u/Charming-Scratch-124

My main problem with takes like those is that they usually expose how violent a lot of people would be or become or come off if they ever got pissed off or had to deal with any Injustice or things not going their way and even if you wanna make the argument "oh they're joking" ,that excuse is still really flimsy to me.

Again,way too many people seem to forget that hpe you feel on things can be justified and even understandable but how you handle it is pretty damn awful and that's when it stops being justified cause you can be mad or angry or whatnot but if your first result is yelling or violence or even resorting to murder,mass murder,destruction,etc..is when I gotta take you by the hand and tell you to stop and either go to a entire therapist or just knock it off and people will always almost choose the worst characters people say had a "justified crashout".

First up is Tai Lung.

Yes,working your entire life to a goal and realizing you weren't chosen for it and your adopted Dad said nothing sucks but the thing that people miss is that not only does it not justify Shifu being killed by him[Tai Lung was gonna do so]but it also doesn't justify attacking the entire village and laying waste on the valley in your temper tantrum and keep in mind..all they said was that he wasn't That Guy.

He didn't get his title stripped nor did he lose any privileges or his home or whatnot,all he was told was that he wasn't that special little boy and then he goes and basically proves why he wasn't chosen or ready at all in the very next scene and even you wanna say how he felt was understandable,how he handled it and what he did afterwards makes him the villain.

Up next Is Dracula from Castlevania.

Yes,his wife died due to some douchebags,BooHoo,why he didn't just kill the Assholes who celebrated his wife's death and who killed them is beyond me but the amount of people who have said he was justified or in the right for attempting to wipe out all of humanity and life is crazy and keep in mind..he was more or less already planning on doing so but "oh his lover died,he so sad" And his own Son literally was fine with getting revenge on the ones who killed his Mom but not on all of humanity and he then basically almost kills his son.

Seriously why do people say he was justified or that everyone "had it coming?"

Another example is Jean Fucking Grey from Brand New Day.

I wouldn't even put her on this list but the amount of glazing she gets, the amount of defenders and stans and whatnot she gets who try and justify and excuse every fucked up thing she does is wild.

If she just specifically went after Damage Control People,then I would say she was fair,they killed her sister but not only is her power literally mentally and physically taking over innocent people[and you can't even say that that power is evil or bad cause Martian Manhunter has it and he's a good soul,so it's on the user]but she also drives a entire tank through new York city and constantly puts innocent people in danger and takes over innocent people and uses them as puppets for her own goal..then she takes over M.J and basically makes her Kiss Peter and almost has her jump off a entire building, she ruined the Hulk's life and had taken to a psych ward and ruined all his progress, etc..

And do not give me the bullshit of "oh but you like villains" or "oh do you not believe in redemption arcs" the character and story has to acknowledge they did terrible things in order for any form of redemption arc to take place,ya know.

The story acknowledges people like Tony Stark and Loki did horrible things and held them accountable for it and they apologized for it and got better and even then,they were charismatic or at least likable enough to get the audience interested in them and their movies never apologized for them like they did with her.

If Jean went strictly after damage control people and tried to take them down,then she would've been justified but what did she even gain from going after innocent people and killing a dude and sexually assaulting M.J and not caring about the consequences of her actions.

It's funny cause isn't being a piece of shit who takes away someone's autonomy and sexually assaults people and doesn't care about the consequences of their actions..why someone like Bear from Obsession is hated?

I swear..if Bear was a woman,they would have defenders.

Seriously, I hate when people say these characters have justified crashouts.

Y'all remember when people were(and still do)Glazing Red Hood for being a "Better Batman" or the "Batman Gotham needs" and all of that for cause he kills his villains?

I find that so funny cause Red Hood is deadass one of the biggest frauds in DC and I don't like using that word often but in this context,it's fair cause multiple people glazed him for apparently being better than Batman all cause he "kills" and I just wanna ask the people who say that..WHO HAS JASON KILLED TO WARRANT THIS?

No seriously.

Has he killed Joker?

Penguin?

Mad Hatter?

Riddler?

Professor Pyg?

