played a game that felt like a grand ole adventure without dire fate of the world stakes. Yes the fate of the world was on my shoulders but it never got oppressive, ya know? All in all a very fun experience.

Final save: Auster - Lv. 70 / 47:15 - completed 5/15/2026 at 2:20am

Next up Dragon Quest 3 HD2D. Just as soon as I clear these last five tablet pieces.

EDIT: Took 24 levels but I took out the superbosses. On to DQ3 HD2D

A number of games allow you to make a custom protagonist. Many times said custom character is either entirely mute or speaks a very limited number of lines, usually only in combat and never in cutscenes. When the character is voiced you usually have a set number of voices you can choose from and sometimes you can even pitch the voice up or down to make them more unique.

Here’s my concept: what if, in addition to the selectable voices, you could spend a few minutes reading a few lines of dialogue into a microphone to make a sound bank that the game would then use to synthesize your own voice for the character? Basically, make your self insert a real *self* insert.

Setting aside feasibility, would this type of vocal role play be something you would be interested in?

EDIT: Whoops! I left something out: you would also have vocal sliders to change pitch and speed to make it sound a little more unique.

This is every upcoming game that I know of that has explicitly stated Kingdom Hearts as an influence.

Luminous Nights

Release Date: TBD
Platforms: Steam, Switch, PlayStation, Xbox
Steam Playtest Available
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1949610/Luminous\_Nights/
Kickstarter Page (pre-launch): https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/yahyadanboos/luminous-nights
Created by u/YahyaDann

Duskfade

Release Date: 2026
Platforms: Steam, PlayStation, Xbox
Steam Demo Available
https://store.steampowered.com/app/2542020/Duskfade/
Website: https://weirdbeluga.com
Created by u/Duskfadegame

Twilight Requiem

Release Date: TBA
Platforms: Steam, Itch.io
Steam Demo Available
https://store.steampowered.com/app/3830080/Twilight\_Requiem/
Website: https://twilightrequiem.dev

Genokids

Release Date (early access): October 2, 2025
Platforms: Steam, Switch
Price: $19.99 USD
Steam Demo Available
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1239360/Genokids/
Website: https://genokids.com
Created by u/Nukefist

Eyes Of The Sky

Release Date: TBA
Platforms: Steam
Steam Playtest Upcoming
https://store.steampowered.com/app/3180280/Eyes\_Of\_The\_Sky/
Created by u/SilentGodot

Blood Crisis

Release Date: TBD
Platforms: itch.io
Demo available to $5 USD Patreon Members
https://pantrymoth.itch.io/blood-crisis
Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/BloodCrisis

Arbiter

Release Date: TBD
Demo Outdated and Removed
Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/arbitergame

Sword of Symphony

Release Date: TBD
Lots of interconnected side projects
Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/StephenDdungu

Aethercore

Release Date: TBD
Website: https://lanstrash.com/aethercore

Untitled Daikon Oni Game

Release Date: Unknown
Demo and Steam Page forthcoming
https://x.com/daikon\_oni/status/1952871671125385288

Cross Seekers

Release Date: Coming Soon
Currently Japanese Language Only
https://store.steampowered.com/app/2498800/Cross\_Seekers/

Astoria Legends: Red Moon

Release Date: TBD
Platforms: PC, Switch, Xbox
2D Sidescroller
Itch.io Demo Available
https://skyartxv.itch.io/astoria-legends
Created by u/SkyartXV

Alabaster Dawn

Release Date (early access): May 7, 2026
Platforms: Steam
Price: $24.99
Isometric
Steam Demo Available
https://store.steampowered.com/app/3110760/Alabaster\_Dawn/

Please let me know what I’ve missed. Also let me know if I missed any info on these, like additional platforms or release windows. Thanks!

Before we start, I’m aware of Itadaki Street and the numerous mobile game events. I’m proposing something more ambitious.

Let’s say that Square Enix decides to crossover their two flagship franchises Dragon Quest and Final Fantasy (RIP Kingdom Hearts). I can think of two concepts of how that would work:

1. Dragon Quest + Final Fantasy. Heroes of FF and DQ meet. So Warrior of Light meets Loto/Eldrick, Sephiroth meets Psaro, Estark meets Gilgamesh, Tifa meets Jade, etc. Maybe an OC for the game that mixes and matches spells and abilities from the two series.

