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Progressive Islam vs Orthodox Islam Explained
This is a fairly respectful, unbiased and neutral take to the matter. I thought maybe the narrator would be biased and accuse progressives of deviancy or heresy, but surprisingly he didn’t pick a side. Even his pinned comment is very respectful:
>This video is an objective, sociological exploration of the debate between Progressive and Orthodox Islam. The goal is educational: to understand the arguments, history, and real-world impact of this divide on modern Muslim communities. Let’s keep the discussion respectful, fact-based, and focused on understanding. No sectarian slurs, no hate speech, no takfir, and no personal attacks will be tolerated
I think everyone here should subscribe to this channel "Kaaba Chronicles" and support him, because it's hard to come across a good Muslim content creator who doesn’t accuse progressives of heresy. And he even mentioned Dr Khaled Abou El Fadl's name 😱
আল-কায়েদা নিয়ে জাতিসংঘের রিপোর্ট অনুমাননির্ভর, আমলে নিচ্ছি না: স্বরাষ্ট্রমন্ত্রী
আজকে ডেমরা থেকে বোমাসদৃশ বস্তুসহ সন্দেহভাজনকে আটক করেছে পুলিশ। কি হচ্ছে দেশে? দুইদিন আগেই না সাভারে বোমা নিষ্ক্রিয় করলো, তার কয়দিন আগে মেট্রোরেলের নিচ থেকে বোমা উদ্ধার করলো। কোথায় যাচ্ছে দেশ?
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https://reddit.com/link/1vqadya/video/04g5kgmuatjh1/player
হঠাৎ করে কেন এগুলো শুরু হচ্ছে? আর তারউপর নাকি আসিফ আদনানকে আমন্ত্রণ করে ঢাকা বিশ্ববিদ্যালয়ে নিয়ে যাওয়া হচ্ছে বক্তৃতা দেবার জন্য? বুঝতেছি না কিছুই
অনেক দুশ্চিন্তায় আছি এসব দেখে
History of the Quran only movement - Part 1
[Post was written with AI assistance]
⏪⏪ The Early History of Qur’an-Centric and Qur’an-Only Thought ⏩⏩
The Kharijite movement
The earliest movement that can plausibly be connected to a strong Qur’an-centered or Qur’an-only tendency was the Kharijite movement, which emerged during the first Muslim civil war. In 657 CE, during the Battle of Ṣiffīn between the forces of Caliph ʿAli ibn Abi Talib and Muʿawiya ibn Abi Sufyan, an arbitration was agreed upon after pressure from elements within ʿAli’s army. A group of ʿAli’s supporters rejected the arbitration and separated from him, maintaining that “judgment belongs to God alone” (lā ḥukma illā li-llāh). They regarded arbitration between human beings as an unacceptable replacement for divine judgment and eventually established themselves as a distinct movement. Their first major confrontation with ʿAli came at Nahrawan in 658 CE, where his forces defeated them. The movement nevertheless survived and developed into a number of factions that continued to revolt against both the Umayyads and, later, the Abbasids. Early Kharijite history is therefore inseparable from the political struggles of the first Islamic century.
The Kharijites were not a single homogeneous sect, and it is therefore dangerous to describe every Kharijite as “Qur’an-only.” Their central concern was initially political and theological rather than a systematic theory of scripture and hadith. Nevertheless, some Kharijite branches are reported to have adopted an exceptionally restrictive approach to religious authority. The Kharijites as the first Qur’an-only movement in a particular sense is a useful description for this strand of early thought, especially because later theological sources attribute to certain Kharijite factions the view that religious knowledge could be obtained from the Qur’an alone and that transmitted reports should not be accepted as an independent source of doctrine or law. The Azariqa and Bazighiyya are particularly associated in later reports with this position. According to material preserved from the early Muʿtazilite theologian Ḍirār ibn ʿAmr and later recorded by Abu al-Qasim al-Balkhi, these groups held that knowledge of religion was obtained from the Qur’an alone and rejected reports and consensus. Abu al-Qasim al-Balkhi likewise described some Kharijites as rejecting transmitted tradition altogether and insisting on what was literally contained in the Book.
