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Valence cannot use his energy beams, just fist fight.

In the video above, Stormtrooper that is around 30 meters away, fires blasters, that crosses that distance in, and I measured, 2 frames. That is less than 0.067 of a second. That is clearly supersonic even visually. And this is not some special scene; there are countless scenes where blasters look like this, or much faster, in Rouge One, Andor and so forth.

Hell here Crosshairs sniper crosses miles in fraction of second, making escaping ship look frozen in comparasion, moving at high hypersonic speed even visaully, same blaster was deflected by kid Caleb after it was fired at close range.

What does all of this mean? Blasters move visually at incosistent speeds, so to see their rael speed, it is better to look to lore and what it says about their speed. When we do we see that it is very clear that blasters are meant to be enormously fast. Furthermore, Matt Martin is one of main editors of SW canon, and he says that he thinks they are light speed as well.

They are, at the very least, faster than hypersonic slugs/bullets, and that is if you ignore many statments in lore in universe or out of universe calling them light speed. The idea that blasters, which replaced slugs and are weapons of level 2 civilization( while we are level 0) are slower than medieval arrows contradicts:

1. Many feats where they are shown much faster, like I posted
2. Lore
3. Intent from writers/editors.
4. Common sense

Grozz can throw very large boulder many meters away , here are some images to see sheer scale of it , given its size, it would have mass around as much as a truck, yet Wookie easily lifts it over his head and threw it many meters away into the group he was targeting. How does he do against Wrecker?

They fire solid projectile using magnetism to propel it, and said proejctile is coated in plasma. Here above we see saber deflect it, but it does not seem to be sent back, it seems like it just vaporizes the projectile.

That was said in canon novel. Now one might normally call this hyperbole but there is evidence to back it up.

Vader orders Admiral Piett to fire directly at him with all turbo lasers of super star destoryer, Piett refuses saying everything would be vaporized, but Vader chokes him in orbit while being on surface to force him to do it, Piett then does it, yet yet Vader easily shields himself and Sabe from such firepower , here is artist author who drew it confirming it.

Vader has also defeated world overrun by droids that have gone rogue for many decades, and constnatly upgrated themselves, to point they became 1000 times stornger than any security droid and too strong for Empire to defeat conventionally with military, while Vader easily beat them by himself . Granted this might more so apply to ground forces and TIE fighters rather than capital ships, but it gets the message across.

Valence in 2020 run, under Ethan Sacks, after his upgrades by Vader, was a beast; he, as can be seen above, rips and heavily bends around a 10 cm thick durasteel safe hunger door, he also one shot Boskk,   bltized and one shot Dengar, several gammorean guards cannot budge him, easily punches through armored Stormtrooper destroying his torso, he completely blitzed Deathstick, super fast bounty hunter, he even ragdolled Durge, who broke some huge stone pillars using his sheer grip strength , he easily destroyed army of robots, destroyed and no sold building busting explosion. He even seemigly, after its edges were cut out, bent piece of armor of Megadroid, seperatist superweapon that was lightsaber proof and said that few of them could have changed outcome of war.

So how woul he do vs Qimir?

We have seen elite Wookies(ones stornger than average Wookie) throw boulder that would roughly have mass of a truck( gif above) and tear thick durasteel apart like paper:

>“Won’t be long before we’ve got stormtroopers all over this bridge,” he says. “We need to take control of this bridge and lock it down, but first that means we gotta find a way to get these binders off—” Chewie yawps, then bares his teeth as he wrenches his arms apart. The shackles snap like they were made of brittle candy instead of steel. “That works,” Solo says.
Aftermath: Life Debt.

>Wookiee had abandoned trying to rewire the panel and now had both hands wedged in the seam of the door to the stairwell. He roared again, louder, and the door suddenly broke apart with a gratifying sound of rending metal. Chewie looked at him, satisfied. “Yes, you’re very strong—go!"
Smugglers run.
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Are they stronger than KX Droids?

We have seen elite Wookies throw boulder as heavy as truck many meters away( gif 1) and we have seen them tear durasteel like paper as well:

>“Won’t be long before we’ve got stormtroopers all over this bridge,” he says. “We need to take control of this bridge and lock it down, but first that means we gotta find a way to get these binders off—” Chewie yawps, then bares his teeth as he wrenches his arms apart. The shackles snap like they were made of brittle candy instead of steel. “That works,” Solo says.
Aftermath: Life Debt.

>Wookiee had abandoned trying to rewire the panel and now had both hands wedged in the seam of the door to the stairwell. He roared again, louder, and the door suddenly broke apart with a gratifying sound of rending metal. Chewie looked at him, satisfied. “Yes, you’re very strong—go!"
Smugglers run.

But KX droids have number of good feats as well. So who wins in brawl/fist fight?

Vader easily did just that while destroying some bounty hunters. He deflects her flamethrower blast with a casual saber swing, then casually pushes her hard enough that she nearly instantly dies/breaks her neck.

Pickle form Baki is caveman as well, but he has much better feat than Suppon, he lifted and tore in half filled truck, stopped charging triceratops and easily lifted it, stopped stomp from 33 ton superasurus, ripped massive steel door, has FTE bullet timing feats, and so forth. Would it be same diff or harder?

Shroud is force user that lead dark side cult, he fought young 23 year old Mace and was his dark side rival. His best feat is, with force amped physical strength, lifting large space ship over his head like Superman, ship that had mass of hundreds of tons, after first tanking it falling on him and later tanking the explosion of said ship too. Where would you put him in terms of ROTS rankigns?

Vader fought and stomped army, on far away planet, while Sidious was on Death Star, Sidious them teleported there in front of Vader, they had extended fight, in which Sidious won, struck him with his lightning, and established his superiority.

Scan 1: Second Sister is hit by close range explosion form Mantis cannons, epicenter was maybe meter or so from her, explosion hits her but she easily tanks it, as scan 2 shows, she is standing unharmed, while Cal,who was further away, and was hit by shockwave, not explosion itself is on ground struggling to get up

Scan 3: Second Sister runs too fast for early game Cal to even see her, and would have killed him there if not for BD1. Note: This Cal already had feats like easily deflecting rockets at close range, and powerful blaster minigun that likely fires over 100 shots in a second( 166 in EU), meaning she would have to run much fater than any of that.

Scan 4: Second Sister ragdolls early game Cal and pushes him hard enough to destory barrier many meters tall and wide made of steel pipes, impact also seemingly wrecked the concrete above.

Scan 5: Esaily holds herself with one arm onto Mantis while using force to make it violently spin in the air by messing with controls/wheel.

There will be much more feats to post as Survivor manga voluems keep comming out and I get them.

Can he destory city, or mountain? If yes or no, where would you put his busting tier?