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Trans Advocacy Extremism

I am LGBTQ and a long time activist and advocate for LGBTQ rights

I am tired of the extremism and intolerance among a percentage of the people who advocate for trans rights

They are actively alienating potential LGBTQ allies

Someone posted an article on a large LGBT sub accusing Texas democratic politician James Tallarico of bigotry and transphobia because he advocated for restrictions on the inclusion of trans women in women’s sports.

Not advocating for a blanket ban, just advocating for reasoned restrictions.

The article was encouraging people to not vote for him.

I left several comments on that post which I will summarize below.

I said it was foolish to not vote for him in that election because he is an avowed LGBTQ allie who supports LGBTQ rights while his republican opponent is a dangerous bigot.

I said that advocating for the inclusion of trans women in women’s sports with certain restrictions is not necessarily a bigoted position.

Whether the person is advocating for trans woman having to be on hormone replacement therapy or trans women having to not have undergone a male puberty, taking those positions is not necessarily due to bigotry but could be due to concerns about fairness in women’s sports.

I said that even people who advocate for blanket bans on trans women in women sports could be taking that position due to their concerns about fairness in women’s sports and again not necessarily because of bigotry.

I personally understand that there is evidence from history and science that supports that blanket bans of trans women from women’s sports is not necessary to ensure fairness in those sports.

However, many average people might not be aware of those facts or even if they are aware of them might still favor blanket bans due to an overabundance of caution.

I said that if you want to change these people‘s minds about blanket bans then the thing to do is to have a constructive conversation with them and not just jump right into accusing them of bigotry, because you could be alienating a potential allie when you do that.

I also said that the most important criteria when it comes to judging whether or not someone is engaging in bigotry and transphobia is whether or not they support more essential trans rights such as equal rights in areas like housing and employment and service in the military and parental rights and the right to marry and the right not to be refused services, etc.

Because I expressed those opinions in that LGBT sub that I summarized above I, an LGBTQ person, was then permanently banned from that sub.

But before I was banned from the sub, a bunch of other people attacked me in the comments, accusing me of bigotry and transphobia and of advocating for blanket bans of trans women’s from women sports (which I never did).

I’m not going to name the sub specifically, but I’m guessing that most people can guess which LGBT sub I am referring to.

This is reflective of what happens all the time in real life

Even as an LGBTQ person, if you don’t adopt the trans advocacy positions that some trans rights activists believe you should adopt you will be accused of bigotry against trans people and transphobia.

These advocates are one of their own worst enemies, or at least an enemy

I think a lot of success of the progression for gay rights over the last few decades came from constructive dialogue between gay people/gay rights advocates and other people who were trying to be better informed on the relevant issues or who might’ve even been prejudice but were reconsidering their stances

The gay community didn’t just run around shouting “ You’re a bad person. You’re a bigot You’re evil. There’s no point in even talking to you.” in relation to every single person who didn’t fully support every aspect of gay rights or who wasn’t sure about whether they should or not.

And yes, I understand that there are plenty of people out there who really are evil bigots, and there is no point in talking to most of them, but you shouldn’t be treating those people and people who have sincere fairness concerns about trans women in women sports the same exact way.

I would say the same thing about the other trans rights hot button issue, which is of course bathrooms.

I am 100% I’m in favor of and advocate for allowing trans people to use the bathroom of the gender they identify with.

However, I again don’t just necessarily assume that anybody who has concerns about transgender people in bathrooms is a bigot or is looking to oppress trans people.

I do think that the bathroom issue is more clear cut than the sports issue and people who oppose trans peoples rights to use the bathroom of the gender they identify with are probably more likely to be bigoted than people who primarily or solely have concerns about trans women in women sports (and I realize in this case that that is an assumption that I am making, and I could be wrong).

HOWEVER I don’t jump to the assumption that they are bigots automatically and my first inclination would be to try and have a constructive conversation with them about it.

P.S.

Someone else is informed me that Tallarico said that he was in favor of reasoned restrictions on trans women’s participation in women’s sports for reasons of “safety and fairness” in at least one statement that he made and I verified that to be true.

First of all the original article and post that I commented on and got attacked on which then inspired me to make this post never said anything about him mentioning “safety” and the criticism of him in that article and in that post was not about him using that word.

I agree that that is a poor choice of words, and I wish that he would not have used the word “safety” in reference to this issue.

