I'm tired of being told to enjoy being alone.

When you're single and/or friendless, everyone says "take a solo trip! Learn to be alone! Date yourself!" Well what if that's been most of my life and I'm exhausted by it?

I'm 27F and I am not afraid to be alone. I am SO tired of it. I am lonely. I miss the sanity of human companionship. I'm tired of getting on planes alone and not getting the full experience of a new place because I have nobody with shared history to share memories with. I'm tired of going to concerts alone, to local events alone. I felt worse and worse doing it, so I stopped.

I've had to build my entire adulthood without a partner, without the stability of companionship, without a consistent witness to my life. My desire for connection never disappeared, I've just had to sustain the chronic stress of living without it. I feel like a prisoner in constant fight or flight. Yes, I've been to therapy for years. It hasn't helped with this.

For two years after college, I went to 20 countries solo before getting diagnosed with an autoimmune disease. I went to concerts alone. I met people in hostels, I put myself out there. It is NOT the same as having someone from your actual life doing life with you. Those connections never became lasting or deep.

I feel chronic connection deprivation, and I think it has done real damage. I'm stuck living at home with a parent, in a job threatened by layoffs, with medical bills, and my day-to-day is staring at a screen during work and then having nobody to talk to after work.

My ex years back who had a million friends and a full social life told me: "Stop trying for friends. Learn to be okay with being alone." When he dumped me, I went traveling alone. Something he has never done. At first I tried to make it fun. Slowly, with each trip, I felt worse. It's not the same without people.

I've been chronically unwell with Lyme and autoimmune issues for years and need a fresh start somewhere new. I can't grow where I am. I've developed agoraphobia. I'm so burned out on solo travel that I can't even bring myself to buy a plane ticket. Me, the girl who's flown to four continents alone. "Third places" are more conducive to connection, sure, but not when you're miserable in the place you live and don't want roots there. In my hometown, the streets are encoded with the memory of my isolation. Everything is a reminder of what was never here for me. But I have no connection anywhere else, and moving away to sit in an apartment alone makes me cringe too.

Lonely people get stuck in a negative feedback loop that becomes harder to break the further into your 20s you get. Other people can read it off you too. I feel a bone-aching grief.

There is no single friendship I could make now that makes up for the isolation I've endured. I will always carry the weight of these years. There is a partial permanence to this that makes it hard to feel hopeful. I'm struggling to accept that I've missed fundamental developmental windows it's a suffocating realization. It's a form of existential grief, mourning a socially connected version of my 20s that every human being deserves and that I didn't get to have.

That loss is a permanent part of my timeline, and it has left a massive scar.

How do I accept a life of lack when I am not built this way?

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u/myviewfromoutside — 1 day ago

AI & Entry-Level Job Erasure

I just need to vent (thanks in advance for reading) because I feel like I’m losing my mind (and my future) and shouting into a void.

For multiple years out of college, I did exactly what everyone told me to do. I treated the job search like a grueling, unpaid 80-hour-a-week gig. I customized resumes, networked, cold outreached, built portfolios, bypassed the broken ATS algorithms, and sent out literally over four thousand applications (while temping, working contracts without benefits and multiple service gigs) just to land my current entry-level role in white-collar operations. Finally, health insurance. I could breathe for a moment. I thought the worst was behind me. I thought once I got my foot in the door, worked hard, and proved my execution skills after someone gave me a chance, I’d have a path to climb.

Instead, the bottom rungs of the ladder are completely evaporating, my grip is slipping and I'm staring at an even darker abyss than when I graduated college.

We aren’t even just talking about basic data entry anymore. In marketing, finops, tech, and strategy-level roles, companies are deploying autonomous workflows and LLMs to handle all the foundational tasks that junior employees used to cut their teeth on. Campaign builds, competitive research, report drafting, financial anomaly detection, code debugging, first-pass strategy decks. Yes, it's happening, it’s all being handed over to a prompt, and this is what I'm being tasked with now as I prepare my AI agent for deployment.

