u/gloomydreamer666

I mean he was being so off base here and acting like he is doing it for Jenny and maybe some part of him, believe it that is for that reason but the fact is when he saw Angel back, and then he told on Buffy instead of first hearing her out then when he wasn't getting his way, he went told Faith so she would stake him eventhough the one who had killed Jenny wasn't there anymore. He didn't care just as long as he get his wish and Angel was dead. He even lied to Buffy because he didn't want the possibility of Angel being cured.

Hell yeah I agree. First of all this is coming from someone who loves Rory and defend her from time to time but we should still called her out when she wasn't in the right.

She was not in the right to be so nasty and insulting to Shane. I can understand that it was because she was a jealous because of Jess but that doesn't excuse how rude and demeaning she was to Shane who literally had no qualm with her until Rory gave her an attitude which then you cannot blame Shane giving her the same energy.

Now for Lindsay, I feel Rory looked so cringy and foolish when she was being so blantly loud and critical of her without having the whole picture!! Not to mentioned, she was doing it in a public way that of course no one can blame Lindsay giving her the stink eye after that. Then to make matter things worse she found out about the affair in a letter Rory wrote from Dean. I mean I know realistically if I were Lindsay, an apology wouldn't really do much but at the same time, isn't it better some form of apology than nothing at all?

Just me? Haha just kidding I'm sure I'm not the only one who thought this.

That actor sure had the best glow up I've seen. And I know people hate on Anthony but he didn't stay his entitled self. The Anthony from s1 wouldn't have done what s6 Anthony did to Kenny when he was being accused of something this time he didn't do but in the end he acted like a champ and still did that to himself in order to prove to Kenny he meant it.

Can we give this character more appreciation and love?

Because sure he started out as insufferable and as the bully but if a character like Kreese or Kyler can be redeemed even when they done questionable things, he can and most certainly did too at the end.

Anytime people go off on Beck, I'm going to remind them how could she loved him when all he did to her was lie? Lie about how he truly was, lie about how he had stalked her, lie about his intention with her. Lies about his persona and how he was actually like. And yet fans still expected Beck to treated him better even when all he did to her was lie and manipulated her.

I disagree, cause him reacting and saying all that stuff to Rory was 100% justified and no way he lost your respect there. I can understand if it happened when he cheated on Lindsay with Rory or when he yelled at her for answering her the phone but this moment was not him acting disrespectful or wrong. Rory was the one who acted so crass and disrespectful. Imagine if Dean had been arguing with another girl the way Rory was with Jess??? Imagine if Dean acted that way? Would we be on his side or would we have hated him?

Just for the main six teenage characters like Miguel, Sam, Robby, Tory, Hawk and Demetri? Do you agree or not with my list? Which season would you pick as their villian era differently if you could?

To me, Miguel villain season was either season 1 because that where he turned into a huge jerk by the end of it.

Sam was season 4 because I feel that where she was starting to pick fights with Tory or like being the instigator.

Robby was season 2 because how his aggression was what led to Miguel almost being paralyzed.

Tory was season 3 because I feel she was going overboard with Sam and she also pushed Hawk to hurt Demetri arm.

Hawk was season 3 because the way he broke Demetri arm was so brutal although that where his redemption season came so maybe season 2 is also his villian era season.

Demetri was definitely season 6 because seriously he was retailing with Hawk and also don't like how quick he assumed that Kenny wanted to betrayed them and what he did to Hawk in the competition was also a villian move.

If you dislike Beck as a character, that is fine by me, that your right to but don't hate on her just for being a cheater while you love and like Joe cause he was a cheater plus a stalker, killer, sexual predator, manipulator etc. Like if you reasoning is because all cheaters are bad people then again so is Joe!! If you disliked her just because you find her boring or annoying then that more understandable or logical than because she cheated on Joe when he was a saint of a boyfriend because he never was. Her worst crime is literally cheating/lying while his worst crime is that plus murder/stalking/manipulating since he did it to her too. He also coerced too.

I personally disagree. He was right in some of the arguments of course like the one with Ian and the coke sure but not in all of them. He wasn't right when he blamed her for his sponsor drinking eventhough she wasn't in her best headspace in that season, is still fucked up to put that blame on her, what is she supposed to read minds??? He wasn't right when he wanted to quit school when he was still a teenager and he moved out.

First off let's start with why Romione did worked as a couple and how JKR did the right the choice by making them the endgame couple. Their banter and flirting moments were so engaging and interesting. They had build up, Ron didn't treated her like she was weak or a crybaby (the way Harry sometimes would often view her as or like when he was comparing Ginny to her in the sixth or the last book, I can't remember) defended her especially more in the books than in the movies sadly, but he couldn't handle anyone going off on her even against Snape he would go against. Hermione wasn't afraid of Ron the way sometimes she was with Harry like she could be herself as loud as she can be and wouldn't cower the way she did with Harry at times. I don't blame her since he did had a temper but that another reason why I think her and Harry are incompatible meanwhile why Ginny fit better for Harry since she wouldn't let him talk to her in any way without her going off on him. I love Harry don't get me wrong but damn he did had temper problems and sometimes I didn't like the way he treated Hermione.

I love talking about her because she is such a well written complex main character. There were human moments where I wasn't on her side and I don't defend her actions at all. When she got mad at Rory for telling on her after she told her about the house being infected. I'm sorry but don't tell your daughter adult stuff and then get mad when they act like a scared kid. How she crucified Jess and acted like the kid she just met was the worse for being an asshole to her eventhough he is still a kid.