I could keep going but literally his body count consists of unnamed thugs or mob bosses and goons and you know what?

I was wrong,he did kill all of Batman's villains!

...in the Death of the Family Movie..in different Alternative timelines.

Seriously it's so funny cause I genuinely dare the 10 Red Hood lovers to say which major villains has this man killed cause I think Punisher has more major bodies on him and even funnier cause Jason(in the Red Hood movie)has the chance to kill Joker but set up this elaborate scheme and basically did all this to drag Bruce and force him to kill Joker cause To Quote, TFS Cell about Trunks.

"Look at me,I'm Jason, please Love me Dad!"

Dude could've just shot Joker in the head and moved on and when Bruce was like "nah,you do it, I don't wanto do it" he basically decided to shoot Batman!

And it's even funnier cause apparently Jason tried to kill Penguin but it was retconned to him being alive and I think a lot of people would be happier if they realized that Jason can't do what he's supposed to do unless he's given his own exclusive Rogue gallery or less The comics decide to let Jason Kill the villains, which ain't gonna happen at all.

I also find it funny how people will give Bruce shit for not killing the Joker or his villains but then turn around and make numerous excuses on why Jason hasn't killed any major villains or main villains and I can't tell if it's just a bias thing or what but like..dude,maybe Jason is just a fake demon.

And the comics haven't done anything with him in years, so a lot of folks are just clinging onto the Outlaws and Under the Red Hood Storyline cause outside of that and maybe the Death in the Family comics,Jason has Jack shit.

Has Jason even been in other movies outside of Under the Red Hood/Death in the Family?

I digress but how has Jason escaped slander for so long while Batman gets flack?

I sometimes question how Gooner brained people are to where they claim some of the stupidest takes if the character's even somewhat attractive and really makes me feel like if they were being manipulated by any evil women,she wouldn't even need to do much, all she has to do is just give any gooner or schmuck the smallest bit of attention and boom,done.

I think it's cause that a lot of people project heavily and I mean HEAVILY onto these characters and to see them not act the way they specifically would is what they consider a fumble and I strongly implore people to put their dicks away for one minute and think with their main head as opposed to their "other head" and all that cause what are we doing here?

No genuinely.

If any character doesn't like a beautiful woman or accept their love confession immediately, that's a fumble.

If a character doesn't let a hot woman do whatever they want to them and let them do evil shit to them, that's a fumble or them "selling the bag".

I could keep going but way too many people think with their dicks as opposed to their brains.

Firstly, I'll see people constantly claim that they wish he was Mark[Invincible]when he is literally being raped by Anissa and gonna be so honest,this is why a lot of people don't take Male Sexual Assault seriously when y'sll are saying this shit and I guarantee you the only reason they're saying this is cause Anissa is hot.

I also see a lot of people claim that Spider-Man/Peter fumbled Felica and..if you want me to be so deadass,I would argue that she fumbles him but cause she's a Woman,a lot of people will seldom to never bring it up and place all the blame on Peter and that's 90% cause she's a hot woman with a skin tight bodysuit and a cat themed demeanor..if she was ugly,I genuinely don't think people would claim he fumbled her.

I also see people claim that Saitama fumbled Tatsumaki and Fubuki and I just wanna know how..he doesn't romantically like them.

Not romantically liking someone isn't a "fumble",you can't force romantic love.

I would argue he barely sees them as close friends, so how is he "fumbling?"

Same goes for Jimmy and Giganta in My Adventures with Superman.

Y'all only claimed that he was "fumbling" and "needed to pass the controller" cause she was a hot woman..that's literally it and I know y'all would gladly let her do anything she wants to you including drugging and experimenting on you and capturing you when you don't romantically like them back but some people actually have self respect.

I know we can talk about Kara and Jimmy and how he "fumbled" her but I chalk that up to bad writing at times and I guarantee you Kara wouldn't get half the defense and white knighting she does rn if she wasn't some overly cute golden retriever woman who is perfect and innocent and whatnot..like if she was actually a flawed and self destructive or even messy character, people would be a lot more apprehensive.

I genuinely don't get why so many people are so damn gullible with attractive characters and will go to war for them.