Entry-level job postings in the US plummeted by 35% over an 18-month period, driven largely by companies automating junior tasks. Additionally, a recent Stanford University analysis revealed that workers aged 22–25 in AI-exposed fields experienced a 13% relative decline in employment, even while older, more senior executives in the same sectors saw gains. In a recent LinkedIn executive survey, 63% of executives openly admitted that AI would replace at least some of the work traditionally done by entry-level employees. Are we all supposed to be entrepreneurs now? Is everything I do supposed to be monetized for survival? Can we all possibly be tradespeople, including the disabled? How will the world fare with an entire generation of young people, in one of the richest countries of the world, losing the very jobs and entry-level roles that modern history has dictated a rite of passage?

The corporate logic is so short-sighted. If you replace all the junior execution and strategy tasks with AI, how are entry-level workers supposed to gain the experience needed to become senior managers or executives themselves?

I feel trapped. I did everything right, did well in school, internships, nonstop job history, certifications, optimize my productivity to infinity, survived the brutal post-college application gauntlet, and now I’m watching the entire landscape of work shift into high level, executive skeleton-crew operations where human entry-level roles are treated as an expensive redundancy. What's even scarier is, this just happened to one of my family members, only 2 years before his planned retirement. He's now working an entry level service job just to get the bills paid. If this is happening to our seniors, what's going to happen to us young adults?

Is anyone else dealing with this right now? Are you seeing people stuck applying to "entry-level" roles that suddenly evaporate? How are we supposed to survive a career trajectory when the starting line keeps getting deleted?

How are my recent grads (2021-2026) doing?

u/myviewfromoutside — 2 days ago

Company hired a new VP last week who is already AI'ing my role

My direct manager goes on leave soon and the company just brought in a brand-new VP.

Today has been an absolute nightmare. This morning, the new VP hit me up demanding a step-by-step breakdown of my "workflow" for a report I manage daily. While I was drafting a basic response to him trying to explain this manual process without sounding defensive, a different manager who works directly with the CEO pulled me into a separate project: they want me to send over all my historical call-listening notes because they are running a program with Claude to automate my exact tracking tasks this week.

I feel completely iced out, blindsided, and deeply disrespected. They are using my direct manager’s exit and a VP to audit my daily tasks, demand my historical data logs, and try to build a prompt to phase out my labor. It feels like a coordinated corporate ambush to pick my brain for data before pulling the rug out from under me. I have been relegated to these manual tasks and removed from context that would further enable more strategizing or analysis. I am the lowest rung, but I use AI and save tons of time too. My workload has actually increased with manual labor as I use AI for other tasks (it's like been a snowballing role erosion as I automate more, I take on more).

Has anyone else survived a company weaponizing your own data logs against you to test "AI efficiency"? Am I crazy for thinking they are setting up to replace me the second my manager walks out the door? How should I play defense here while they run this pilot? Is there any chance I am not being let go if I have been feeling this way for months?

They are now auditing my work versus AI as we speak.

I'm really grateful for the experience I've gained being that it's such a crappy job market, but I'm feeling so trapped and hopeless with AI automating entry level work. Yes, I am aware that my tasks are easily automated. I have been relegated to these tasks and removed from context that would further enable more strategizing or analysis, this was my first corporate job. I am the lowest rung. Applying to jobs everyday. Getting an interview is so hard and I've had my resume optimized repeatedly. If this were 2022 I'd have been able to take the hint already. 

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u/myviewfromoutside — 2 days ago

Company hired a new VP last week who is already AI'ing my role

My direct manager goes on leave soon and the company just brought in a brand-new VP.

Today has been an absolute nightmare. This morning, the new VP hit me up demanding a step-by-step breakdown of my "workflow" for a report I manage daily. While I was drafting a basic response to him trying to explain this manual process without sounding defensive, a different manager who works directly with the CEO pulled me into a separate project: they want me to send over all my historical call-listening notes because they are running a program with Claude to automate my exact tracking tasks this week.

I feel completely iced out, blindsided, and deeply disrespected. They are using my direct manager’s exit and a VP to audit my daily tasks, demand my historical data logs, and try to build a prompt to phase out my labor. It feels like a coordinated corporate ambush to pick my brain for data before pulling the rug out from under me. I have been relegated to these manual tasks and removed from context that would further enable more strategizing or analysis. I am the lowest rung, but I use AI and save tons of time too. My workload has actually increased with manual labor as I use AI for other tasks (it's like been a snowballing role erosion as I automate more, I take on more).