If you were to be as generous to him as possible in interpreting that you could hypothesize that he was concerned about cis gendered girls and cis gendered women’s physical safety in terms of sports where people come into hard physical contact with each other.

But even if that is what he was meaning to communicate, I still agree that that was a poor choice of word given the context of this issue and trans rights issues in general

(because it’s a favorite tactic of bigots and transphobes to suggest that trans people pose some especially dangerous threat to cis girls and cis women).

With that being said, I would still advocate voting for him in this election.

And my larger point about a large percentage of people, or at least a very vocal percentage of them, who advocate for trans rights attacking other people and accusing them of bigotry and transphobia over minor differences, and subsequently alienating a lot of people who might otherwise have been allies or more enthusiastic allies, still stands.

Again, in the original post this post is a response to, I and other people were getting attacked left and right by trans advocates for simply suggesting that people who are in favor of reasoned restrictions on trans women’s participation in women’s sports aren’t necessarily bigots and shouldn’t be attacked as such, especially since doing so is counterproductive to the progression of trans rights.

I unfortunately can’t link to the original post in that LGBT sub because the mods took it down.

P.P.S

I linked to this article or at least to a reddit post that included a link to this article in a list of links to other relevant reddit posts in one of my comments below but I think that it’s so important that people go and read this article that I’m going to link to it here directly

“A Manifesto for Liberal Trans Activism”

https://www.persuasion.community/p/a-manifesto-for-liberal-trans-activism

u/EarthRemembers — 6 days ago

The Road Between Us: The Ultimate Rescue. Documentary review. (2025)[1:35:00]

Submission statement: This documentary follows retired Israeli general Noam Tibon during the October 7 attacks. It focuses on his effort to reach Nahal Oz and rescue his family.

The Road Between Us: The Ultimate Rescue wants to be regarded as an intimate documentary about courage, family and survival on October 7, 2023.

Taken purely at that level, the story of retired Israeli general Noam Tibon racing toward Nahal Oz to rescue his family is undeniably dramatic. But documentaries are defined not merely by what they show. They are also defined by what they select, what they omit, whose humanity they foreground and whose history they render invisible.

Judged on those terms, I found The Road Between Us less convincing as documentary journalism than as Israeli propaganda: an emotionally sophisticated piece of advocacy that packages an Israeli national narrative as though it were simply an apolitical human-interest story.

When judging the veracity and intent of a documentary made about one of the most contentious political issues on the planet discerning these types of distinctions is critical.

The film establishes its moral universe almost immediately. Israel and the kibbutz are presented as places of community, cultivation, family and civilization.

The October 7 attackers enter that universe as an almost contextless eruption of barbarism.

The suffering of Israeli civilians is individualized, intimate and emotionally legible. The audience knows their names, homes, fears and relationships.
Palestinians, by contrast, scarcely possess a comparable existence within the film’s frame.

That asymmetry is not an accidental omission in a documentary about one of the most politically and historically contested places on Earth. It is an editorial decision.
Professional critics have noticed the same problem even when they have avoided using the word “propaganda.”

Robert Abele of the Los Angeles Times criticized the film for turning Tibon’s mission into something resembling an action narrative while separating October 7 from the history preceding it and the devastation in Gaza afterward. He ultimately described what remains as essentially a story stripped of history and inconvenient perspectives.

POV Magazine similarly criticized director Barry Avrich’s insistence that this is not a political film, arguing that removing an intensely political event from its context does not make the resulting film apolitical.
That is precisely the problem.

Propaganda does not have to consist of fabricated footage or explicit government slogans.

Some of the most effective propaganda uses authentic suffering and genuine heroism.

Its persuasive power comes from selection and framing: one side receives history, personality, grief and moral complexity, while the other becomes largely a threatening presence beyond the fence.

And because the events depicted on October 7 were genuinely horrific, the technique is particularly powerful.

The viewer can condemn Hamas’s killing and kidnapping of civilians, and should be able to do so without accepting the proposition that the Israeli-Palestinian conflict began that morning.

Yet The Road Between Us effectively asks the viewer to inhabit precisely that truncated chronology.

Even sympathetic reviews have acknowledged the omission. Nell Minow’s RogerEbert.com review notes that viewers may regard the absence of the circumstances preceding October 7 and Israel’s subsequent conduct in Gaza as slanted, even while accepting the filmmakers’ explanation that they deliberately confined themselves to one family’s experience.

