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I don't know why I was hoping that Bravo would put more bang in the 20th anniversary, especially leading up to the 20th season premiere....because they've done nothing that special to really hype up this season or anniversary. Maybe they're leaving it all for UGT?

I was expecting a new intro, a special shot promo like we used to get for shows, various photo shoots, having old cast members reunite and do promo.

I've seen the film. I gave it a 6.5.....7/10. I didn't downright hate it or love it.

But my biggest gripe with this film outside of cinematography was the costuming and style choices presented to us throughout said film.

There was zero inspiration taken with this one. Anna B. Sheppard has done Maleficent, Captain America TFA, Inglorious Bastards, Spiderman FFH, so especially doing a mythic piece such as Maleficent, I was hoping she would deliver something otherworldly but she did not.

The Kryptonians are just in basic white/beige drapes all the while wearing what look like sneakers.

Rutheye is in a jacket you can find at Kohls and gloried looking uggs. Lacking her interesting headpiece.

Karas spaceoutfit when she is sent off to Earth ......is very 70s "futuristic" but just aesthetically pleasing. Especially when coming from a society that is supposed to be far more advanced than Earth

Seeing a lot of thought pieces on how "right leaning" or "maga" leaning Bravo is today compared to the "goldenyears" and I am sad to say......Bravo isnt any different today than it was 10 or 20 years ago in regards to who they hire or what they cancel.

Reality TV did not rise in popularity because it was something that safe. It was messy, it was problematic and that is exactly what has kept it going all these years.

Southern Charm started in 2014, it cast a certain Thomas Ravenel who was very republican. very sexist. likely racist. Half of the men hooked up with Kathryn who was 22 at the time.

Vanderpump Rules birthed Stassi. Just as they birthed Jax. Birthed James Kennedy. Both were terrible to those around them, especially women. Kristen let it be known about what she experienced dating James.

Below Deck has spent majority of its time on tv rotating around crew members hooking up. The men often being very misogynistic.

We had Mar tina was a known transphobe on RHOM. Caroline Stanbury was connected to Epstein and Prince Andrew. AnneMarie was republican and a transphobe. Ramona/Luann/Brandi/Nene/Marlo/Theresa/Joe G/Candiace/Kathy Hilton have all been accused of problematic behavior.

RHOBH continued to film Taylor and Russell Armstrong despite the claims of him being a domestic abuser.

Bravo has canceled a lot of fan fave shows that didn't go on that long:

• RHOM after 3 seasons.
• Mexican Dynasties, NYC Prep, RHODC, Gallery Girls, MDLM after 1 season
• Its a Brad Brad Brad World, Blood Sweat and Heels, Marthas Vinyard after 2 seasons

And out of ALLLLLLLLLL of those 20 years of programming....only 15 shows have survived past 5 seasons before getting canceled. Only 14 are 10 seasons and ongoing. Only 2 are at 5/6 seasons and everything else is 4 or below.

All of this to say: Bravo hasn't changed that much, some have just outgrown Bravo and the people that they put on shows and will continue to put on shows. Just as they will continue to make VERY STUPID programming decisions such as putting Ladies of London (the best show this year), RHOM, MV, and more on ice.

I went down a rabbit to round up most of the news of various Housewives salaries throughout the years.

Of course, I did not cover EVERY single HW there was, even some big ones because im lazy like that. Some are straight from the HWs mouths themselves, others are from lawsuits/divorces, and others are from radaronline so take them all for whatever you want.

Tamra

Tamra Judge

$350k for Season 7 Source

$600k for Season 12 Source

$1.2m for Season 14 Source

Vicki

Vicki Gunvalson

$0 for Season 1 via IG

$35k for Season 2 Source

$450k for Season 7 Source

$750k for Season 12 Source

$1million for Season 13 Source

Kelly

Kelly Dodd

$175k for Season 12 Source

Shannon

Shannon Beador

$583,338 for season 13 Source

Gina

Gina Kirschensietheireai

$63k for Season 13 Source

Gretchen

Gretchen Rossi

$300k for Season 7 Source

Alexis

Alexis Bellino

$200k for Season 7 Source

Heather

Heather Dubrow

$30k for Season 7 Source

Jen

Jen P

$150k for Season 18 Source

I went down a rabbit to round up most of the news of various Housewives salaries throughout the years.

Of course, I did not cover EVERY single HW there was, even some big ones because im lazy like that. Some are straight from the HWs mouths themselves, others are from lawsuits/divorces, and others are from radaronline so take them all for whatever you want.

Before you scroll down...be warned...RHOP is very empty as I could barely find any information on them because they're the most tight lipped cast.