2. Tokyo Mirage Sessions ♯FE/Kingdom Hearts style merge. Make a new JRPG that blends elements of each to make something completely new. Of course characters from each main series could serve as cameos or even super bosses.

How would you propose it happened? And what elements would you consider most crucial to making it feel like a true crossover?

I’m 40, wife J is 39. We have six kids , twin girls at 13, then 10f, 8m, 6m, and a 2 year old girl. Recently I switched jobs, which has given me better pay, ofc but the hours are really long/inconsistent ,and Im home a lot less than I used to be. My wife handles most of the day stuff with the kids on her own. I’m not unaware of how much that is, as I know being a SAHM is a job in itself

So about a few days ago I got home really late and she was sitting on the couch in the dark silently crying.it was just tears going down her face, she wasn’t sobbing though . She said, she, in her words “really really missed me.” So we talked a little, we ended up having intimacy, I went to sleep thinking we were good.

Next morning she brought it back up, this woman says she felt like I brushed her off because we just had sex instead of actually talking it through.

Mentally I was already into the day ahead and I said I didn’t know what she wanted me to say, that we’re grown adults, and why was she being so needy, the bills are paid and food is in the kids stomach with a roof on their head.. I was so aggressive I guess because I expected an argument, but she Just kind of looked down for a second and said she loved me and wanted to feel close to me and walked out of the room. I went to go give her a kiss but she was laying on the couch just not talking.

I dunno if it’s worth it to mention, but shes also going through peri-menopause? Her hormones have been hard on her, I believe she has told me so, she’s with the kids basically every hour I’m gone.

Since then she just says she’s fine, obviously I’ve nudged her a bit about it as a husband.. I think she thinks I don’t notice but she will still get a little teary when I walk in sometimes but the second she sees me notice she somehow just changes her whole demeanor, she hasn’t really done that before. Soo she just gives me a kiss, asks about my day.. gives me my dinner, the usual. and somehow more uncomfortable than trying to comfort her from crying.

And Our kids have picked up on something too, one of my 13 year old daughters asked me quietly the other day if mom was okay. My 10 year old has been following her around the house like she is trying to cheer her off, and the littles seem off, harder to settle to sleep than normally at night. And my whole house has this weird air or tension or whatever you want to call it, sitting in it, and it really did start with that one conversation.

My mom thinks I was wrong for the needy comment, and I need to handle it differently as a man.

So obviously I feel like I did nothing wrong, she’s a grown woman and should be able to realize we don’t have time together like we did when we were newly weds and could just cuddle or fool around all day.

I’m just fed up with this woman, making our household dysfunctional.. obviously I wanna fix this but It feels like I’m married to a child!! This is an extra write here

Edit: A lot of responses and people aren’t seeing my side but I’ll respond to it all soon, I see people asking if im baiting and all I can respond is that I wish my life was Ragebait, but this is currently my life. I should also add I enjoy gaming in my free time often so that’s a non negotiable for me. (Copied from my other post)

Edit 2: I understand I’ve been argumentative and sure I might look like a piece of shit, but if anyone has some advice I guess I am willing to accept it now.

I’m currently playing my first Dragon Quest game and really having a blast. I’ve obtained all of the rest of the numbered games including downloading Dragon Quest X for PC and patching it to English (side note: does DQX support controllers on PC?). I plan on finishing all of them this year.

Here’s the new question: what spin offs should I be considering? I’m pretty amenable to anything that’s not a soulslike and I’m particularly interested in the Heroes games. I also know that some games are prequels and sequels to main games so please let me know any non spoiler connections and if a particular spinoff should be played in proximity to a certain game i.e. play Heroes 1 right after DQ8 because it ties in heavily.

Thanks again!

Not game. Game subtitle.

Bonus points: which game’s subtitle most accurately reflects the gameplay/story (no spoilers plz. I’m like a quarter in my very first DQ game)

I realize that the one thing I want more than anything is a fight against Perfect Cell Max.

I think it’s pretty clear that Nomura has a particular story that he wants to tell with Kingdom Hearts and has been doing the most to interweave the narrative cohesively. Results may vary. I assume that he plans on making a somewhat definitive ending to Sora’s story and based on that assumption, I can think of two basic ways to move forward after that.

1. The Star Wars approach

We’ve seen something of this concept with Birth By Sleep and the x(chi) series. Basically Birth By Sleep is the prequels and x(chi) would be something akin to The High Republic. 358/2 then would be something like Rogue One, so on and so forth. So after the end they could make games about various characters in various times and possibly a sequel series with a new protagonist that Sora mentors. Full Star Wars treatment.