Then when the accident happened and she yelled at Luke, I wasn't on her side because she refused to listen to Rory side and it wasn't that big of a deal like I get that it was scary and upsetting but she still took it too far. When she would get jealous because Rory is close with her grandparents like gurl don't do that, that your daughter not your rival. Her reaction when Rory wanted to go to Yale instead of Harvard and how she blamed her parents. When Rory wanted some time off from Yale after what Michium told her which in my opinion was very valid and realistic because if you coddle too much when they recieved a criticism, they might react extreme like that especially at her age. And then her get mad at Rory for going to her grandparents but she was going ambushed her with her grandparents that resorted to Rory going to them since she was giving an ultimatum and I find that so selfish and manipulative like she literally make up with her because Rory went back and got a job etc not because she realized she was being childish and should support her daughter even if she didn't agree with her choices. When she was seeing Chris and didn't tell Luke about it this was before April and this is about Lorelai. I know Luke also acted bad too. But her giving Luke an ultimatum was also very manipulative of her, she is more like Emily than she want to admit.

Now I will tell you the times I was on her side which I tend to agree with her most than not but there were occasions where I did not. Most of the time that's she argue with her parents, I was on her side because they are so mean and manipulative to her and they are controlling and strict, I give her more right than those two since I don't like how they were with her. They were also so critical too like they tend to criticize her more than say good things to her. They are lucky she still speak to them because in real life that why people cut off from those type of parents who are the bully to their own kids. I love when she defended Rory from Lindsay mom but she also didn't coddled Rory and told her the actual true although I do give Rory some right in what she told Lorelai because kids tend to model their parents and Lorelai did slept with Chris when he was engaged. I love when she defended Luke from her mom, my favorite was when Luke called her and she was yelling at him. I do love that even if she has animosity towards her parents, she still for the most parts doesn't want to damaged that and in s6 when they were all fighting, she was being a good mediator and I was on her side there. I was also on her side with most of Chris conflict since he sucked so much as a character and as a father.

First, they both get defended and treated like they aren't evil, just misunderstood characters. Second they both have an obsession problems but blame it on women instead on themselves. Thirdly, they both plays or act like they are the victims and act like their loneliness problems stem from the lack of partners rather than blame their own mental problems or traumas. And lastly of all people love to paint them as morally grey/ambiguous characters instead of what they truly are both despicable, vile villains who doesn't deserved any sympathy or to be defended on yet sadly they still have fans who do a bit too much.

Cause I didn't picked the vibe between Ian and Nikki until it was revealed eventhough now that I think about it was obvious because Ian didn't want Bear to confess at all. I also didn't notice fully this pictures that are also very telling. The contrast of Nikki with Bear vs with Ian. Bear look so happy while she looked so annoyed with him then the second picture Bear looks so annoyed while Nikki looked so happy and affectionate with Ian.

I know this was back when Regina was finally changing and learning to let things go and finally acting more good than bad but I still hate how Regina talked to Emma here like she has any right to even say that when she couldn't let go of a grudge she had not on a woman grown who told her secret but a CHILD!

Emma ate her up and I feel it was selfish of her parents and Regina to try to make Emma forgive them right away like let her be the one to decide and it was a big secret that I didn't blame her for her reaction at all.

I feel she was owed a huge apology after they literally treated her so badly in s4 because of their denial about Cole being the source. I also was on her side when she wanted to help Cole in s5 before he went too crazy that is.

I wish they hadn't make her be so against healing or other whiteligher perks, sometime I feel they wanted her to only focus on the witch part and instead of exploring more about her whitelighter side.

I hated how she treated Cole when he returned after he was forced to become the source in s5. I'm not saying she had to go back with him cause she had every right not to go there again since she did lose herself to darkness and it was painful for her but the way she treated him like he made a conscious choice to become evil again when we know he was forced to do it if he wanted to save her and her sisters from the source. I get it if they didn't want Cole to be the endgame but did he had to be treated so badly? And I'm talking about before they decided to destroyed his character by making him so obsessed to get her back at all cost because that when I couldn't root fot him but it was so frustrating to see them treating like he chose to do it on a whim not because he was literally forced to because if not, they would've been killed.

The entitlement some fans get because although I didn't like how it ended and what they did to Mileven in that season, I wouldn't be acting like this or even send death threats to Noah for ruining Mileven because he is going to this convention to talk crap about Mike and Mileven just because he is salty and want to please those delusional bylers fans.

Mine is that I actually liked and found her more relatable and likable how she was during the first three seasons then she became less relatable and even more annoying or hard to root for.

I mean her constant whining, if she had a fixation on something, she would have an attitude even to the people she had to help and yeah she does helped them but it is like take it easy, they aren't doing this to ruin your life. Also you're a freaking witch, who are you to be cynical and doubtful about other creatures existence???

I feel each of them had moments that realistically in their world doesn't make sense to be so skeptical at all. I mean I get why they did it writing wise since to add more drama but seriously it was so annoying to watch at times.

I also feel you can make characters be funny without being so rude and I feel Piper really crossed the lines from being funny to just plain rude especially in the later seasons. Don't get me wrong she is still a personal favorite since the one I liked the most was Piper and Paige.