But “we chose to tell only this story” does not eliminate bias. Choosing the boundaries of the story is one of the principal ways documentary bias operates.

Paramount+ makes the context more troubling

The platform presenting this film is also relevant, because media ownership and editorial priorities deserve scrutiny.

The film is being heavily promoted on the Paramount+ streaming platform and the vast majority of people who ever see this film will see it through that media channel.

The Ellison family now effectively controls Paramount. Through their corporate holdings, Larry Ellison and his son David hold the overwhelming majority of the company’s voting power, giving them ultimate control over Paramount and its businesses, including Paramount+ and CBS.

Their support for Israel is not speculative.

In 2017 Larry Ellison donated $16.6 million to Friends of the Israel Defense Forces, then the largest individual donation in the organization’s history. He said there was “no greater honor” than supporting Israeli soldiers and spoke of the IDF defending “our home.”

David Ellison’s Skydance donated to the Israeli emergency organization Magen David Adom after October 7 and publicly declared, “Skydance stands with Israel.”

Reporting on the family has also described Larry Ellison as having longstanding ties to Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and noted David Ellison’s own public praise of Netanyahu and Israel.

Paramount+ announced its acquisition of The Road Between Us for streaming in September 2026, well after the Ellisons had assumed control of Paramount.

That context becomes still more significant when CBS News is considered.
The same ownership now sits above CBS News.

David Ellison appointed Bari Weiss as editor in chief of CBS News, following Paramount’s purchase of her publication, The Free Press. Paramount has stated that Weiss reports directly to Ellison and has responsibility for shaping CBS News’s editorial priorities.

Weiss is not merely someone whom critics have inferred to be sympathetic to Israel. She has publicly identified strongly with Zionism, and her strongly pro-Israel views have been a prominent part of her public career.

Meanwhile, CBS News has experienced extraordinary internal conflict over editorial independence.

At 60 Minutes, longtime correspondent Scott Pelley accused the new management of instructing him to inject “falsehoods and bias” into a politically sensitive story and to include unverified assertions.

Correspondents Sharyn Alfonsi and Cecilia Vega also accused Weiss of attempting to introduce right-wing talking points into their reporting, according to the Los Angeles Times.

Journalism unions subsequently warned that the changes at 60 Minutes threatened editorial independence.

There have been Israel-specific concerns as well. When Tony Dokoupil was selected to anchor the CBS Evening News, The Washington Post reported that some people inside CBS viewed his interview with Benjamin Netanyahu as an unofficial “audition” for the position because of Weiss’s strong support for Israel.

These facts make it increasingly difficult to treat the ideological environment surrounding Paramount and CBS as irrelevant.

When a family with unusually strong and publicly demonstrated support for Israel acquires control of one of America’s largest media conglomerates; when its CEO installs an openly Zionist editor at the top of CBS News; when prominent veteran journalists subsequently accuse management of ideological interference; and when the company’s streaming service licenses a documentary whose political method is to humanize Israelis intensely while largely removing Palestinians and the history of the conflict from view, viewers are entitled to connect those facts, not as proof of a conspiracy, but as reasons for heightened skepticism.

And The Road Between Us deserves that skepticism.

The events of October 7 do not need embellishment. The murder of civilians, hostage-taking and terror of that day were horrific enough on their own.

A genuinely probing documentary
could tell the Tibon family’s extraordinary story while acknowledging that October 7 occurred within a history and that the suffering did not end at Israel’s border.

Instead, this film creates a tightly controlled moral frame in which Israeli suffering is vivid, personal and historically meaningful while Palestinian existence remains overwhelmingly outside the camera’s field of vision.

That may make for emotionally effective filmmaking.

It may make for a gripping rescue story.

But calling that perspective “apolitical” does not make it so.

In my view, The Road Between Us: The Ultimate Rescue is propaganda precisely because its advocacy is embedded in what it asks us to see, and even more importantly, in everything it asks us not to see.

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u/EarthRemembers — 14 days ago

The Road Between Us: The Ultimate Rescue (2025)[1:35:00]— A Rescue Story Turned Into Propaganda

Submission statement: This documentary follows retired Israeli general Noam Tibon during the October 7 attacks. It focuses on his effort to reach Nahal Oz and rescue his family.

The Road Between Us: The Ultimate Rescue wants to be regarrded as an intimate documentary about courage, family and survival on October 7, 2023.