Yet the historical development of Kharijism was dominated by its political struggles rather than by a sustained program of Qur’anic interpretation. After Nahrawan, surviving Kharijite groups dispersed and began developing very different doctrines. Some became extremely militant, most famously the Azariqa, founded by Nafiʿ ibn al-Azraq. The Azariqa established themselves in southern Iran and Iraq and launched repeated revolts against Umayyad authority. Their doctrine became increasingly uncompromising: they regarded Muslims who disagreed with them as unbelievers or apostates, developed severe rules concerning those who remained outside their movement, and regarded rebellion against unjust rulers as a religious duty. Their military campaigns continued through the second half of the seventh century until Umayyad forces gradually destroyed their political power. The history of the Azariqa therefore demonstrates the fragility of the early Qur’an-centered tendency: whatever their scriptural orientation, they developed into a revolutionary sect whose survival depended upon military organization and territorial control rather than upon a stable scholarly institution. The Azariqa were eventually crushed, and their particular interpretation disappeared as an organized political movement.
One of the most striking examples of this scripturalist tendency is found in reports concerning the Bidʿiyya, a subgroup that some heresiographical sources connect with the Azāriqa. Their importance for the history of Qur’an-centric thought lies not simply in rejecting particular hadith, but in reportedly allowing the Qur’an to determine religious practice even when this meant departing from practices that had become widely established among Muslims. The surviving accounts associate them with a rejection of the conventional requirement of five daily prayers. They are described as rejecting the Sunnah’s five daily prayers, while other reports suggest a doctrine of two obligatory prayers, one in the morning and another in the evening. The evidence is not sufficiently clear to reconstruct their exact ritual practice with certainty, but the underlying principle is significant: the number of obligatory prayers was being judged according to what could be established from the Qur’an rather than simply accepted on the basis of established communal practice.
The same scripturalist tendency appears even more clearly in their position on rajm, the stoning of married adulterers. The Qur’an explicitly prescribes flogging for zina in Qur’an 24:2, whereas the classical Sunni ruling of stoning depends upon Prophetic reports and the doctrine that the Prophet’s Sunnah could establish or specify law beyond the explicit wording of the Qur’an. The Azāriqa are repeatedly reported to have rejected rajm precisely because they did not accept that additional ruling. Their position therefore followed a distinctly Qur’an-centered legal principle: where a punishment was not explicitly established by the Qur’an, it could not simply be imposed because it was attributed to the Prophet through later transmitted reports. Academic studies of the classical evidence identify the Azāriqa as a major Kharijite exception to the juristic position on rajm and associate their position with Qur’an 24:2.
Their scripturalism extended into other areas of law and ritual as well. Classical heresiographical reports attribute to the Azāriqa and their associated subgroups several positions that departed from emerging Sunni law when that law depended upon hadith, communal consensus, or inherited practice rather than an explicit Qur’anic basis. Their treatment of ritual prayer, the punishment of adultery, and other legal questions consequently became part of the wider controversy over whether the Qur’an was sufficient as the ultimate source of religious legislation. This makes the Bidʿiyya and related Azāriqa material particularly important in the history of Qur’an-centric thought: centuries before the modern Ahl al-Qur’an movements, there were already Muslim groups whose scripturalist reasoning could lead them to reject established religious practices when those practices could not, in their view, be demonstrated directly from the Qur’an.
(At the same time, the evidence requires caution. The Bidʿiyya are poorly documented independently, and their precise relationship with the Azāriqa is uncertain. Much of the information about them survives through medieval heresiographical works written after the events and often by opponents of the movements being described. The methodological problems involved in reconstructing early sectarian doctrines from this material are therefore substantial. The two-prayer position should consequently be presented as a reported doctrine attributed to a Kharijite subgroup, rather than as an indisputably established practice of all Kharijites or even all Azāriqa. What can be said with greater confidence is that early Kharijite circles included strongly scripturalist tendencies, and that some reports describe them rejecting established practices—including five daily prayers and rajm—when they believed those practices lacked a sufficient Qur’anic foundation.)
Other Kharijite branches followed different paths. The Najdat, another major Kharijite faction, became powerful in Arabia and eastern regions during the Second Fitna, but internal disagreements over leadership, sin, and the status of Muslims outside the movement eventually fractured them. The Sufriyya also survived for longer periods in North Africa and elsewhere, while the Ibadi branch developed into the one major Kharijite-derived tradition to survive continuously into the present. The Ibadis, however, should not be treated as a surviving Qur’an-only movement. Their tradition developed its own hadith corpus, legal scholarship, theological literature, and concept of Sunnah. What survived from early Kharijism was therefore not an intact Qur’an-only school but one branch of a much broader early sectarian tradition. The Kharijite movement as a political force fragmented because its factions disagreed over theology, leadership, the status of sinners, relations with other Muslims, and the legitimacy of rebellion.