Has anyone else survived a company weaponizing your own data logs against you to test "AI efficiency"? Am I crazy for thinking they are setting up to replace me the second my manager walks out the door? How should I play defense here while they run this pilot? Is there any chance I am not being let go if I have been feeling this way for months?

They are now auditing my work versus AI as we speak.

I'm really grateful for the experience I've gained being that it's such a crappy job market, but I'm feeling so trapped and hopeless with AI automating entry level work. Yes, I am aware that my tasks are easily automated. I have been relegated to these tasks and removed from context that would further enable more strategizing or analysis, this was my first corporate job. I am the lowest rung. Applying to jobs everyday. Getting an interview is so hard and I've had my resume optimized repeatedly. If this were 2022 I'd have been able to take the hint already. 

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u/myviewfromoutside — 2 days ago

Company hired a new VP last week who is already AI'ing my role

My direct manager goes on leave soon and the company just brought in a brand-new VP.

Today has been an absolute nightmare. This morning, the new VP hit me up demanding a step-by-step breakdown of my "workflow" for a report I manage daily. While I was drafting a basic response to him trying to explain this manual process without sounding defensive, a different manager who works directly with the CEO pulled me into a separate project: they want me to send over all my historical call-listening notes because they are running a program with Claude to automate my exact tracking tasks this week.

I feel completely iced out, blindsided, and deeply disrespected. They are using my direct manager’s exit and a VP to audit my daily tasks, demand my historical data logs, and try to build a prompt to phase out my labor. It feels like a coordinated corporate ambush to pick my brain for data before pulling the rug out from under me. I have been relegated to these manual tasks and removed from context that would further enable more strategizing or analysis. I am the lowest rung, but I use AI and save tons of time too. My workload has actually increased with manual labor as I use AI for other tasks (it's like been a snowballing role erosion).

Has anyone else survived a company weaponizing your own data logs against you to test "AI efficiency"? Am I crazy for thinking they are setting up to replace me the second my manager walks out the door? How should I play defense here while they run this pilot? Is there any chance I am not being let go if I have been feeling this way for months?

I'm really grateful for the experience I've gained being that it's such a crappy job market, but I'm feeling so trapped and hopeless with AI automating entry level work. Yes, I am aware that my tasks are easily automated. I have been relegated to these tasks and removed from context that would further enable more strategizing or analysis, this was my first corporate job. I am the lowest rung. Applying to jobs everyday. Getting an interview is so hard and I've had my resume optimized repeatedly. If this were 2022 I'd have been able to take the hint already. 

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u/myviewfromoutside — 2 days ago

Anyone else entry level corporate also being replaced by AI?

I work as an entry level coordinator at a firm managing a massive portfolio of accounts. Honestly, the day-to-day usually feels like being the "clean-up crew" doing the grunt, manual data-entry work that multiple client success managers dump on me, but I help keep the infrastructure running.

My direct manager goes on leave soon and the company just brought in a brand-new VP.

Today has been an absolute nightmare. This morning, the new VP hit me up demanding a step-by-step breakdown of my "workflow" for a report I manage daily. While I was drafting a basic response to him trying to explain this manual process without sounding defensive, a different manager who works directly with the CEO pulled me into a separate project: they want me to send over all my historical call-listening notes because they are running a program with Claude to automate my exact tracking tasks this week.

I feel completely iced out, blindsided, and deeply disrespected. They are using my direct manager’s exit and a VP to audit my daily tasks, demand my historical data logs, and try to build a prompt to phase out my labor. It feels like a coordinated corporate ambush to pick my brain for data before pulling the rug out from under me.

Has anyone else survived a company weaponizing your own data logs against you to test "AI efficiency"? Am I crazy for thinking they are setting up to replace me the second my manager walks out the door? How should I play defense here while they run this pilot? Is there any chance I am not being let go if I have been feeling this way for months?