Taken purely at that level, the story of retired Israeli general Noam Tibon racing toward Nahal Oz to rescue his family is undeniably dramatic. But documentaries are defined not merely by what they show. They are also defined by what they select, what they omit, whose humanity they foreground and whose history they render invisible.

Judged on those terms, I found The Road Between Us less convincing as documentary journalism than as Israeli propaganda: an emotionally sophisticated piece of advocacy that packages an Israeli national narrative as though it were simply an apolitical human-interest story.

That distinction matters.

The film establishes its moral universe almost immediately. Israel and the kibbutz are presented as places of community, cultivation, family and civilization.

The October 7 attackers enter that universe as an almost contextless eruption of barbarism.

The suffering of Israeli civilians is individualized, intimate and emotionally legible. The audience knows their names, homes, fears and relationships.
Palestinians, by contrast, scarcely possess a comparable existence within the film’s frame.

That asymmetry is not an accidental omission in a documentary about one of the most politically and historically contested places on Earth. It is an editorial decision.
Professional critics have noticed the same problem even when they have avoided using the word “propaganda.”

Robert Abele of the Los Angeles Times criticized the film for turning Tibon’s mission into something resembling an action narrative while separating October 7 from the history preceding it and the devastation in Gaza afterward. He ultimately described what remains as essentially a story stripped of history and inconvenient perspectives.

POV Magazine similarly criticized director Barry Avrich’s insistence that this is not a political film, arguing that removing an intensely political event from its context does not make the resulting film apolitical.
That is precisely the problem.

Propaganda does not have to consist of fabricated footage or explicit government slogans.

Some of the most effective propaganda uses authentic suffering and genuine heroism.

Its persuasive power comes from selection and framing: one side receives history, personality, grief and moral complexity, while the other becomes largely a threatening presence beyond the fence.

And because the events depicted on October 7 were genuinely horrific, the technique is particularly powerful.

The viewer can condemn Hamas’s killing and kidnapping of civilians, and should be able to do so, without accepting the proposition that the Israeli-Palestinian conflict began that morning.

Yet The Road Between Us effectively asks the viewer to inhabit precisely that truncated chronology.

Even sympathetic reviews have acknowledged the omission. Nell Minow’s RogerEbert.com review notes that viewers may regard the absence of the circumstances preceding October 7 and Israel’s subsequent conduct in Gaza as slanted, even while accepting the filmmakers’ explanation that they deliberately confined themselves to one family’s experience.

But “we chose to tell only this story” does not eliminate bias. Choosing the boundaries of the story is one of the principal ways documentary bias operates.

Paramount+ makes the context more troubling

The platform presenting this film is also relevant, not because corporate ownership proves that anyone ordered this documentary to say particular things, but because media ownership and editorial priorities deserve scrutiny.

The Ellison family now effectively controls Paramount. Through their corporate holdings, Larry Ellison and his son David hold the overwhelming majority of the company’s voting power, giving them ultimate control over Paramount and its businesses, including Paramount+ and CBS.

Their support for Israel is not speculative.

In 2017 Larry Ellison donated $16.6 million to Friends of the Israel Defense Forces, then the largest individual donation in the organization’s history. He said there was “no greater honor” than supporting Israeli soldiers and spoke of the IDF defending “our home.”

David Ellison’s Skydance donated to the Israeli emergency organization Magen David Adom after October 7 and publicly declared, “Skydance stands with Israel.”

Reporting on the family has also described Larry Ellison as having longstanding ties to Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and noted David Ellison’s own public praise of Netanyahu and Israel.

Paramount+ announced its acquisition of The Road Between Us for streaming in September 2026, well after the Ellisons had assumed control of Paramount.

That context becomes still more significant when CBS News is considered.
The same ownership now sits above CBS News.

David Ellison appointed Bari Weiss as editor in chief of CBS News, following Paramount’s purchase of her publication, The Free Press. Paramount has stated that Weiss reports directly to Ellison and has responsibility for shaping CBS News’s editorial priorities.

Weiss is not merely someone whom critics have inferred to be sympathetic to Israel. She has publicly identified strongly with Zionism, and her strongly pro-Israel views have been a prominent part of her public career.

Meanwhile, CBS News has experienced extraordinary internal conflict over editorial independence.

At 60 Minutes, longtime correspondent Scott Pelley accused the new management of instructing him to inject “falsehoods and bias” into a politically sensitive story and to include unverified assertions.