The historical significance of these early Kharijite tendencies lies in the fact that they demonstrate that a strong appeal to the Qur’an as the decisive religious authority was present very early in Islamic history. At the same time, their story also demonstrates why it is misleading to construct a simple uninterrupted genealogy between them and modern Qur’anism. Their historical circumstances were completely different. They were products of the first civil wars, the struggle over political legitimacy, and disputes about the caliphate. Their Qur’an-centered tendencies existed within a much wider revolutionary ideology. There was no modern conception of “Qur’anism” as a transnational religious reform movement, no developed theory of hadith criticism comparable to that of later centuries, and no organized project for reconstructing Islamic law exclusively from the Qur’an.
Rationalists, The Ḍirāriyya & The Muʿtazilite movement
The second important stage came during the late seventh and eighth centuries, when Muslim scholars and theologians increasingly debated the evidentiary status of transmitted reports. This was not yet one unified “anti-hadith movement.” Rather, there were a number of people who questioned whether reports attributed to the Prophet could independently establish religious doctrine or law. The diversity of these positions is especially visible in the intellectual environment of Basra, Kufa, Baghdad, and other major centers of learning, where theologians, jurists, traditionists, and rationalist thinkers were developing different methods of determining religious truth.
Among the most important figures in this broader intellectual environment was Ḍirār ibn ʿAmr, a theologian active in the late eighth and early ninth centuries. He became associated with the theological group later known as the Ḍirāriyya and was involved in disputes concerning theology, religious authority, and transmitted reports. His surviving work, Kitāb al-Taḥrīsh, is particularly significant because it preserves material concerning competing sectarian arguments and reports that different groups used in theological disputes. Its treatment of contradictory hadith became relevant to later discussions of how reports should be evaluated. Recent research on Ḍirār emphasizes that his surviving work contains material concerning apparently conflicting hadith and that he was critical of the ways hadith were employed polemically.
The Muʿtazilite movement also emerged during this period, although calling the Muʿtazilites Qur’an-only would be inaccurate. Their importance to the history of Qur’an-centered thought comes from the fact that they developed a highly rationalist method for evaluating religious claims. They insisted that reason could establish certain truths about God and morality and that revelation should not be interpreted in ways that produced contradictions with sound rational principles. Their approach affected their treatment of hadith. Rather than automatically accepting a report because it was transmitted, Muʿtazilite thinkers scrutinized its content and evidentiary status. Some required very strong transmission before granting a report certainty in matters of theology. The famous Muʿtazilite thinker Ibrahim al-Naẓẓām, active in the Abbasid period, went considerably further in his criticism of particular hadith traditions, especially reports attributed to Abu Hurayra. Later accounts describe him as arguing that even multiple transmission could not automatically guarantee the reliability of reports when the underlying transmission remained vulnerable to human error and distortion.
Al-Naẓẓām's position is historically important because it illustrates a different route toward Qur’an-centered religious thought. He did not simply say, “Ignore the Qur’an and hadith everything else”; rather, he placed rational certainty above the mere existence of a transmitted report. A report could not establish theological truth simply because a chain of transmission existed. The substance of the report, its consistency, and its epistemological status mattered. This approach became part of the wider rationalist challenge to the growing authority of traditionist scholarship. However, the Muʿtazilite movement itself never became a Qur’an-only movement. It possessed its own theological literature, engaged extensively with inherited Islamic traditions, and accepted forms of prophetic authority. Its significance lies in its contribution to the intellectual tools through which later Muslims could question the authority of individual hadith or insist that revelation and reason could not be subordinated to uncritical transmission.
Al-Shafiʿi, The rise of Traditionalists and Ahl al-Hadith
The growing debate eventually reached one of its clearest surviving expressions in the work of Muhammad ibn Idris al-Shafiʿi (d. 820). Al-Shafiʿi wrote at a time when competing theories of law were struggling to establish which sources could legitimately produce religious rulings. In his Jimaʿ al-ʿIlm, he presented debates with opponents whom he considered to be rejecting the authority of hadith. Crucially, he divided them into two broad categories: those who rejected hadith altogether and those who rejected particular categories of reports. The work therefore provides direct evidence that, by the beginning of the ninth century, there were Muslims who openly disputed the independent authority of hadith.
