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After Massie's loss in part due to enormous spending by pro-Israel lobbies/billionaires, do you think Citizens United that allowed it is good as matter of policy?

We can put aside if it is legally sound decision for a moment, do you think the decision by Chief Justice Roberts that allows this is good as a matter of policy, or would an amendment to overturn the Supreme Court, at least to an extent( not fully, position government took in case seems to be absurd and on the other extreme), be proper?

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I wonder how reliable is fact that ancient Sith's in canon like Darth Ravi and Darth Quellus were force gods?

Apparently, Darth Ravi TKed a moon sized puzzle/gate and Darth Quellus blotted out a star, according to stories that are, for what its worth, never said to be legends or false:

>“What are you doing?” said Rorric despairingly.

>“Back on Aaloth, we have a tradition,” said Fanya as she worked. “At this time of year, everyone carries a suutu pouch like this one, filled with moss.”

>“A suutu-what?” hissed Rorric. “Need I remind you that there’s at least ten stormtroopers bearing down on us as we speak? That the transport leaves in an hour, and I’m still bleeding from this blaster wound? We really don’t have time for you to take a minute to harvest a pouch full of moss because of some tradition.”

>Fanya carried on as if she hadn’t heard his objections. “Aaloth is a Twi’lek colony, settled in the old days, long before the rise of the Republic, when the Sith empire still claimed dominion over scores of worlds.

>“Now, the Twi’leks of Aaloth knew all too well that the evil things of this galaxy find comfort in darkness and that they are at their most vulnerable when there is light. And so, in the depths of the darkest midwinters, they would light great bonfires to ward off the long nights and keep their people safe.

>“These bonfires burned for weeks on end and surrounded their villages with protective light, and the people smiled, safe in the knowledge that the evil things would never emerge from the shadows there on Aaloth, not while the flames still burned to keep them at bay.

>“It worked, too, and for hundreds of years, both the Sith and their terrible minions gave the planet a wide berth, and the Twi’leks were left to carry on with their lives without dread or fear. Always, though, when winter came and the nights drew in, did they light their fires to guard their homes, for they knew that it was this and this alone that kept the darkness from their doors.”

>"Yes, yes. It’s a nice story, Fanya. But the stormtroopers…”

>Fanya continued her careful scraping: scritch-scratchscritch-scratch.

>“But one day, the Sith grew bold, for their empire had spread far and wide, and with it, a cloak of darkness that had fallen across many worlds, plunging the galaxy into an era of perpetual night.

>“So it was that they sent an emissary to Aaloth, a powerful Sith Lord named Darth Quellus, who—so strong was he in the dark side of the Force—banished the light of the bonfires with a single wave of his gauntleted hand.

>“With the flames extinguished, the villages had no protection against the creatures of the night, which, encouraged by the Sith—for all the things that lurk in darkness share a terrible kinship—came out of the shadows to terrorize the Twi’lek people.

>“Soon the colony was overrun, and Darth Quellus and his followers had seized control, proclaiming Aaloth another foothold of their great and terrible Sith empire.

>“At first the Twi’leks, whose spirits remained unbroken despite the occupation, tried to keep the flames alive, smuggling candles into their homes and lighting them at night, protecting their homesteads from the terrors that lurked outside. For a time, this worked, until Darth Quellus came to know of it—for there were those even among the Twi’leks who thought to side with their new masters and inform on their kin in the hope of gaining safety, respect, and power. But that is not the way of the Sith, and these traitors soon learned the costs of doing business with the dark side.

>“So incensed was Darth Quellus that he searched the homes of the villagers and sought out all of their candles. Then, drawing deep on his accursed powers, he blighted the candles to only burn black, spreading night whenever they were lit. All light was prohibited, and even the glow of the sun was muted. The colony was plunged into darkness, both literal and spiritual.
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u/BlockAffectionate413 — 2 days ago

Debunking myth that Vader does not abuse force in fights

There is this myth that I have noticed that Vader does not abuse force in fights, which is simply not true. I will start by just listing some, out of many, examples of Vader opening with force, that is, of his first attack against that particular enemy being TK.

