I’ve been told that I’d be a good candidate for Marpe based on my poor sleep quality, mouth breathing, Tmj alignment, and forward head posture. Has anyone had this and noticed an improvement in their mental focus, sleep and most importantly breathing? I feel like I can’t think or breathe at all and I know my sleep is awful
Just the title: if CPAP is more likely to be prescribed by Sleep Doctor at home test or if it’s more likely to get approved by an in person sleep medicine appointment at UPenn, likely an at home sleep test.
Wondering if CPAP helped resolve these problems for anyone: I have a minor tongue tie and am being recommended MARPE to expand palate, and am trying to find a reason to avoid doing this.
Airway dentist explained to me that CPAP, MAD, or Fixing right nostril obstruction would be more of a temporary band aid than getting to the root cause the way that MARPE. Have been told I have poor tongue posture and scalloping/when I say “ah” my tongue dimples in the middle and can definitely see some restriction in tongue mobility but nothing crazy.
I’m starting to think that any doctor I go to just has a default of what they are used to providing for services and even though I mentioned could CPAP help, he said it wouldn’t treat the root cause but I’m clenching and having Tmj related issues due to airway issues and mouth breathing specifically.
If I can provide more breathing through mouth via CPAP doesn’t that fix excessive mouth breathing and clenching?
FYI 25 year old male 5,10” 185lbs who used to love going to gym, athletic but now feels out of breath due to throat/tongue issues, and def has minor speech issues. Don’t have health insurance
Summary: is CPAP worth trying before I commit to Marpe if I have muscular tmj, night time clenching, and airway dysfunction in nose and throat?
Wondering if CPAP helped resolve these problems for anyone: I have a minor tongue tie and am being recommended MARPE to expand palate, and am trying to find a reason to avoid doing this.
Airway dentist explained to me that CPAP, MAD, or Fixing right nostril obstruction would be more of a temporary band aid than getting to the root cause the way that MARPE. Have been told I have poor tongue posture and scalloping/when I say “ah” my tongue dimples in the middle and can definitely see some restriction in tongue mobility but nothing crazy.
I’m starting to think that any doctor I go to just has a default of what they are used to providing for services and even though I mentioned could CPAP help, he said it wouldn’t treat the root cause but I’m clenching and having Tmj related issues due to airway issues and mouth breathing specifically.
If I can provide more breathing through mouth via CPAP doesn’t that fix excessive mouth breathing and clenching?
FYI 25 year old male 5,10” 185lbs who used to love going to gym, athletic but now feels out of breath due to throat/tongue issues, and def has minor speech issues. Don’t have health insurance
Summary: is CPAP worth trying before I commit to Marpe if I have muscular tmj, night time clenching, and airway dysfunction in nose and throat?
Could I hypothetically avoid Getting Marpe and do a tongue tie release and CPAP and this is ultimately what treats my issue or is skeletal expansion in mouth absolutely the only thing that will help?
Is anyone able to see differences in breathing if your tongue gets stuck in airway and they cut the tie and use CPAP, or if tongue is pouring over teeth is this unlikely going to change without skeletal expansion?
This is going to be a big commitment for me and prefer not to go down this route but I just don’t get why this happened at age 25 above all else. I’m perfectly healthy, had braces 7 years ago and my teeth may have shifted when my posture worsened and neck got screwed up, but is orthodontics the only way out to fixing an airway problem, or can body adapt without them?
For reference tongue has been blocking airway at sleep, right nostril is collapsed, been feeling like I’m getting no sleep, had muscular Tmj symptoms that have died down but am starting to feel a poor airway in throat…
Have minor tongue restriction and temporalis tightness. Got referred to orthodontist after CBCT and Pictures taken of bite and Tmj eval… Wondering if anyone has had success. I believe palate inter molar width is at 35mm but my tongue is too big for my mouth
For reference tongue has been blocking airway at sleep, right nostril is collapsed, been feeling like I’m getting no sleep, had muscular Tmj symptoms that have died down but am starting to feel a poor airway in throat…
I have minor tongue restriction and temporalis tightness. Got referred to orthodontist after CBCT and Pictures taken of bite and Tmj eval… Wondering if anyone has had success. I believe palate inter molar width is at 35mm but my tongue is too big for my mouth
Hello, I’ve had FHP, upper jaw deficiency, poor tongue positioning blocking airway at night, terrible sleep study, and am wondering if Oscar patels theories could trump getting skeletal expansion from Marpe and orthodontics.
My dentist recommended orthodontics based on a through evaluation looking at airways, Tmj, head and neck positioning, tongue not having enough space in mouth, side profile of where teeth should be, severe clenching at night and tongue tie.
Hello, I’ve had FHP, upper jaw deficiency, poor tongue positioning blocking airway at night, terrible sleep study, and am wondering if Oscar patels theories could trump getting skeletal expansion from Marpe and orthodontics.
My dentist recommended orthodontics based on a through evaluation looking at airways, Tmj, head and neck positioning, tongue not having enough space in mouth, side profile of where teeth should be, severe clenching at night and tongue tie.