RHOC

RHOC

Tamra Judge

$350k for Season 7 Source

$600k for Season 12 Source

$1.2m for Season 14 Source

Vicki Gunvalson

$0 for Season 1 via IG

$35k for Season 2 Source

$450k for Season 7 Source

$750k for Season 12 Source

$1million for Season 13 Source

Kelly Dodd

$175k for Season 12 Source

Shannon Beador

$583,338 for season 13 Source

Gina Kirschensietheireai

$63k for Season 13 Source

Gretchen Rossi

$300k for Season 7 Source

Alexis Bellino

$200k for Season 7 Source

Heather Dubrow

$30k for Season 7 Source

Jen P

$150k for Season 18 Source

RHOA

RHOA

Nene Leakes

$15k for Season 1 Source

$50k for season 2 Source

$150k for Season 3 Source

$2.75million for Season 12 Source

Shamari Devoe

$250k for Season 10 Source

Marlo Hampton

$275,000 in Season 11 to $300,000 for Season 12. Source

Eva Marcille

$250,000 for Season 11 Source

$275,000 for season 12 Source

Kenya Moore

$1.5 Million for Season 10 Source

$500k for Season 12 Source

Porsha Williams

$1.25million for Season 11 Source

$1.3 million for Season 12 Source

Cynthia Bailey

$1.75 million for Season 11 Source

$1.8 million for Season 12 Source

Drew Sidora

$380K for Season 16 Source

 $456K for Season 17 Source

RHONY

RHONY

Bethenny Frankel

$7250 for Season 1 Source

Ramona Singer

$7.5k for Season 1 Source

$250k for Season 4 Source

$500k for Season 5 Source

Luann DeLesseps

$7.5k for Season 1 Source

$250k for Season 4 Source

$500k for Season 5 Source

Leah McSweeney

$60k for Season 12 Source

Carole Radziwill

$100k for Season 5 Source

$150k for Season 6 Source

Heather Thompson

$60k for Season 5 Source

$150k for Season 6 Source

Aviva Drescher

$60k for Season 5 Source

$150k for Season 6 Source

Cindy Barshop

$50k for Season 4 Source

RHONJ

RHONJ

Teresa Giudice

$1.1 million for Season 10 Source

Melissa Gorga

$750k for Season 7 Source

RHOBH

RHOBH

Eileen Davidson

$750k for Season 5-7 Source

Lisa Vanderpump

$250k for Season 3 Source

$500k for Season 5 Source

Kyle Richards

$200k for Season 3 Source

$500k for Season 5 Source

Kim Richards

$100k for Season 3 Source(Sus)

$450k for Season 5 Source

Yolanda Hadid

$100k for Season 3 Source

$500k for Season 5 Source

Lisa Rinna

Brandi Glanville

$16k for Season 2 Source

$136k for Season 3 Source

Dorit Kemsley

$896,000 for Season 13  Source

Taylor Armstrong

$175k for Season 3 Source

Adrienne Maloof

$200k for Season 3 Source

Erika Jayne

$600k for Season 11 Source

RHOP

RHOP

Monique Samuels

$42k for Season 2 Source

RHOSLC

RHOSLC

Jen Shah

$483k for Season 3 Source

Mary Crosby

$32k for Season 1 Source

$136k for season 2 Source

Heather Gay

$32k for Season 1 Source

$149k for season 2 Source

Whitney Rose

$32k for Season 1 Source

$149k for season 2 Source

Baby Gorgeous

$32k for Season 1 Source

$149k for season 2 Source

Meredith Marks

$32k for Season 1 Source

$149k for season 2 Source

RHOM

Lisa Hochstein

$570k for season Source

Ana Quincoces

$40k for Season 2 Source

$42k for Season 3 Source

The Valley v In The City

How are we feeling about The Valley compared In The City?

Both are spin offs of shows that started about young adults and are now transitioning into their 30s/40s and becoming parents.

Brittany/Kristen/Jax were the OG anchors of The Valley while Amanda/Lindsay/Kyle are used as the anchors for In The City.

What do we think each are doing better than the other and could learn from?

With RHORI reunion count official now (2 parts), Beverly Hills and SLC remain the top 2 cities that have the longest 1st seasons. Most shows are always short their 1st season at Bravo but looks like 14 episodes may be the new minimum

RHOBH - 16 episodes

RHOSLC - 16 episodes (only one to get official 3 part reunion)

RHORI - 14 episodes

RHODu - 14 episodes

RHOP - 12 episodes

RHOD - 11 episodes

RHODC - 11 episodes

RHONJ - 10 episodes

RHONY - 9 episodes

RHOC- 8 episodes

RHOA - 8 episodes

RHOM - 7 episodes

Heather is addressing her controversial backing of Spencer Pratt

Spoiler: she longer supports him as she now see's he isnt serious about his role