Here Vader explodes Lyleks, attacking him into pieces with TK:

>Vader extended a gloved hand and loosed a blast of power that blew apart two of the lyleks rushing toward him, showering those behind with gore and chunks of carapace.   - Lords of the Sith, Chapter Sixteen, Page 366
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Then he does the same to more:

>Vader called on the Force, leapt, and propelled himself up to the mouth of the tunnel. Deez and the captain had both taken a knee, blaster rifles planted on their shoulders as they fired into the lyleks trying to advance down the tunnel toward them. Vader casually loosed a blast of power down the tunnel mouth, destroying the leading lyleks and pushing half a dozen more backward.   - Lords of the Sith, Chapter Sixteen, Page 369
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Here, Vader releases a TK wave that filled circumference of the cave, shattering the stalagmites and breaking the bodies of over 20 Lyleks:

>He fell deeply into the Force and loosed a wave of power from his outstretched hand that filled the circumference of the tunnel. The blast slammed into the charging horde, cracking exoskeletons, shattering stalagmites, and driving a score or more of the lyleks in the lead backward in a shower of broken bodies and broken stone. They squealed and chittered and flailed, and the lyleks following after scrambled over the fallen and wounded, their eyes fixed on Vader.     - Lords of the Sith, Chapter Fourteen, Page 341
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Vader lifts Lylek and sends it flying through trees, killing it:

>Vader raised his hand, seized one of the leading lyleks with the Force, and flung it sideways into the trees. It struck a tree trunk as thick around as a man, and its ridged, spiked carapace cracked open, leaving it squirming helplessly at the base of the tree.   - Lords of the Sith, Chapter Fourteen, Page 330

Note: Lyleks are 4-5 meter tall monsters whose armor can tank blaster fire, and who are strong enough to rip people to pieces with their arms.

>Lio grunted, and Jecki moved slowly away from the lylek even as mercenaries fled. But the lylek grabbed at them, pouncing several meters at a time. It got a man in its pincers and ripped him apart.

When Vader attacks the Knights of Ren, the very first thing he does is force crush one Knight to death, even though the Knights are force users:

https://preview.redd.it/nfh8r0rui22h1.jpg?width=1041&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=0fef1ec7fe65765e2aa759be5da44a02bfca4be1

Vader one shots bioweapon monster by crushing its neck with force:

https://preview.redd.it/26zcnjfdl22h1.jpg?width=667&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=2c1e3ed6a620370cf2f93f7846ec8918de8f2720

Vader one-shots Wampa by crushing its neck:

https://preview.redd.it/wllpyxjql22h1.jpg?width=1244&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=16d035bc0ce6b02b2cb088fd3968d39beb678322

Vader one-shots Lava Flea by telekinetically pimp-smacking it:

https://preview.redd.it/1k4rcr38m22h1.jpg?width=1988&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=47a38474d7117926be09ccc9f9f11c6422ad2f22

Note: Lava Flea is a large monster that is strong enough to destroy durasteel gates of Vader's castle and large boulders by slamming into them, yet it was easily one-shot with force by Vader:

https://preview.redd.it/q920t1xpm22h1.png?width=3187&format=png&auto=webp&s=2f67b5ed8b53057737cbeaa5c593928365e1ac38

Vader starts a "fight" with Cal by casually ragdolling and force-choking him:

https://i.redd.it/dhz6hrx5k22h1.gif

First time Ezra attacks him, Vader responds by ragdolling him, pinning him down with TK, and then toying with him by slowly moving his own arm toward his neck to kill him:

https://i.redd.it/6a0ehjgqk22h1.gif

When Cere attacks him in Fallen Order, Vader csaully thows her into lava below:

Vader defeats Valance, superhuman cyborg, by pinning him to the ground with force, while he did use lightsaber and force to deflect his previous attacks, this is the first attack of his own that he threw:

https://preview.redd.it/v2x0x0ytc32h1.png?width=4683&format=png&auto=webp&s=424240a83ba5e64cd2a1e2e7a2e57e50f7e91533