Wondering if anyone has successfully been able to treat muscular Tmj like symptoms, and facial tension as well as throat narrowing/limited breathing through throat airway.
And that they were able to figure out what to treat based on a sleep study?
What kind of sleep study and what doctor ordered it?
“Your nasal airway is your nose. You upper airway is the space behind your tongue. The back side of the nose is the top of the upper airway. The split between your trachea (to the lungs) and the esophagus (to your stomach) is the bottom of your upper airway.
When you are sleeping your tongue, jaw, and soft palate fall back and create a collapse of the upper airway.”
I’m still able to swallow talk and breathe somewhat well, still have complete range of jaw motion, but the tongue restriction and airway narrowing at my throat is troubling to me and I don’t know how to stop it, especially when these are issues worsening at night, and potentially from clenching. I’ve been consulting an airway dentist, but am wondering what treatments have worked for anyone else with this problem?
What night guards have helped if clenching is part of keeping the cycle alive?
The further I get down this rabbit hole the more I realize that all of my facial, jaw and muscles affected in Tmj areas are uncomfortable because of my inability to breathe correctly, so how do u fix this completely to breathe properly and get muscles all working in conjunction with one another?
Is my jaw misaligned too? I can’t tell if it’s just bad breathing, tense jaw muscles because they’re out of alignment with traps/neck and they’re just feeding off of one another in a cycle?
Has anyone who’s been through this hell found a way to fix breathing issues? Frankly my jaw range of motion and tight muscles I’m fine with because I’m starting to realize this is secondary, so if anyone can help me fix the breathing and forward head posture that I feel like may be at the root cause, please advise because I’m at my wits end and quite frankly, severely depressed.
The further I get down this rabbit hole the more I realize that all of my facial, jaw and muscles affected in Tmj areas are uncomfortable because of my inability to breathe correctly, so how do u fix this completely to breathe properly and get muscles all working in conjunction with one another?
Is my jaw misaligned too? I can’t tell if it’s just bad breathing, tense jaw muscles because they’re out of alignment with traps/neck and they’re just feeding off of one another in a cycle?
Has anyone who’s been through this hell found a way to fix breathing issues? Frankly my jaw range of motion and tight muscles I’m fine with because I’m starting to realize this is secondary, so if anyone can help me fix the breathing and forward head posture that I feel like may be at the root cause, please advise because I’m at my wits end and quite frankly, severely depressed.
The further I get down this rabbit hole the more I realize that all of my facial, jaw and muscles affected in Tmj areas are uncomfortable because of my inability to breathe correctly, so how do u fix this completely to breathe properly and get muscles all working in conjunction with one another?
Is my jaw misaligned too? I can’t tell if it’s just bad breathing, tense jaw muscles because they’re out of alignment with traps/neck and they’re just feeding off of one another in a cycle?
Has anyone who’s been through this hell found a way to fix breathing issues? Frankly my jaw range of motion and tight muscles I’m fine with because I’m starting to realize this is secondary, so if anyone can help me fix the breathing and forward head posture that I feel like may be at the root cause, please advise because I’m at my wits end and quite frankly, severely depressed.
The further I get down this rabbit hole the more I realize that all of my facial, jaw and muscles affected in Tmj areas are uncomfortable because of my inability to breathe correctly, so how do u fix this completely to breathe properly and get muscles all working in conjunction with one another?
Is my jaw misaligned too? I can’t tell if it’s just bad breathing, tense jaw muscles because they’re out of alignment with traps/neck and they’re just feeding off of one another in a cycle?
Has anyone who’s been through this hell found a way to fix breathing issues? Frankly my jaw range of motion and tight muscles I’m fine with because I’m starting to realize this is secondary, so if anyone can help me fix the breathing and forward head posture that I feel like may be at the root cause, please advise because I’m at my wits end and quite frankly, severely depressed.
The further I get down this rabbit hole the more I realize that all of my facial, jaw and muscles affected in Tmj areas are uncomfortable because of my inability to breathe correctly, so how do u fix this completely to breathe properly and get muscles all working in conjunction with one another?
Is my jaw misaligned too? I can’t tell if it’s just bad breathing, tense jaw muscles because they’re out of alignment with traps/neck and they’re just feeding off of one another in a cycle?
Has anyone who’s been through this hell found a way to fix breathing issues? Frankly my jaw range of motion and tight muscles I’m fine with because I’m starting to realize this is secondary, so if anyone can help me fix the breathing and forward head posture that I feel like may be at the root cause, please advise because I’m at my wits end and quite frankly, severely depressed.
Any success with muscular Tmj with bpc-157, forward head posture and breathing dysfunction?
Has anyone been able to confirm that they have physical issues ( ie jaw or neck tension or dysfunction) solely because of anxiety. I have no faith in mind body connection, especially when I can feel that my breathing is off because of it. I’ve been going to multiple specialists and dentists trying to figure out what the hell to do, but I’m 25 years old and just want to focus on career and am getting easily discouraged because it’s very easy for me to tell what’s wrong when it’s wrong and I highly doubt anxiety is causing jaw tension, and if it is I’ve clenched for years with no symptoms until now