The people whom al-Shafiʿi debated are difficult to reconstruct because he generally did not identify them by name or clearly attach them to organized schools. This is one of the major limitations of the evidence. It would therefore be wrong to turn these unnamed opponents into a single, organized “Qur’anist sect.” They may have represented several different intellectual positions. Some appear to have rejected hadith altogether, whereas others accepted some categories of reports while rejecting others. The debates nevertheless reveal that the question of whether hadith constituted binding religious evidence was alive and controversial precisely when the foundations of classical Islamic jurisprudence were being formulated. A study devoted specifically to Jimaʿ al-ʿIlm identifies it as among the earliest surviving evidence for individuals or groups questioning or repudiating the authority of hadith.
Al-Shafiʿi's response was decisive for the subsequent history of Islamic law. He developed an argument for the binding authority of the Prophet's Sunnah and treated authentic prophetic reports as a textual basis for law. In his legal theory, the Qur’an and Sunnah were intimately connected rather than competing authorities. His project did not mean that every later Sunni principle was simply invented by him, but his writings became enormously influential in giving systematic legal expression to the authority of prophetic tradition. Modern scholarship has therefore treated al-Shafiʿi as a crucial figure in the transformation of the debate over Sunnah and hadith into a formal theory of law.
This was the point at which the intellectual balance began moving decisively away from the early groups that questioned transmitted authority. The Ahl al-Hadith, or traditionalist current, increasingly presented the preservation and transmission of prophetic reports as a central religious task. Hadith scholars built increasingly sophisticated methods for evaluating transmitters and chains of transmission, while jurists incorporated accepted reports into legal reasoning. The result was not an immediate disappearance of disagreement, but the gradual creation of an intellectual world in which hadith and Sunnah had an increasingly secure place within Islamic scholarship. The Qur’an remained the supreme revelation, but the Prophet's Sunnah increasingly came to be understood as a necessary authoritative explanation and practical embodiment of the Qur’an.
The early hadith-critical and Qur’an-centered tendencies therefore did not disappear because their questions were necessarily solved to everyone's satisfaction. They disappeared as organized alternative movements because the intellectual institutions of Islamic civilization increasingly favored traditions that integrated the Qur’an with the Prophetic Sunnah and established mechanisms for determining which reports were acceptable. Traditionalist scholarship gained authority through teaching networks, juristic institutions, hadith collections, and the formation of legal schools. At the same time, the early radical movements themselves were vulnerable to internal fragmentation. The Kharijites divided into competing factions; the Muʿtazilites remained a rationalist theological school rather than becoming Qur’an-only; and the identifiable opponents of al-Shafiʿi did not leave behind a continuous organized community that preserved their position.
⏪⏪ 9th-17th century: Domination by the Traditionalists ⏩⏩
From the ninth through seventeenth centuries, therefore, there is no comparable continuous Qur’an-only movement that can be followed from generation to generation. This was overwhelmingly the period in which classical Islamic scholarship consolidated itself. Sunni Islam developed around the major legal schools, hadith scholarship, Qur’anic exegesis, theology, and other disciplines, while Shi‘i traditions developed their own systems of transmitted authority and jurisprudence. There continued to be disagreements over the authenticity, interpretation, and legal significance of hadith, and rationalist scholars continued to criticize certain traditions, but those disagreements generally occurred inside larger Islamic intellectual traditions rather than through a sustained movement insisting that the Qur’an alone was sufficient as the sole source of religious authority. The earlier Qur’an-centered tendencies had either disappeared, been absorbed into broader theological traditions, or survived in substantially transformed forms.
Sources:
Hüseyin Hansu — “Debates on the Authority of Hadith in Early Islamic Intellectual History: Identifying al-Shafi‘i’s Opponents in Jimaʿ al-ʿIlm” https://avesis.istanbul.edu.tr/yayin/84c32c65-c334-4c7e-9a30-85267d7cd5b4/debates-on-the-authority-of-hadith-in-early-islamic-intellectual-history-identifying-al-shafiis-opponents-in-jima-al-ilm
Abdul Karim Ali — “Anti-Hadith: Rujukan Kepada Kitab Jima' al-'Ilm” — Jurnal Usuluddin, University of Malaya https://mojc.um.edu.my/index.php/JUD/article/view/3761
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Clifford Edmund Bosworth — “Kharijites in Persia,” Encyclopaedia Iranica https://www.iranicaonline.org/articles/kharijites-in-persia/
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Update:
Part 2:
“All Scholars Agree” — Except Yasir Qadhi Doesn’t Talk About That Part
This meme was made in response to this argument of Yasir Qadhi which he said in front of camera:
More recent thread that got me to make this meme: https://www.reddit.com/r/MuslimAcademics/comments/1voltqi/why_did_every_early_scholar_understood_the/
Full lecture: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GBcdKwin0qE (he starts talking about the consensus at 51:11 minutes)
Notice that in this meme I wrote that “when speaking in front of camera” because Yasir Qadhi did try to address this issue off camera. I've written about it in this comment.