2. The Final Fantasy approach

A little harder to pull off with the established precedent, but turn the series into an anthology franchise. New entries aren’t tied to Sora and friends and aren’t even set in the same multiverse. They won’t be weighed down with all the established lore outside of the essentials (keyblades, hearts, heartless, etc) and they won’t be beholden to any canon events.

Or maybe something else can happen. Maybe they go full FF7 and do a remake. Maybe they go DmC: Devil May Cry and fully reimagine Sora’s story. What do you think should happen once Nomura is finished?

Bonus question: how many numbered Kingdom Hearts games do you think Sora’s story will contain? My guess is seven.

My wife and I have only been married for a year. We have We dated for 5 years. The other day we had gotten into a pretty heated argument. The argument was over having firearms in the house. I had brought a few guns of mine from my dad's house into our town home we rent. I told her I had brought them home. She then made a comment about throwing them away or surrendering them to the police station. I said to her what if I threw your makeup away. She got mad and droped the converstation. When she gets mad she isolates herself in the other bed room and refuses to speak to me until I approach her about it. The next day passes and I get home from work. I have a few things to do so I mind my own business. Its late in the evening by this point and I know I have to talk to her to try and fix it. I open the door and ask do you have a minute to talk. She says you said you were bringing home a few guns. I said I did and asked what she was talking about. For context I keep a few cases to take to the range. She gets up out of the bed and goes to our bed room closet and starts throwing the cases to the floor. I am like what the hell are you doing? I try and stop her from tearing up the closet and she slapped me. She said I lunged at her. I said your acting like a damn five year old. We had a foot or two between us. When she was throwing the cases one of the pistols had fallen out of the case. For warning I keep all my firearms unloaded. She picks it up and points it at me. I immediately take it away form her and I clear it. I ask her what the hell do you think you are doing? She like why do you need that if you are scared of it. I told her you treat every firearm as if it loaded. She say I don't feel safe with those in the house I told her I was getting a safe for them. She like I dont want to see that. I ask what was the point of throwing stuff did it accomplish anything. I said I dont throw your stuff around. She like fine you want me to throw my stuff she proceeds to to throw her makeup and other care products from her makeup desk. She then goes its me or the guns this wont be fixed between us till those guns are gone she storms off and goes back to the other room and slams the door shut. It has been a few days she keeps coming home very late every night and this morning when I tried to talk to her the door was barricaded. At this point emotionally and physically I want a divorce or an anolment. I just dont know the best course of actions. Yes my family knows about this and says I need to leave.

Rule is that you have to take something from KH1, KH2, and KH3. So for example, the exploration of KH1, the combat system of KH2, and the Keyblade switching of KH3. Something from 1, 2, and 3. Non numbered games are optional.

Show me your Kingdom Hearts.

I’m finally getting into DQ after really vibing hard with the Dragon Quest VII Reimagined demo. I’ve grabbed both HD2D games and I already have the DS remakes of 4-6 and 3DS version of 8. I also have 11 on Switch. I plan working through in order, but my question is where to start. I know through osmosis that DQ3 is set before DQ1&2 and that DQ11 is set before 3, but I don’t know any story spoilers save ruling half the world. So! What would be the best story experience for me? Start with 11? Start with 3? Start with 1? I feel like I should start with 3 since they remade that before 1&2, but if there’s a best path I’m amenable to whatever. Or should I just finish 7 since I’m already four hours in and really having a good time?

Also, I know that 4-6 are linked and that 1-3 plus 11 are linked, but without spoilers, is anything else linked?

Thanks in advance!

“They aren’t going to add new races”

You don’t know that.

“They won’t have custom characters”

You don’t know that.

“There won’t be time traveling”

You don’t know that.

“They won’t have any characters from Heroes/Fighterz/etc”

You don’t know that.

The rules and limits that governed Xenoverse 2 do not necessarily apply to Xenoverse 3. The deals that were made for Xenoverse 2 do not necessarily apply to Xenoverse 3. What some dumbass know nothing YouTuber says damn well doesn’t apply to Xenoverse 3 (and I bet you know who I mean). Just about the only thing you can say *for sure* about Xenoverse 3 is that Goku is gonna show up. Dats it.

Please pause your panic until a more proper period. Like went they start talking about the actual gameplay.

For now? Chill and enjoy the vibes. We won. Our day is coming.