Correspondents Sharyn Alfonsi and Cecilia Vega also accused Weiss of attempting to introduce right-wing talking points into their reporting, according to the Los Angeles Times.

Journalism unions subsequently warned that the changes at 60 Minutes threatened editorial independence.

There have been Israel-specific concerns as well. When Tony Dokoupil was selected to anchor the CBS Evening News, The Washington Post reported that some people inside CBS viewed his interview with Benjamin Netanyahu as an unofficial “audition” for the position because of Weiss’s strong support for Israel.

These facts make it increasingly difficult to treat the ideological environment surrounding Paramount and CBS as irrelevant.

When a family with unusually strong and publicly demonstrated support for Israel acquires control of one of America’s largest media conglomerates; when its CEO installs an openly Zionist editor at the top of CBS News; when prominent veteran journalists subsequently accuse management of ideological interference; and when the company’s streaming service licenses a documentary whose political method is to humanize Israelis intensely while largely removing Palestinians and the history of the conflict from view, viewers are entitled to connect those facts,not as proof of a conspiracy, but as reasons for heightened skepticism.

And The Road Between Us deserves that skepticism.

The events of October 7 do not need embellishment. The murder of civilians, hostage-taking and terror of that day were horrific enough on their own.

A genuinely probing documentary
could tell the Tibon family’s extraordinary story while acknowledging that October 7 occurred within a history and that the suffering did not end at Israel’s border.

Instead, this film creates a tightly controlled moral frame in which Israeli suffering is vivid, personal and historically meaningful while Palestinian existence remains overwhelmingly outside the camera’s field of vision.

That may make for emotionally effective filmmaking.

It may make for a gripping rescue story.

But calling that perspective “apolitical” does not make it so.

In my view, The Road Between Us: The Ultimate Rescue is propaganda precisely because its advocacy is embedded in what it asks us to see, and even more importantly, in everything it asks us not to see.

reddit.com
u/EarthRemembers — 15 days ago

The Road Between Us: The Ultimate Rescue (2025)[1:35:00]— A Rescue Story Turned Into Propaganda

Submission statement: A documentary following retired Israeli general Noam Tibon as he travels through the October 7 attacks to rescue his family from Nahal Oz.

The Road Between Us: The Ultimate Rescue wants to be regarded as an intimate documentary about courage, family and survival on October 7, 2023.

Taken purely at that level, the story of retired Israeli general Noam Tibon racing toward Nahal Oz to rescue his family is undeniably dramatic. But documentaries are defined not merely by what they show. They are also defined by what they select, what they omit, whose humanity they foreground and whose history they render invisible.

Judged on those terms, I found The Road Between Us less convincing as documentary journalism than as Israeli propaganda: an emotionally sophisticated piece of advocacy that packages an Israeli national narrative as though it were simply an apolitical human-interest story.

That distinction matters.

The film establishes its moral universe almost immediately. Israel and the kibbutz are presented as places of community, cultivation, family and civilization.

The October 7 attackers enter that universe as an almost contextless eruption of barbarism.

The suffering of Israeli civilians is individualized, intimate and emotionally legible. The audience knows their names, homes, fears and relationships.
Palestinians, by contrast, scarcely possess a comparable existence within the film’s frame.

That asymmetry is not an accidental omission in a documentary about one of the most politically and historically contested places on Earth. It is an editorial decision.
Professional critics have noticed the same problem even when they have avoided using the word “propaganda.”

Robert Abele of the Los Angeles Times criticized the film for turning Tibon’s mission into something resembling an action narrative while separating October 7 from the history preceding it and the devastation in Gaza afterward. He ultimately described what remains as essentially a story stripped of history and inconvenient perspectives.

POV Magazine similarly criticized director Barry Avrich’s insistence that this is not a political film, arguing that removing an intensely political event from its context does not make the resulting film apolitical.
That is precisely the problem.

Propaganda does not have to consist of fabricated footage or explicit government slogans.

Some of the most effective propaganda uses authentic suffering and genuine heroism.

Its persuasive power comes from selection and framing: one side receives history, personality, grief and moral complexity, while the other becomes largely a threatening presence beyond the fence.

And because the events depicted on October 7 were genuinely horrific, the technique is particularly powerful.

The viewer can condemn Hamas’s killing and kidnapping of civilians, and should be able to do so, without accepting the proposition that the Israeli-Palestinian conflict began that morning.