Mods, can you clarify what kind of posts are allowed and what kind of posts are not allowed in this subreddit?
The pinned post by moderator u/tripidescent says:
>As the staff of r/TraditionalMuslims, we respect the opinions of others even if they are opinions that we may disagree with. We place emphasis on minority viewpoints** that may otherwise have their voices drowned out by the mainstream or otherwise censored, as we are a subreddit that acknowledges the value in those with different thoughts, beliefs, and attitudes from ourselves. We hope to promote an open dialogue by this, and to create a safe space where people feel comfortable in sharing alternate views. The staff at r/TraditionalMuslims encourages diversity of opinion so as to prevent an echo chamber of extremism from forming while also still allowing for civil public discourse. Everyone of every kind is allowed in our subreddit, and we hope for everyone to enjoy their time here in a kind, respectful, and peaceful manner. We simply ask you abide by our rules, and Reddit's policies.
The subreddit sidebar says this:
And yet my post was removed yesterday, with the mod comment saying:
>We don't allow any Islamic content from Yasir Qadhi on this subreddit.
I don't understand how my post violated the subreddit policy when mods themselves clearly say diversity of opinion is encouraged here and everyone of every kind is allowed in this subreddit. Then why does a post discussing the views of Yasir Qadhi get removed? Isn't this completely contradictory to what's written in the pinned post and sidebar?
And there is no rule in this subreddit that says contents from this and this scholar is not allowed, if you're gonna ban the viewpoints of certain scholars then write that in the sidebar like r/ MuslimLounge.
Another post of mine got removed in the past without any explanation, I sent the moderators a modmail requesting to explain the reason but nobody responded to it. So I am writing a post this time, hopefully you will explain to me how removing my post does not contradict with what's written in the pinned post.
Why Scholars Differ on Halloween: Halal, Haram, or Avoided? | The Fiqh of Celebrations
If you do not want to listen to the whole lecture, then read the text below:
Yasir Qadhi’s position on Halloween is that the issue is more nuanced than a simple halal/haram verdict. He begins by arguing that most ordinary Muslims are not qualified to independently weigh complex scholarly debates, just as a non-medical person cannot fully evaluate conflicting doctors. Therefore, people inevitably rely on scholars they trust, but they should remain humble and avoid attacking other interpretations.
He explains that there are two broad Muslim approaches: one that views Halloween as completely forbidden, often based on arguments about pagan origins, imitation of non-Muslims, and the idea that only Islamic festivals are permissible; and another group of Muslims who see modern Halloween as a largely cultural event involving children, costumes, and candy rather than a religious practice. He says both perspectives exist among Muslims in the West, and the disagreement reflects different understandings of culture, ritual, and religious identity.
The arguments used by those who argue against Halloween generally fall into three categories:
First, festivals outside the two Eids are impermissible
This view argues that celebrations are a form of religious ritual, and since Islam only legislated Eid al-Fitr and Eid al-Adha, other communal festivals should be avoided. Yasir Qadhi explains that this is largely based on the approach of Ibn Taymiyyah and those who view festivals as acts of worship. He disagrees that all non-religious cultural celebrations automatically fall under this category, arguing that many celebrations are cultural rather than religious.
He argues that not every celebration outside the two Eids is automatically haram. He distinguishes between three types of celebrations: private personal celebrations (such as birthdays, graduation parties, family gatherings), secular communal celebrations (such as national holidays, ie: July 4th, Thanksgiving), and religious celebrations of other faiths (such as Christmas or Diwali). He believes personal and secular cultural celebrations are generally permissible as long as they do not involve prohibited actions, while religious festivals that involve worship or religious symbolism should not be celebrated by Muslims.
Second, Halloween has pagan origins
Some argue that because Halloween originated from the Celtic pagan festival of Samhain, it should be forbidden. Regarding this argument, Yasir Qadhi says origins alone do not determine a ruling. What matters is the current meaning and intention behind the practice. He gives examples such as the names of days and months in English having pagan Roman origins, wedding rings having ancient non-Islamic origins, and mehndi traditions having Hindu roots, yet Muslims generally do not consider these things forbidden because their original religious meanings have disappeared. He argues that customs are judged by their present cultural significance, not only by their historical beginnings.