I am NOT OP. Original post by u/throwawaytogetherccc in r/offmychest and r/survivinginfidelity

trigger warnings: >!infidelity, cancer!<

mood spoilers: >!sad and depressing for OOP!<

New updates start from 12th September 2023.

Previous BORU is here.

Editor's Note - OOP misgendered u/angelposts**, this has been corrected.**

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I am at a loss as to what to do with my (54M) wife (51F) request - 24th June 2023

My wife and I have been married since 2001 and together since 1999. She is the most intelligent, thoughtful, caring, loyal person I know, and I have always thought of myself as fortunate to have met and married her. She is, even today, aesthetically beautiful and men have told her this throughout our marriage. She has always shot them down.

Earlier this year, she was diagnosed with uterine cancer, stage 1 and had a full hysterectomy. I was never concerned about the cancer, it was diagnosed early, dealt with quickly and she made a full recovery. I took time off work to look after her after the surgery and all seemed well. There were some to-be-expected emotional instances on her part and although I am not an emotional person, we dealt with them together.

After her recover, she was insistent that we start “living life to the fullest” and took a 10 day trip to Europe, followed by a trip to Belize. We also have a trip to the UK and Spain/Portugal later this year. I am fine with these things, building memories and crossing bucket-list adventures off her/our list. I also understand that these are a result of feeling fragile on her part. She also took up Yoga, Swimming and healthy cooking classes. I was fully onboard until last week.

Last week she came home from work and told me she wanted a “hall pass”. A one-time opportunity for her to have sex with someone else besides me. She said that since her cancer diagnosis her outlook on life has changed and she doesn’t want to be handcuffed from doing things she wants do. She explained that there is this guy at her work that she has always had some attraction to. He is leaving the company and she will never see him again, so this is the perfect opportunity to sleep with someone else. She said that I could say no of course but that she would “be mad/disappointed at me for an indeterminate amount of time and that it would be confirmation of my male toxicity and insecurity.”

I don’t consider myself to be toxic and if not wanting your wife of 20+ years to have sex with someone else is insecure than I guess I am insecure. I told her that I appreciated her talking to me about this but approval via coercion is not approval. I also said that I do not appreciate her language in describing my, as of yet, unknown reaction to this very large issue that could affect the rest of our marriage/life.

I got up in the morning she basically said that she was sorry for putting such a large decision solely on my shoulders and that to “help” she was taking the decision away from me. She booked a hotel near where her coworkers are having a party/send-off for this guy and she would spend the night there, with him and hoped that I would be here when she got back. That she would answer any questions I have about the night after it happened but not before. She will not tell me who he is or anything about him “because she knows me too well and that I will dwell and obsess over him” and that would make it “too real for me” which is pretty accurate. Her POV is that the less I know the better which contradicts the offer to tell me anything I want to know after it happened. I think she knows I wont want to know/ask anything or she simply will not tell me.

Part of me thinks, at least she has been honest with me and she has been through a lot since finding out she had cancer so maybe I should just let it happen. I certainly have no concept of what she went through so I cannot dismiss how this affected her mental state/outlook on life. Part of me wants to put my foot down and say this is not going to happen and deal with those consequences when they happen. Her BFF called me callous for even suggesting that I wouldn’t let it happen, because I have no idea what she went through. I find it hard to believe that she is OK with the possibility of throwing away 20+ years of marriage over some guy that she has had no relationship with outside of work and that I should just call her bluff. Maybe she thinks similarly that I won’t throw away the marriage because of one encounter. I just don’t know what to do. I empathize with her and then an instant later I am angry with her.

Part of me wants to know who this guy is? What does he look like, what has he got that is so enthralling for her. Is he just a safe option? Is he married? Does his wife know? Would I be a callous asshole for saying No? What can I do besides walking away?

TLDR: Wife battled cancer, won, but now wants to have one night with a soon-to-be former coworker and I have no say in the matter. Accept it or destroy 20+ years of a great marriage.

 

Top Comment from u/Biauralbeats

 Kinda think this is the way your marriage will be from now on. With her epiphany, she wants to relive her life and she is going to do it regardless of your feelings. I think she is being rather selfish and probably only threatens this because she thinks you are beaten down and will simply put up with it. Perhaps not the best time for trips and frills. She wants the single life- let her see what that means.

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OOP replies to some comments

She thinks because she will never see this guy again and that I have never met him (supposedly) that it wont really affect me or our marriage in the long term.