I'm really grateful for the experience I've gained being that it's such a crappy job market, but I'm feeling so trapped and hopeless with AI automating entry level work. Yes, I am aware that my tasks are easily automated. I have been relegated to these tasks and removed from context that would further enable more strategizing or analysis, this was my first corporate job. I am the lowest rung.

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u/myviewfromoutside — 2 days ago
▲ 136 r/Layoffs

Company hired a new VP last week who is already AI'ing my role

I work as an entry level coordinator at a firm managing a massive portfolio of accounts. Honestly, the day-to-day usually feels like being the "clean-up crew" doing the grunt, manual data-entry work that multiple client success managers dump on me, but I help keep the infrastructure running.

My direct manager goes on leave soon and the company just brought in a brand-new VP.

Today has been an absolute nightmare. This morning, the new VP hit me up demanding a step-by-step breakdown of my "workflow" for a report I manage daily. While I was drafting a basic response to him trying to explain this manual process without sounding defensive, a different manager who works directly with the CEO pulled me into a separate project: they want me to send over all my historical call-listening notes because they are running a program with Claude to automate my exact tracking tasks this week.

I feel completely iced out, blindsided, and deeply disrespected. They are using my direct manager’s exit and a VP to audit my daily tasks, demand my historical data logs, and try to build a prompt to phase out my labor. It feels like a coordinated corporate ambush to pick my brain for data before pulling the rug out from under me.

Has anyone else survived a company weaponizing your own data logs against you to test "AI efficiency"? Am I crazy for thinking they are setting up to replace me the second my manager walks out the door? How should I play defense here while they run this pilot? Is there any chance I am not being let go if I have been feeling this way for months?

I'm really grateful for the experience I've gained being that it's such a crappy job market, but I'm feeling so trapped and hopeless with AI automating entry level work. Yes, I am aware that my tasks are easily automated. I have been relegated to these tasks and removed from context that would further enable more strategizing or analysis, this was my first corporate job. I am the lowest rung.

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u/myviewfromoutside — 2 days ago

dubai as a solo female traveler, late 20s?

hi, im planning on doing a trip to egypt and jordan and wanted to piggy back a dubai trip on top of it on the way home. the company i am looking at egypt with has a 5-day, 2.5k USD extension to dubai but i feel i can do better price wise alone than with a tour group. how feasible is dubai for a well-traveled woman in her late 20s? i would be solo, and usually in other countries ive met people to explore places with thru hostels. is there any hostel or tour guide community in dubai where someone in my age range would be ok going alone?

thanks in advance.

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u/myviewfromoutside — 3 days ago

Appreciation Post for Bernardini, son of A.P. Indy

Golden Tempo does it again, taking the Belmont Stakes to follow his Kentucky Derby victory! It’s the second year in a row that the Belmont was won by a Derby winner who skipped the Preakness (Sovereignty accomplished the feat last year). Golden Tempo is by Curlin out of the Bernardini mare Carrumba, and Bernardini mares are in the pedigree of three big winners on Belmont Stakes Day.

The G1 Woody Stephens was won by Englishman, whose sire Maxfield is out of the Bernardini mare Velvety. And Nysos won the G1 Met Mile; he’s out of the Bernardini mare Zetta Z. Met Mile runner-up Knightsbridge is also out of a Bernardini mare. Both horses in that Met Mile exacta are by Nyquist, a great-grandson of Storm Cat.

Bernardini, pictured here, was a son of A.P. Indy and earned the 2006 Eclipse Award as champion 3-year-old male. He's really making a name for himself as a broodmare sire!

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u/myviewfromoutside — 4 days ago

one-third of US men are not working or trying to find a job

According to Labor Department data, about one-third of US men are not working or trying to find a job. If you set aside the early days of the Covid-19 pandemic, that’s the lowest labor force participation since 1948.

Retirees and young men in school account for a lot of that, but there’s also been a decline in industries traditionally dominated by men, like mining, manufacturing, and transportation, per The Washington Post.

According to an analysis by University of Michigan economics professor Betsey Stevenson, the US economy created 369,000 jobs between January 2025 and March 2026, and 94% of those jobs went to women, driven by hiring in healthcare and private education. 

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u/myviewfromoutside — 9 days ago

open discussion: one-third of US men are not working or trying to find a job

Discussion: We need to be concerned with our young men and boys.