However, he says Halloween is more complicated because unlike something like Independence Day or Thanksgiving, it still retains some association in popular culture with ghosts, demons, spirits, and the supernatural. He argues that this makes Halloween different from ordinary secular holidays. Although modern Halloween is largely a commercial and cultural event shaped by candy companies, costumes, and entertainment industries, he believes the connection to the occult and the unseen world gives it a level of ambiguity.
Third, imitating non-Muslims (tashabbuh)
Yasir Qadhi argues that this concept is often misunderstood. He says Muslims are not forbidden from adopting everything that originated among non-Muslims; otherwise, language, clothing, technology, food, and many aspects of civilization would become impermissible. He says imitation becomes problematic when Muslims intentionally adopt symbols that represent another religion or worldview. He argues that modern Halloween is not a religious festival for most people, but the remaining association with supernatural themes is what makes it questionable.
His final conclusion is that Muslims should avoid actively participating in Halloween as a festival, because it has connotations to the horror. However, he strongly rejects calling Muslims who participate out of ignorance or because they see it as harmless family fun as committing shirk, kufr, or deserving harsh condemnation. He doesn’t declare Halloween outright haram, but he still advices Muslims not to participate in it because of it's horror elements. He puts Halloween in an ambiguous grey area, unlike other personal (Birthday, Graduation, anniversary etc) and secular communal (National holidays, independence day etc) festivals which he openly declared halal.
Sahih Bukhari And Sahih Muslim Are Not Authentic According to Hadith's Own Sciences
youtube.comSufi Orders Explained - Naqshbandi vs Qadiri vs Chishti
youtube.comবাংলাদেশ কি আবার সেই জেএমবির বোমাবাজির যুগে প্রবেশ করতে যাচ্ছে?
যাদের জন্ম ২০০০ বা এর আগে তাদের হয়তো সেই ২০০৫-০৬ সালের দিকের জঙ্গি জেএমবির সারাদেশে বোমাবাজির কথা মনে আছে। দুই দশক পরে আবারও দেশের বিভিন্ন স্থানে বোমা পাওয়া, পুলিশের ওপর জঙ্গিদের আক্রমণ এর মতো ঘটনাগুলো বেশ দুশ্চিন্তার জন্ম দিচ্ছে মনে।
তাহলে কি বাজার, শপিং মল এইসব জায়গা পরিহার করতে হবে এখন থেকে? আর যেকোনো উৎসবে তো মনে হয় যেতে গেলেই ভয় লাগবে এখন থেকে। কেন এদের হঠাৎ এভাবে পুনরুত্থান হলো?
Mustafa Kemal Atatürk may not have been a Quranist, but he paved the way for the Quran-only movement in Turkey
Mustafa Kemal Atatürk was not a Quranist himself, and I don't think there's any reason to pretend that he was. But whether he intended it or not, the transformation he carried out in Turkey created an environment in which Quranist thought could eventually emerge and develop.
When Atatürk established the Republic, he radically dismantled the old religious institutions. The caliphate was abolished in 1924, the madrasas and religious courts were closed, and the traditional religious establishment lost much of its institutional authority. At the same time, the new Republic placed religious affairs under the state through the Diyanet and pushed Turkey toward a modern, secular educational system.
But one of the most interesting parts of this transformation was the emphasis on making the Qur'an accessible to Turkish people in their own language. In the 1920s, the Republic commissioned a Turkish Qur'an translation and tafsir, and Turkish translations of the Qur'an became increasingly available. This was significant because it made it much easier for ordinary Turkish Muslims to engage directly with the Qur'an rather than relying exclusively on traditional Arabic-language scholarship and inherited religious institutions.
Atatürk obviously did not do this with the intention of creating Quranism. In fact, the official Qur'an commentary commissioned by the Republic was written by Elmalılı Hamdi Yazır, a traditional Sunni scholar. But the long-term consequence was that Turkey developed a population that was increasingly educated, literate and capable of engaging with the Qur'an directly in Turkish, while the traditional religious establishment no longer possessed the same authority it had under the Ottoman system. And several decades later, something very interesting happened.
In the 1970s, Hüseyin Atay emerged as one of the earliest major Turkish thinkers to argue for a much more Qur'an-centered understanding of Islam. He questioned the authority traditionally given to hadith, later scholarship and inherited jurisprudence, arguing for the centrality of the Qur'an and reason. He also produced his own Turkish Qur'an translation.