I am left with accepting it and never viewing her the same way again or going through a divorce at 54. Not really great options on either front.

I don't know where her head is and the bout with cancer is affecting her in ways that I couldn't possibly imagine. I don't think she believes I will leave.

 

Update my cancer survivor wife wanted a "Hall Pass" UPDATE - 28th June 2023

I received a ton of advice that I couldn't possibly respond to. I do appreciate the people who took time to offer advice in the comments or via PM. It has been an exhausting couple of days.

I was hoping that my opposition to her plans would give her pause, but unfortunately that did not happen. I said I am a hard no, and I am not sure how I will feel about you, if you go ahead with it. I was met once again with “this is for me, it will be one time, what can I say to help you deal with it, you’ll get over it, we were meant to be regardless of the situation” remarks leading up to Saturday.

She left Saturday, ostensibly to meet her coworkers, but in reality fuck the guy. I asked her to text me when she was leaving for the bar and when she did I asked her if she was really going to go through with this. After her response “I am not answering anymore questions tonight, I will see you tomorrow.” I blocked my wife. Then I did something either stupid or brilliant.

I went to the bar where the get-together was happening. Well not the bar but a transit bench across the street. I waited for a long time. It was running through my mind the leading up to this event, that I need to know who this guy was, maybe to compare myself against him. To see what he had that I do not. It was driving me crazy not knowing who he was and what was so special about him that she would ruin a marriage for.

After what seemed like eternity, a woman that I recognized from my wife’s office left the bar and got in a cab. Soon other people started filing out and a whole group came out and people were hugging a man and shaking his hand. I assumed that I had my guy. I didn’t see my wife and had a brief thought that maybe she called it all off. I unblocked her and there were no messages.

Everyone said their goodbyes and left, dude was standing outside for a few minutes and then my wife came out. She looked around, took his hand and started walking away together. Of all the emotions I went through, trepidation, sadness, anger, it was disgust that really encapsulated the event for me. This guy was short, fat, and bald, all the things I cannot compete with. Ultimately, I felt like a pervert for watching from a distance. I followed until they got to the hotel, and then turned around and went home.

I woke up Sunday morning and put a lock on the master bedroom door. I moved her things to the spare room and left a note asking her to find other accommodations as quickly as possible. I visited another friend who is a lawyer and he gave me some sage advice and a couple of recommendations for divorce attorneys and made the introductions. My wife had been calling me numerous time since around 11 or so. Once blocked the calls go to voicemail. I listened to the first couple but felt nothing but some satisfaction when she couldn’t get through to me and she was obviously becoming concerned.

I didn’t want to go home but I left in such a hurry that I didn’t plan an overnight properly. I got home around 9 and as per my buddy’s advice, I recorded the interaction. I was halfway up the stairs when she came up from the family room asking what was going on? Could we talk? I thought we talked about this? I just answered with I am not interested in discussing this tonight and went to bed. After not getting a response from me through the door she left me alone. I feel kind of like a child for not talking with her and shutting the door on her but I just couldn't look at her. Monday I got up and ready for work, she was waiting for me and asked if we could discuss getting back to normal. I said, you have been doing all the talking for the both of us for the last week, why don’t you continue and left for work. I have an appointment with the attorneys my friend recommended for this week.

TLDR: She went ahead with it. I am actually more disgusted by who she chose than the sex itself, if that makes any sense. I asked her to find somewhere else to live.

 

Top Comment from u/RJPONY01

I can only hope that you've decided to do what's best for you. At the end of the day you're the one that has to live with your decisions. From your previous post it's obvious that your wife, and I use that term merely as a placeholder, has made her decision.

I know that having something that has been such a huge part of your life end can be daunting, but sometimes it's for the best.

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Potential Waywards & The BFF - 2nd August 2023

The BFF does not have your best interests in mind. The BFF wants to validate their bad choices by encouraging you to make the same ones. The BFF lives for the drama they help create. The BFF is titillated by the details. The BFF cultivates misery. The BFF is a narcissist, who cant help themselves, so if the statement, JUST GO FOR IT, YOU DESERVE IT, HE DOESN’T APPRECIATE YOU, HE DOESN’T RESPECT YOU, and in my case, YOU FACED YOUR OWN MORTALITY AND YOU SHOULDN’T LET ANYONE HOLD YOU BACK FROM DOING THE THINGS THAT MAKE YOU HAPPY, maybe realize that you should talk with your significant other and explain what you are feeling. You owe it to them to discuss the way you’re feeling about yourself, your partner and your marriage.