Enoosha, force user, attacks Vader, who instantly defeats her with TK:

>Enoosha screamed a third time and swept her blaster from her hip. Still running, she opened fire, pumping bolt after bolt into Vader’s form; her aim was perfect, but each bolt shorted out in a shower of sparks against Vader’s outstretched hand. That hand curled into a fist as Enoosha’s blaster was pulled out of her grip, and then she was yanked forward in an invisible, intangible vise, her feet leaving the floor as she hurtled through the air toward him. Then she stopped, the sudden deceleration whipping her head, arms, and legs forward as Vader suspended her body in front of him. He looked up at her as he slowly rotated her in the air, as if she were a specimen to be studied.

Vader freezes two Inquisitors in place so that they cannot move a finger, then makes them kill each other like puppets:

https://preview.redd.it/ii933gpuu22h1.jpg?width=1041&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=3c3a4de074a509bbf615b898e802a1eb8880f5ee

One shots Royal Guards trying to fight him:

https://preview.redd.it/1gpj8b2jw22h1.jpg?width=1041&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=9c2d8cf0eab722f39f32abb4f379d8636bb75010

Attacks Royal Guards by casually breaking their necks

Vader kills a group of Rebels when they attack him by crushing the massive fortified wall they are on to pieces:

https://preview.redd.it/2vrqz7p4s22h1.jpg?width=1249&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=5e15f62a6a6f832e9710c9c36a1d8c3183d30368

He then kills other Rebels by chiking them to death:

https://preview.redd.it/bnusiodhs22h1.jpg?width=1168&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=e39a9af6c104e83c84bd638ca93f0c3bc7d4b59a

When Luke, Chewbie, Han and others attack him, Vader easily instantly knocks them all out with TK while holding back:

https://preview.redd.it/v9bc8ik8t22h1.png?width=2838&format=png&auto=webp&s=40b437386b57b8d3b7a4576a95d976c41eec61d0

Note: Vader was hit by powerful EMP before, and his suit was smoking and turning off, so he had trouble even standing, he needed to hit himself with electricity again to negate effects of EMP, but even so he did this.

When attacked by bounty hunter Sear with a flamethrower, Vader first deflects her fire, and then his first attack on her involves him casually force blasting her hard enough to instantly kill her:

https://preview.redd.it/ef9htlnkj22h1.png?width=3122&format=png&auto=webp&s=0882588cbabec83231761ba11a0ce7556d760153

Twi’lek shoots at Vader, who casually deflects blasts, lifts and chokes him into air, deflects his blasts while choking him at same time all casually, and then smashes him to death:

>A hatch on the far side of the hall slid open to reveal a purple-skinned Twi’lek man in makeshift armor. Seeing Vader, the Twi’lek’s head-tails twitched, his eyes widened in surprise, and he grabbed for the blaster at his belt. By the time the Twi’lek had the blaster drawn and the trigger pulled, Vader had his lightsaber in hand and ignited. He deflected the blaster shot into the wall, raised his off hand, and with it reached out with the Force. He made a pincer motion with his two fingers, using the Force to squeeze closed the Twi’lek’s trachea.  

>The Twi’lek pawed frantically at his throat as Vader’s power lifted him off the deck, but to his credit he held on to his weapon, and gagging, dying, he managed to aim and fire his blaster at Vader again and again. Vader simply held his grip on the alien’s throat while casually deflecting the blasts into the bulkhead with his lightsaber. Then, not wanting to waste time, he moved his raised hand left and then right, using the Force to smash the Twi’lek into the bulkhead. The impacts shattered bone, and Vader let the body fall to the deck. A voice carried over a comlink on the Twi’lek’s belt. - Lords of the Sith, Chapter One, 32

Chokes to death Mustafarian knight

When attacked by Rebel spies, Vader ragdolls and breaks their necks while deflecting their fire at the same time:

https://preview.redd.it/ygwbsnokn22h1.jpg?width=1561&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=daf1f19cbb54964453e995d6df808bfecadd7dac