According to Labor Department data, about one-third of US men are not working or trying to find a job. If you set aside the early days of the Covid-19 pandemic, that’s the lowest labor force participation since 1948.

Retirees and young men in school account for a lot of that, but there’s also been a decline in industries traditionally dominated by men, like mining, manufacturing, and transportation, per The Washington Post.

According to an analysis by University of Michigan economics professor Betsey Stevenson, the US economy created 369,000 jobs between January 2025 and March 2026, and 94% of those jobs went to women, driven by hiring in healthcare and private education. This is a huge problem for everyone.

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u/myviewfromoutside — 9 days ago
▲ 21 r/Wigs

wigs look so fake on me and i feel hopeless with alopecia - why is there always a big poof up top? i am a size large measurements

is this actually a sign its too small! — the wig isn’t WIDE enough to cover my skull and existing hair? it seems like the surface area of the part line is not wide enough at the top - my ear to ear measurements are nearly larger than a large + i still have some hair left underneath.

looking for advice im so depressed.

u/myviewfromoutside — 11 days ago
▲ 58 r/OlderGenZ+1 crossposts

if nobody's getting married, how come everyone i know is getting married or engaged at by/before age 26 in a major US metro?

according to ai the stats are

Single rates 46% of Gen Z are currently without a partner, compared to only 28% of millennials. That's a massive gap even between adjacent generations. Newsweek

Marriage Just 4% of women and 2% of men born in 1998 have married before age 25, compared to 60% of women and 41% of men born in 1960. The floor fell out completely for your cohort specifically. marriage foundation

does this track with anyone else? literally every other post on IG is an engagement or a wedding of one of my high school / college peers. i feel so behind being single in my late 20s

u/myviewfromoutside — 14 days ago

ladies in our late 20s - where are we buying clothes?

i haven't bought clothes since my early-mid 20s. yikes, i know. i got chronically ill for a few years and now i am attempting to be back in society again. problem is, i'm not 22 anymore and i don't feel right wearing the shein crop tops at 27.

where are we going for our staples? fav brands?

looking to buy:

  • new office clothing / corporate casual
  • everyday basics
  • a couple night out fits
  • a few bikinis

thanks in advance!! <3

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u/myviewfromoutside — 14 days ago

is Wonderskin a scam?

so, long story short, i'd been getting emails from them for weeks after leaving the foundation in my cart. they sent me 20-30% off codes, none of which worked. they sent me cash back in my cart, and i finally decided to buy.... now i'm just reading how gimmicky this brand is..... should i be worried? how bad are their products, truly? i bought the foundation and another product and got a free lip stain....... it was still over $50...

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u/myviewfromoutside — 16 days ago
▲ 0 r/Makeup

is Wonderskin a scam?

so, long story short, i'd been getting emails from them for weeks after leaving the foundation in my cart. they sent me 20-30% off codes, none of which worked. they sent me cash back in my cart, and i finally decided to buy.... now i'm just reading how gimmicky this brand is..... should i be worried? how bad are their products, truly? i bought the foundation and another product and got a free lip stain....... it was still over $50...

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u/myviewfromoutside — 16 days ago

Why is a person I blocked on FB months prior still able to comment under my posts?

GROUP posts and anon group posts

dealing with a stalker here

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u/myviewfromoutside — 23 days ago
▲ 1 r/Makeup

Looking for Wonderskin foundation that matches Neutrogena's "Natural Ivory" makeup tone?

I'm torn between Wonderskin's Muse (Neutral) or Haze (Fair Cool) if I have some red / yellowy undertone but I am fair? My skin gets red in the sun etc. I did the Wonderskin foundation match quiz but they told me Muse and it seems a lot darker than Natural Ivory 20 from Neutrogena?

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u/myviewfromoutside — 25 days ago

Looking for Wonderskin foundation that matches Neutrogena's "Natural Ivory" makeup tone?

I'm torn between Wonderskin's Muse (Neutral) or Haze (Fair Cool) if I have some red / yellowy undertone but I am fair? My skin gets red in the sun etc. I did the Wonderskin foundation match quiz but they told me Muse and it seems a lot darker than Natural Ivory 20 from Neutrogena?