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Comments from OOP

Yeah, once the dust settled I realized that I was desperate to hold on to something that no longer existed. I have initiated divorce proceedings.

She has regret. Not remorse. Of course those are different things with different meanings. She regrets what has happened because her life is upside down now.

Someone in a private message asked if her cancer could be back and spread to her brain which I don't know if it has actually happened or not, but I doubt it would make any difference to me at this point. I just don't see her the same way any more.

I told all her friends husbands about how they enabled this behavior and the fall-out is interesting.

I said that maybe they are covering for one another, that maybe my wife was just the next link in the chain. This got them going through their wives phones. A couple found inappropriate sexting. All husbands have made their wives cut off my wife (and each other).

Was BFF one of those sexting?

Of course. The BFF's husband says that she was definitely in a EA and probably a PA as well. He is still digging.

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UPDATE I am a loss as to what to do with my (54M) wife (51F) Hall past request - 4th August 2023

Original was deleted, but was preserved in a comment

UPDATE 2:

My lawyer wasn’t available for a few days, so I was faced with the reality of having to live with my wife in the interim. I really didn’t want to go home and have any discussion, let alone a discussion about our relationship.

When I did get home I was basically ambushed by her friends and my mother in-law. Instead of taking the remorseful approach they decided that a full court press was what the situation warranted and I was basically berated by them. The BFF was definitely the ringleader, but all of them decided to say such things as; she’s been through a lot, you don’t know what she’s been through, you have no idea what it is like to face something like this, this was a one time thing, at least she told you she could have hidden it from you, she will never see the guy again, and my favorite, you are an asshole for what you have been putting her through these last couple of days.

I listened with a “dumbass smirk” on my face and when there was a lull in their fury, I asked if they were all done now. Then I asked my wife if there was anyone in her circle of friends or anyone else that she forgot to tell about this. I quietly informed all of them that I was going to sit down with their husbands and tell them about how they verbally abusing me, shaming me and trying to coerce me into staying with a cheater. After I told them to leave, I said that I had no say in entire event and so they have no say in whether I stay or not.

My STBXW sort of apologized. She said that she regretted the entire thing. I said there is a difference between regret and remorse. You regret what happened because of the cause-and-effect. You have regret because your life will never be the same, our relationship will never be the same because you where wholly and willfully unconcerned about me and what I wanted.

She asked if I had any questions that she would answer them now, no matter how disturbing. I said that the one question I do have is Why. Not necessarily why this guy, why this low-end unattractive, unfit guy, but why someone else in the first place? She said that the cancer scared her to her core. She felt like she was rushing toward mortality and stepping out of that tunnel was appealing. She said that after all this time of being a wife, and mother and worrying about family, this was something just for her. An escape. The guy was just someone who was interested in her for a long time, she knew wouldn’t say no and was completely opposite to me. I said if I was going to risk my marriage, the woman would have to be a serious upgrade from you. I told her that I saw you and him coming out of the bar that night. I watched you walk away from the bar hand-in-hand towards the hotel. I said that you looked too familiar with each other and asked if there was something going on before all this. She said no but who knows if that is the truth or not.

I said that after all our years together, your lack of respect for me was astonishing. I finished by saying that I would never be able to look at myself in the mirror again if I condoned that level of disrespect and stayed with you. I said I hope we can go our separate ways amicably and that I have an appointment with a lawyer later in the week. I again asked her to find some other accommodations and she simply said, I am not going anywhere. We are not getting a divorce. I will give you all the time you need and do whatever you need to recover from this. We will get past this. She has asked me to go to marriage counseling, which I refused. Why would I go to counseling, I did nothing to warrant needing a therapists advice.

I had her served and gave her a notice to vacate (the house is my premarital asset). She has moved in with her mom but I find her constantly coming by to see if I need anything or making suggestions like ‘what if we had an open relationship only on your side or threesomes’, which seems kind of desperate and pathetic. Rebuffing her constantly and telling her she has to call to ask permission before coming by and finally seems to getting through to her that there will be no us going forward.

She has said that she will drag the divorce out for as long as possible, but so far has been compliant. The worst part of all this is telling my daughter that we are getting a divorce and why, followed closely by her begging me to give her mom another chance. I am not sure I would have been afforded the same consideration if I was the one who was cheating.