Kills large group of soldiers with TK

Vader blitzes through and kills Rebels with TK, even turning one guy's head around 180 degrees:

https://preview.redd.it/8l6n1707q22h1.jpg?width=1249&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=8fe5696f198c875585d6df1423ef4f94e918e2f8

one shots group of Crimson Dawn soldiers with TK

Vader blows away the massive durasteel gate of the Rebel stronghold then kills Rebels by throwing objects into them and by lifting and restraining one in air before slamming him to death:

https://i.redd.it/mwwnov7lr22h1.gif

Vader pins the Rebel onto ceeling so that he cannot move a muscle and then kills him:

https://i.redd.it/ibb8pltyt22h1.gif

Telekinetically kills another Rebel attacking him:

https://i.redd.it/9jkrbo7au22h1.gif

Vader takes out a small army of Droids by tearing and exploding them to pieces, never touching any of them:

>There was a gasp from down on the main floor of the bridge—it sounded like Enoosha—and then a murmur began to grow among the clone troopers. Keel’s head snapped around as the holoimage showed Vader advancing on the B1 battle droids, his lightsaber flashing and flaring as he began to deflect the barrage of blaster bolts from the ship’s security force. “These actions are not within predicted parameters.” Keel’s blank eyes stared as the scene from deeper in the ship was relayed to the bridge. Not only were some of the battle droids being felled by their own reflected blaster bolts, but others were being torn to pieces by… By nothing at all. Vader by now had waded directly into the middle of the phalanx, and the droids, like swarming insects, rushed in and surrounded him. For a moment, Vader vanished in the scrum. And then the droids exploded, shattering into a thousand flaming fragments as Vader emerged, arms outstretched, from the center. He stood, lightsaber buzzing, as the remaining droids became little more than scrap metal, and he hadn’t touched any of them.

>Keel’s mouth opened as whatever remained of his human mind trapped inside the cyborg implant managed to express his surprise. Below, the clones actually cheered and clapped. A couple of their B1 guards prodded them with their blasters and ordered them to be silent, but most of the other battle droids on the bridge were actually standing transfixed by the sight of their fellows being utterly destroyed by a single man. The two standing at the front by the forward viewports actually looked at each other in alarm, and one of them began to shake in fear. On the other side of the bridge, Enoosha was standing, the horror clear on her face as she witnessed the power of Vader. Beside her, in the chair, Ziroon was also watching, but her expression was one of anger and hate. She pushed herself up from the chair, her fists curled in front of her. “This is no man,” she yelled. “This is a monster! It must be destroyed!” She looked up at the command platform, her finger pointing at the holoimage that now showed Vader standing motionless as Goth and the clone trooper cautiously stepped out of cover and looked at the carnage around them. “You have to destroy it! Send more droids! Kill it!” Oyuka, her eyes wide with fear of her own, turned to Keel. “Your plan doesn’t have a hope. We can’t kill him. Look at what he’s done!” She looked at the holoprojection. “We don’t stand a chance against him. He’s going to kill us all.”

Vader kills Cyn's group with force:

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ragdolls soldier and snaps his neck

Takes out Leias bodyguards by choking them to death

crushes enemy by hiting him with boulder

Even though I posted alredy over 30 feats of his first attack against enemy that defeats them being TK, he has many more such feats.

There are also many instances where even if he did not start with TK, he used it seconds into fight like when his second attack against cyborg Rancor was trying to crush its neck, only not working becaue this was not normal Rancor, it was much larger cyborg made by Cylo, the best scientist with the Empire, who had to place plates of unknown material( likely Beskar) in place where neck was in order for Rancor to resist casual force crush by Vader.