Then came Yaşar Nuri Öztürk, who was a student of Atay and helped take these ideas to a mass audience. His books and television appearances made Qur'an-centered reformism enormously popular in Turkey. He challenged many traditional interpretations and repeatedly emphasized returning to the Qur'an itself.
And eventually you get Edip Yüksel, who went further toward an explicitly Quran-only position. After encountering Rashad Khalifa's ideas in the 1980s, Yüksel rejected the authority of hadith altogether and became one of the most prominent advocates of the Qur'an Alone position.
Atatürk was not a Quranist. Atatürk wanted to secularize and modernize Turkey, but the intellectual space created by his revolution eventually gave birth to the the Quran-only movement that exists in Turkey today.
Have any of you ever been reprimanded for interacting with opposite gender freely?
The discussions in this subreddit mainly revolve around the clothing aspect of hijab (ie headscarf, abaya), however with the traditional understanding of hijab comes a lot of other restrictions too which affects both genders. Like being pressurized into keeping distance from the opposite gender, observing gender segregation, not getting to meet or play with your cousins of the opposite gender freely etc (the more conservative your family is, the more restrictions are put).
So have any of you ever been reprimanded for hanging out, joking or playing with your friends or cousins; or for merely having friends of the opposite gender?
[As a male, the clothing aspect of hijab doesn’t affect me that much like it does to you, but the strict gender segregation aspect of the traditional understanding of hijab affects me too, so I'm asking the question]
প্রেশারকুকারে থাকা বোমা নিষ্ক্রিয়, বিকট শব্দে কেঁপে উঠল এলাকা | Savar CTTC Operation | Prothom Alo
আবার কি সেই জেএমবি, আব্দুর রহমান, বাংলা ভাইদের যুগ ফিরে আসছে?
What are your thoughts on Pakistani Islamic scholar Javed Ahmed Ghamidi?
He has very unorthodox takes on a lot of subjects (like covering the hair isn't mandatory for women, there's no coming of Imam Mahdi & no second coming of Isa/Jesus AS, there's no death penalty for apostasy, no stoning for adultery, women can lead men in prayer and so on) and because of that he faces heavy criticism from the mainstream traditionalist ulama. What do you think of his views?
Muslim women in Bosnia used to veil themselves like this until 1950 when the communist Yugoslavian government banned the veil (zar and feredža). Today nobody in Bosnia wears this anymore, this outfit became a relic of the past, & even 3 decades after the collapse of Yugoslavia it wasn’t revived
Translation of the vocal narration:
Muslim sister, a young Muslim woman testifies, saying that she was offered, along with other young Muslim women, the opportunity to sign a resolution declaring it permissible for Muslim women in Bosnia and Herzegovina to remove the zar. And that the zar has nothing to do with Islam.
She says, “At the mere thought of signing it, the blood in my veins froze. Where would I, she says, sign it? And thereby betray Allah, the Almighty, and betray the religion of Islam?”
But today, we are quite often being told that the zar was imported, that it came from the Arabs in the last few years, and that someone imposed it upon our beautiful tradition, a tradition that supposedly had no memory of the zar and feredža.
Well then, what were our grandmothers? From which Arab country did they bring, or import, this custom of the zar and feredža? And they were not ashamed of it at the time. And rightly so, a grandmother can say that when communism came, and it became forbidden for a Muslim woman to cover her face when she went outside her home, they remained in their homes until their appointed time came.
She could rightfully come on the Day of Judgment and be asked, “So why did you squander that trust?” “I did not want to leave my home, so that I would not bring shame upon my family, nor my honor, nor my Islamic identity.”
And yet today those same granddaughters and great-granddaughters go out as they do, and follow the fashions of the West, which truly does not wish us well.
We must be capable of finding ways to preserve our tradition.
How do Hanafis address the sahih hadith where the Prophet (PBUH) says women should cover their feet?
According to the Hanafis, a woman's face, hands and feet are not considered to be awrah. However there is a Sahih hadith that narrates:
>It was narrated that Ibn 'Umar said: "The Messenger of Allah [SAW] said: 'Whoever drags his garment out of pride, Allah will not look at him.' Umm Salamah said: 'O Messenger of Allah, what should women do with their hems?' He said: 'Let it down a hand span.' She said: 'But then their feet will show.' He said: 'Let it down a forearm's length, but no more than that.'"
Source: Sunan an-Nasa'i 5336, Sunan an-Nasa'i 5338, Jami` at-Tirmidhi 1731
How do Hanafis address this hadith? I've been searching far and wide but can't find the answer anywhere.