TLDR: A lot of unkind things were said but she has been served and has moved out. Divorce is next with me hoping mediation is reasonable and I don’t get screwed in the end.

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Comments

On his daughter:

>I think it was just a gut reaction. In the weeks that have passed, and the more she understands what has happened, the more irritated she is becoming with her mom.

On his wife:

>I loved my wife. I, and others, found her to be stunning (she looks like Linda Carter). Now, knowing that she affaired down so low makes her a non-entity that I could never look at the same way again. No amount of counseling is going to change the way I see her.

Some Q&A:

Something had to transpire prior to her hotel excursion. There's no way she decided in a matter of a few days to pick and cheat with AP.

>Getting sex is easier for women. Maybe they were involved in a EA before and this was a culmination. I don't really know nor do I care, unless it benefits me during the divorce.
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>From what I know all of her friends have cut her off. They are trying like hell to save their own marriages that they are turning on each other.

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After vacating your house, is she feeling any remorse? Or is she still thinking you need to get over it as of today. Going NC with WW should be easy since daughter is an adult. What desperate measures has she taken that you haven't mentioned in your post and comments?

>She was stoic and held her position right up until she was served. Then she became visibly upset and resorted to begging, pleading and bargaining.

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Really? No Tears? No emotional meltdown?

I am sorry that happened to you.

How can she not see what she has done to you? The whole way this went is so surreal, from start to finish. It is like she has a manic or hypomanic episode.You are doing the right thing by divorcing her. Sorry, but there is no love in her anymore.

You, sir, have not lost your self-respect and have made the right choice. Take care of yourself.

>Plenty of tears, begging and bargaining after the fact, but that maybe just optics. Maybe she fell out of love and now is regretting her new station in life. She's an attractive woman, she will have plenty of men willing to date her, but I won't be one of them.

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Wow! Amazing poker face she really thought she owned you.

>She was confident, overly so.

If you ever feel the need to go nuclear, you could reveal the affair to her coworkers. I but that would be a disaster.

>I want her employed so I don't have to pay maintenance even if it was while she was between jobs.
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>There is a woman at her work who has always looked at me in an inviting way so maybe I will try to date her after this is over. That would be interesting on a couple of levels.

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**Final Update Starts Here**

Original Deleted from r/offmychest, retrieved with Reveddit

UPDATE 2 - I am a loss as to what to do with my (54M) wife (51F) Hall past request - 12th September 2023

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There is not much to report. We are in the process of getting a divorce, however where we live, we must be legally separated for 1 year.

My STBXW has said that she will give me whatever I want in the divorce if I agree to attend marriage counseling, but I am not interested. There was a bit of back-and-forth while we worked out what separation looks like in everyday life from this point forward. As a result, we have only just agreed to the confines of the legal separation, so as we move towards defining the divorce language, maybe my stance may change.

The house was a premarital asset, so she has no claim to it. The only things she could go after are my pension, vehicles and vacation property but I would counter that she has lived rent free for 20+ years and has her own money plus inheritance from her father. I may have offer a top up in retirement as she was a stay-at-home mom while our daughter was young, but that would be the most at this point.

I received a lot of messages about her friend group and my daughter, so I will clear up and misconceptions now.

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My daughter isn’t taking her mother side. She has always been a mommas girl but she is very unhappy with her mom right now. Her initial reaction was just shock and held out hope that we would work through any issues and stay together. Now she accepts that is not going to happen she has been limiting her interactions with her, but at the end of the day, she is still her mom.

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The friend group husbands were upset at the level of complicity of their wives in aiding and abetting the contact/cheating and made them cut off my wife, but that seems to have been forgotten at this point. The BFF was the ringleader and seems to have taken perverse pleasure in actively creating scenarios where they would be in contact. At the very least encouraging to the point of causing her husband to question her motives. It turns out she didn’t like me at all and this was her way of ‘sticking it too me’. I guess she wins.

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The BFF’s husband said that there were some sexting in his wife's messages but said he is dealing with it. We did meet up a with him being apologetic for his wife’s complicity, but it is not his fault and just want to move on.

I have decided not to date anyone for awhile. I will not be getting married ever again.

So that is it. I doubt I will post again unless she wins the lottery and I find it my heart to forgive her…

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For u/angelposts and his crew at r/AmITheAngel, she couldn't be pregnant with twins because she had a hysterectomy, and that is not how women work

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Reminder - I am not the original poster.