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u/myviewfromoutside — 25 days ago

Single women are buying more houses. The men they are dating are not responding well

Female home owners report feeling stuck between men’s contradictory expectations – they are told to be independent, but not assume the breadwinner role

When Tiffany Tate put the wheels in motion to buy her first home, it felt like a win – until a date’s response stopped her cold.

“If you buy that house, what’s a guy going to do for you?” he said. It was just after their first date, and just before what would be their last.

Tiffany, then 29, had just ended a long-term relationship and moved from her home town of Winston-Salem to Charlotte for a new job at a career development center. She had just joined Match.com and was starting to dip her toe into the Charlotte dating scene. Her date, previously promising, was clearly struggling to understand why she would want a serious relationship if she was going to buy her own home.

Tiffany was thrown. “I was like, ‘I don’t understand the question.’”

With all the speculation over declining marital and birthrates in the US*,* a disconnect between men and women’s expectations of heterosexual relationships is coming into focus. While 31% of gen Z men agree that “a wife should always obey her husband”, young women rank career satisfaction and financial independence as their top personal priorities.

“It was pretty jarring,” Tiffany said of that date. “Why would me buying a house be a deterrent for a guy? Wouldn’t that be a positive? He went from seeming really nice to kind of aggressive. Like, ‘Good luck finding somebody as good as me when you’re Miss Independent.’”

While theories like the 6-6-6 rule have gained popularity in the manosphere – claiming that women are only interested in dating men who are 6ft tall with six-pack abs and six-figure incomes – in actuality, many women are facing the fallout of being financially independent.

Stories like Tiffany’s have emerged across women’s whisper networks, support groups and on social media in recent years, as single women across the US continue to surpass their male counterparts in rates of homebuying. According to the National Association of Realtors (NAR) 2025 profile of homebuyers and sellers, single women now make up 25% of US first-time homebuyers, more than twice the percentage of single men (10%).

Despite earning less than men on average, NAR’s 2025 data show that single women report a greater willingness to make financial sacrifices to prioritize their homebuying goals: 41% reported spending less on entertainment, vacations, clothing and other non-essential goods, compared with 31% of single men.

“There’s more women who just aren’t waiting on a spouse in order to achieve their life goals,” said Daryl Fairweather, the author of Hate the Game: Economic Cheat Codes For Life, Love and Work and chief economist at the real estate website Redfin.

“Home ownership right now is pretty unattainable,” added Fairweather – even more so as a single person compared with dual income households, especially as prices and interest rates rise. “I think there is also an urge to buy a home earlier,” she said, suggesting women may be prioritizing their window of financial opportunity in a competitive market over waiting for milestones such as marriage.

“I’ve always wanted to have equity, especially because I’m a single Black woman,” a woman, whom I’ll call Tonya, told me. “I wanted to make sure that I have something to lean on.”

Tonya, who wanted to be anonymous because of the backlash she experienced while pursuing her ownership goals, moved to San Francisco in 2021 to accept a faculty position at the University of California, San Francisco. Given the historic rise in Bay Area rental prices, Tonya considered home ownership an investment. She wasn’t in a serious relationship, but she didn’t want to wait for one to prioritize her financial future. “I just wanted to make sure that there was something in my name,” she said.

Tonya was 36 when she closed on her condo, and before long, she experienced friction in her love life. She would go on a few dates, and everything would be going well. “And then they find out,” said Tonya.

It wasn’t just that men lost interest when they found out she owned her own place – it also seemed to trigger combativeness, even hostility, in them. “I feel like it immediately puts men on the defensive, so they start talking about their own finances and what they’re able to do.”

It wasn’t Tonya’s first time managing the discomfort her achievements elicited in prospective partners. She had already learned to downplay her successes as a professional woman working in the sciences. “As soon as I tell people I’m a scientist, they shut down or they start talking about what they’re doing.”

But she had hoped things might play out differently after being set up with someone through a mutual acquaintance. “He was mature. He was in his late 40s, so in a position where there wasn’t time to just play around. I felt he was someone I could talk to.”