Where do you place yourself on this spectrum of contemporary Islamic thought?
>Note on terminology: The labels "Revisionist" and "Pluralist / Radical Revisionist" are used in a descriptive and academic sense, referring to approaches that revisit, reinterpret, and expand traditional understandings of Islamic texts and jurisprudence. These terms are not intended as negative labels or to imply that these perspectives are less authentic or less Islamic; they simply describe different interpretive approaches.
Extremely Traditional/Conservative
Death penalty for apostasy: yes
Stoning for adultery: yes
Instrumental music: haram
Drawing living animals/humans and creating statues: haram (all forms of casual drawing prohibited, including stylized cartoons, silhouettes, stick figures, and incomplete figures with omitted facial features or body parts) | permitted only in cases of unavoidable necessity
Gender segregation: heavily required
Hijab: mandatory
LGBTQ:
Homosexual feelings: not sinful (but to be resisted)
Act of homosexuality (i.e. same-sex sexual relationships): haram
Punishment of homosexuality: death
Gender identities: rejected
Very conservative
Death penalty for apostasy: yes
Stoning for adultery: yes
Instrumental music: haram
Drawing living animals/humans and creating statues: haram (unless there is a genuine necessity or educational need) | Casual drawing prohibited; even stylized or incomplete figures, such as cartoons with omitted facial features or missing body parts, are avoided
Gender segregation: required
Hijab: mandatory
LGBTQ:
Homosexual feelings: not sinful (but to be resisted)
Act of homosexuality (i.e. same-sex sexual relationships): haram
Punishment of homosexuality: death penalty, or taʿzīr
Gender identities: rejected
Conservative
Death penalty for apostasy: yes
Stoning for adultery: yes
Instrumental music: haram (according to some only duff or drum allowed in casual nasheeds or songs, but other instruments are prohibited)
Drawing living animals/humans and creating statues: haram | However, casual drawing is permitted if rendered incomplete, e.g. omitting facial features, replacing eyes with Arabic letters, or drawing a head without a neck/body, as in the FreeQuranEducation YouTube channel animation style
Gender segregation: preferred
Hijab: mandatory
LGBTQ:
Homosexual feelings: not sinful
Act of homosexuality (i.e. same-sex sexual relationships): haram
Punishment of homosexuality: taʿzīr or death penalty
Gender identities: rejected
Moderate traditional
Death penalty for apostasy: no
Stoning for adultery: no
Instrumental music: halal
Drawing living animals/humans and creating statues: halal
Gender segregation: not necessary
Hijab: mandatory
LGBTQ:
Homosexual feelings: not sinful
Act of homosexuality (i.e. same-sex sexual relationships): haram
Punishment of homosexuality: none
Gender identities: transgender may be accepted under conditions; other gender identities are rejected
Contextualist
Death penalty for apostasy: no
Stoning for adultery: no
Instrumental music: halal
Drawing living animals/humans and creating statues: halal
Gender segregation: not necessary
Hijab: not mandatory
LGBTQ:
Homosexual feelings: not sinful
Act of homosexuality (i.e. same-sex sexual relationships): haram
Punishment of homosexuality: none
Gender identities: transgender could be accepted under conditions; other gender identities generally rejected
Revisionist
Death penalty for apostasy: no
Stoning for adultery: no
Instrumental music: halal
Drawing living animals/humans and creating statues: halal
Gender segregation: not necessary
Hijab: not mandatory
LGBTQ:
There are two possibilities. It's either,
1️⃣
Homosexual feelings: accepted
Act of homosexuality (i.e. same-sex sexual relationships): accepted
Punishment of homosexuality: none
⛔ Gender identities: only transgender accepted, other gender identities generally rejected ⛔
Or,
2️⃣
Homosexual feelings: accepted
⛔ Act of homosexuality (i.e. same-sex sexual relationships): not accepted ⛔
Punishment of homosexuality: none
Gender identities: all accepted (transgender, non binary, gender fluid, agender, bigender, trigender, pangender, xenogender etc)
Pluralist/Radical revisionist
Death penalty for apostasy: no
Stoning for adultery: no
Instrumental music: halal
Drawing living animals/humans and creating statues: halal
Gender segregation: not necessary
Hijab: not mandatory
LGBTQ:
Homosexual feelings: accepted
Act of homosexuality (i.e. same-sex sexual relationships): accepted
Punishment of homosexuality: none
Gender identities: all accepted (transgender, non binary, gender fluid, agender, bigender, trigender, pangender, xenogender etc)