Conclusion:

Yes, Vader will very much abuse force in fights. The idea that he forgets he has powerful TK and just uses sword instead, is simply not true.There are countless instances where he has abused force, both from the very start and very early on, seconds into fight, even when he did not start with it. When Vader does not abuse force reason is almost always that:

  1. He is figthing powerful force user who can defend against it

  2. He knows exactly how strong they are so he is toying with his enemy

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u/BlockAffectionate413 — 3 days ago

Darth Vader orders Admiral Piett to fire all turbo lasers of super star destroyer directly at him and shields from the blast

When I first read this comic, I always wondered how the hell did tank Vader and Sabe were in survive direct hit from Super Star Destroyer with only bits of it melted? Star Destroyers make nukes look like firecrackers, no way tank can help against that, and indeed even Piett himself said everything would be vaporized. Well it turned out, artist mentioned, like one would expect, Vader used force to largely shield said tank he and Sabe were in.

One of the best feats in canon.

u/BlockAffectionate413 — 4 days ago

Suiryu gets shot by Boba Fett's vaporizing blaster, what is damage?

Let us say Suiryu did not dodge and was shot. Blaster can vaporize a normal person as well as a 1-meter-thick durasteel wall of a bunker. How much damage would Suiryu suffer?

u/BlockAffectionate413 — 4 days ago

Other than Vader, who are force users you think can do this?

Vader when his suit was turned off by son of man who helped make it, so he was unable to move finger, proceeds to slaughter whole group with just thoughts, by puppetering chainsaw guy to chop his friends, choking others, turning fire blasting machiens against them, even ragdolling their ship, most with no line of sight at all. Which other characters do you think have this level of mastery of force?

u/BlockAffectionate413 — 7 days ago

Anyone else miss books by Paul S. Kemp?

Especially force user books, his style of writing them and figths just seem to be so engaging and natural to me. And of course, Lords of the Sith is one of my favorite SW books. Shame he has not done any other SW books since.

u/BlockAffectionate413 — 8 days ago

Who wins this, team or Nyan?

Team : Suiryu, Choze, and human form Gale Wind, 3 demon level guys

vs

Nyan(dragon, but far from storngest dragon)

u/BlockAffectionate413 — 10 days ago

Did Kylo Ren get a power boost here?

So in images 1-2, force sensitive Hutt bodyguad, casually one shots Kylo and calls him weak.

In image 3 Kylo is trapped in prison and chained

In image 4 Kylo, after reciving prep talk by Vader( or what he imagines to be Vader), blows up whole building and chains into dust

In image 5 he then casually slaughters Krayt Dragon with just his bare hands/force

In imge 6 we see that he this time killed Hutt and presumably her bodyguard, while he was stomepd before.

In other words, did Kylo recive huge power boost after TLJ due to prep talk from Vader?

u/BlockAffectionate413 — 10 days ago

Vader toyed with massively amped Koth

I honestly thought this was common knowledge by now, but to my surprise, some people still try to argue that fight was somehow anything but that. First, let us establish that Koth is massively amped by dark side, Vader himselfs makes note of that, stating that Koth is more powerful not only than he ever was as a jedi, but then he ever would become as Jedi:

https://preview.redd.it/tpmj8q7x0p0h1.jpg?width=828&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f34c86e3a4df77910228d97b9407270dea69da72

This is further backed by narrator himself in the novelization, saying the same thing:

https://preview.redd.it/oi55qgo81p0h1.jpg?width=828&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=945a898d1c1dba87ac2c67acf80c073b3044de7e

It is also backed by wider canon; Cal Kestis, for example, per developers, goes up 10 levels when he taps into dark side, going from being overpowered by Bode, to ragdolling him:

https://comicvine.gamespot.com/forums/gen-discussion-1/js-cal-goes-up-10-levels-daganbode-scaling-new-inf-2332529/

Likewise, Vos, with the Dark Side, went from being weaker than Ventress to beating Dooku. It is very consistent that tapping into the dark side is not a small but an enormous power boost that puts you several tiers above your base self.