When he arrived at her condo to visit, things unfolded in a painfully familiar way. “It was a nice building and I think that really threw him off,” she recalled. “He was like, ‘Oh, the rent must be crazy here.’ And I was like, ‘No I actually own it. I thought I told you that.’ The energy shifted immediately.

“I could feel his male ego kicking in, like, ‘I can provide too*,’*” Tonya remembered. She tried to reassure him, clarifying that she did not expect a man to take care of her and that she wanted to build something together. But things only escalated from there. “He was just being volatile and angry over mild things,” she said. When she voiced her opinion, he would call her needy or ask her point blank: “Do you want to be the husband in the relationship now?”

For women caught in between these contradictory claims – labeled both too independent and not independent enough – heterosexual dating and relationships can start to feel futile.

“The options are small to begin with, so they tell you to be open minded,” said Tonya, citing popular red-pill claims that women are only interested in hypergamy, or “dating up”. “But then the men don’t take that very well,” she said, referring to her experiences dating men with comparatively fewer financial resources. “They view it as you trying to emasculate them, even when you specifically say, ‘No, that’s not what I’m trying to do.’”

For men, however, women’s home ownership may be signaling something else entirely.

“My research suggests men can experience more psychological distress when they feel they are deviating from the breadwinner role,” said Dr Joanna Syrda, an economist whose 2019 paper found that men’s stress levels rise when their wives earn more than 40% of the household income. “So the issue may be less home ownership itself than what it symbolizes,” she added.

Men in couples where women earned more money at the start of the marriage did not report heightened levels of stress. This means “these responses are unlikely to be universal […] some men are quite comfortable with a higher-earning or more financially established female partner when this is known from the outset”, she said.

Yet in Tonya and Tiffany’s stories, the revelation came early on. I asked Dr Y Joel Wong, a counseling psychology professor at Indiana University who studies the psychology of men and masculinities, what might be driving men’s responses to single women’s growing independence.

One core feature of masculinities that can lead to problems “is a fear or avoidance of femininity”, he said. Some research has found that men feel an urge to restore their manhood when they feel they may be identified with stereotypical femininity: “So if women are more successful economically, then it’s almost like, ‘I have lost a little bit of my manhood*.’*”

A growing body of data shows that men engage in higher rates of infidelity and emotional and physical abuse when outpaced by female partners in traditional markers of wealth and status such as income.

Dr Jennie Young is a professor of rhetoric who popularized the Burned Haystack Method, which consists of analyzing how men communicate on dating apps. Young feels this is connected to how people view gender roles; many women seek partnership with men still unwilling to trade in the traditional “provider” identity to meet them there.

“It’s interesting because the same gender group that’s constantly complaining about how women are gold diggers who exploit them for labor and money … It turns out even they [men] can’t think of what they bring to the table other than money,” she observed.

It was as recently as 1974 that the Equal Credit Opportunity Act passed in the US, making it illegal for lenders to discriminate against credit applicants on the basis of protected characteristics like sex and marital status. Many of the single women taking out mortgages today were raised by women who couldn’t do the same.

When women couldn’t have their own bank accounts, earn meaningful amounts of their own money, or obtain credit in their own name, they were largely dependent on men for access to money, property and personal financial security. “You took on a certain amount of risk and even trauma from men in order to be provided for,” said Young.

“We’ve been living in a world whose social, political and economic mechanisms have been dependent upon women’s willingness to self-sacrifice,” Young said. But now that women can claim their own piece of the American dream without having to make the same trade-offs as their predecessors, *“*a lot of men really don’t know what to do,” she said.

 “Sometimes on dating apps, men will have in their profile little comments about what they’re not looking for – like ‘don’t swipe if you’re an independent woman or if you’re not feminine.’”

Even in early conversations, she has learned to be wary when men address her with “preconceived notions about their level in relation to you. Like, ‘hey, big money’, or ‘boss lady’,” she said.

She recently deleted all of her dating apps after coming to the conclusion that her time and energy is better spent elsewhere.

“Where is the pool of men who are self-sufficient and like to read, are willing to go to therapy and are not afraid of a woman who has a passport? That sounds really wild to say out loud, but I don’t feel like I’m missing a ton by choosing to read a book instead of swiping on Hinge.”

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