Now on to the next piece of context, Vader was toying with Koth the entire time:

https://preview.redd.it/ae5891kn1p0h1.jpg?width=828&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=3366b8a4602eb9e93e046f7bcd263967b2e5189b

Some have said that the novel is contradicted by the comic in this regard, but it is anything but. In the comic itself, pretty early on in the fight, after two clashed just few times, Vader blasts Koth with force and makes him scream in pain:

https://preview.redd.it/dn5y1xat1p0h1.jpg?width=828&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a9a23a8734b0429bc54e8ef14682f8fce0871e3b

Vader then, quite literally, turns around and has a conversation with the Inquisitors while Koth is on the ground, weaponless, still not recovered from that push:

https://preview.redd.it/t1wys8i02p0h1.jpg?width=828&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=5c2e434bf3a55df70e116d521208fa906fa085b5

Vader could, if he wanted, have easily killed him then and there instead of turning around and having a conversation with Inquisitors, as Koth was weaponless and defenseless, on the the ground; instead, Vader chose to allow Koth to get his weapon and get up. Why? Because of course, as novel notes, he was playing with him for fun. He did not want Koth to die yet. Even when you just look at comic itself that is quite clear, after all, that is only rason for Vader not to strike Koth when he was down and defensless. Fact that Vader turned around and had a conversation instead mid fight, shows us just how unserious he was taking Koth. So Vader continues to play with Koth, using one hand even, which Koth dodges here:

https://preview.redd.it/zyq6wysf2p0h1.jpg?width=609&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=c671340f63ce81054c1ba81d065e50d0829ab864

Koth then barely glazes his helmet but does not land any actual hits, as Vader's helmet is later shown as not having even a screech on it:

https://preview.redd.it/0h7p0com2p0h1.jpg?width=486&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=90439aed094e1d275f90ad95ef4881d87964c7a8

Koth then tries to stab Vader, but Vader easily dodges:

https://preview.redd.it/khdu813q2p0h1.jpg?width=641&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=6f253198f90f39fafa70d3d6dd735bfd49e644b4

And then Vader casually chokes him mid-fight, showing he can ragdoll him at will:

https://preview.redd.it/ctcmy1ws2p0h1.jpg?width=410&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=efcac1b7a0c5f338886ecb3a246068e900f228f3

But, again, Vader does not choose to kill him here, he lets him go from the choke because he still did not want to kill him just yet.

We then cut to the final panel in which Koth looks beaten to rags, as the scene novel is describing. Some have pointed to this panel as being evidence of Vader being pressed. As evidence, they claim his arm is supposedly “disabled” which, to be frank, is a meme-tier argument. It’s just the way the comic art is drawn. The official description of this panel is “The man had been nearly beaten to rags, while Vader looked as he always did, timeless and inevitable in gleaming plasteel and leather.”

https://preview.redd.it/kzvevm2z2p0h1.jpg?width=828&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f64996f35ae0c26bccae6d02c3665b1ca71145fe

Vader then finally shows him his family taken out, and kills him then, because he wanted Koth to see his family be taken out first. So in short:

  1. Koth was much more powerful then he ever was as a Jedi, per both Vader and the narrator in novel, which is consistent with wider canon.
  2. Vader drove Koth back in a duel, and then, early on, after just clashing with Koth a few times, blasted him with force with ease, making Koth scream in pain and putting him down for an extended period of time, to the point that Vader could turn around, hear report and give orders, hving entire conversation, while Koth was still down, weaponless and defensless. Vader could easily have killed him then and there if he wanted, but he did not want to do so, not yet
  3. The reason he did not want to kill him yet is that Vader was playing with him for fun, as confirmed both in comic itself, given what I said above, and in novel by narrator personally. Vader did not want to kill him untill Koth saw his family captured
  4. Vader easily choked Koth at will, mid-fight, before releasing him, as he did not want him dead quite yet, showing ability to ragdoll him whenever he felt like it.
  5. Koth did not land even a single clean hit on Vader, Vader did not have even a scratch on his armor, while Koth was beaten to rags

In short, early Vader toyed with massively amped Koth, in very objectively low-diff fight that Vader could have ended much sooner had he wanted to, but he did not. Koth for comparasion has , even without dark side, could have beaten early CW Grevious:

https://preview.redd.it/ek0ykosz9p0h1.jpg?width=580&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=d5a782fb21024e5a12623710c4cd0465cfbc6ae5

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u/BlockAffectionate413 — 10 days ago