Yet The Road Between Us effectively asks the viewer to inhabit precisely that truncated chronology.

Even sympathetic reviews have acknowledged the omission. Nell Minow’s RogerEbert.com review notes that viewers may regard the absence of the circumstances preceding October 7 and Israel’s subsequent conduct in Gaza as slanted, even while accepting the filmmakers’ explanation that they deliberately confined themselves to one family’s experience.

But “we chose to tell only this story” does not eliminate bias. Choosing the boundaries of the story is one of the principal ways documentary bias operates.

Paramount+ makes the context more troubling

The platform presenting this film is also relevant—not because corporate ownership proves that anyone ordered this documentary to say particular things, but because media ownership and editorial priorities deserve scrutiny.

The Ellison family now effectively controls Paramount. Through their corporate holdings, Larry Ellison and his son David hold the overwhelming majority of the company’s voting power, giving them ultimate control over Paramount and its businesses, including Paramount+ and CBS.

Their support for Israel is not speculative.

In 2017 Larry Ellison donated $16.6 million to Friends of the Israel Defense Forces, then the largest individual donation in the organization’s history. He said there was “no greater honor” than supporting Israeli soldiers and spoke of the IDF defending “our home.”

David Ellison’s Skydance donated to the Israeli emergency organization Magen David Adom after October 7 and publicly declared, “Skydance stands with Israel.”

Reporting on the family has also described Larry Ellison as having longstanding ties to Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and noted David Ellison’s own public praise of Netanyahu and Israel.

Paramount+ announced its acquisition of The Road Between Us for streaming in September 2026, well after the Ellisons had assumed control of Paramount.

That context becomes still more significant when CBS News is considered.
The same ownership now sits above CBS News.

David Ellison appointed Bari Weiss as editor in chief of CBS News, following Paramount’s purchase of her publication, The Free Press. Paramount has stated that Weiss reports directly to Ellison and has responsibility for shaping CBS News’s editorial priorities.

Weiss is not merely someone whom critics have inferred to be sympathetic to Israel. She has publicly identified strongly with Zionism, and her strongly pro-Israel views have been a prominent part of her public career.

Meanwhile, CBS News has experienced extraordinary internal conflict over editorial independence.

At 60 Minutes, longtime correspondent Scott Pelley accused the new management of instructing him to inject “falsehoods and bias” into a politically sensitive story and to include unverified assertions.

Correspondents Sharyn Alfonsi and Cecilia Vega also accused Weiss of attempting to introduce right-wing talking points into their reporting, according to the Los Angeles Times.

Journalism unions subsequently warned that the changes at 60 Minutes threatened editorial independence.

There have been Israel specific concerns as well. When Tony Dokoupil was selected to anchor the CBS Evening News, The Washington Post reported that some people inside CBS viewed his interview with Benjamin Netanyahu as an unofficial “audition” for the position because of Weiss’s strong support for Israel.

These facts make it increasingly difficult to treat the ideological environment surrounding Paramount and CBS as irrelevant.

When a family with unusually strong and publicly demonstrated support for Israel acquires control of one of America’s largest media conglomerates; when its CEO installs an openly Zionist editor at the top of CBS News; when prominent veteran journalists subsequently accuse management of ideological interference; and when the company’s streaming service licenses a documentary whose political method is to humanize Israelis intensely while largely removing Palestinians and the history of the conflict from view, viewers are entitled to connect those facts, not as proof of a conspiracy, but as reasons for heightened skepticism.

And The Road Between Us deserves that skepticism.

The events of October 7 do not need embellishment. The murder of civilians, hostage-taking and terror of that day were horrific enough on their own.

A genuinely probing documentary
could tell the Tibon family’s extraordinary story while acknowledging that October 7 occurred within a history and that the suffering did not end at Israel’s border.

Instead, this film creates a tightly controlled moral frame in which Israeli suffering is vivid, personal and historically meaningful while Palestinian existence remains overwhelmingly outside the camera’s field of vision.

That may make for emotionally effective filmmaking.

It may make for a gripping rescue story.

But calling that perspective “apolitical” does not make it so.

In my view, The Road Between Us: The Ultimate Rescue is propaganda precisely because its advocacy is embedded in what it asks us to see, and even more importantly, in everything it asks us not to see.

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u/EarthRemembers — 15 days ago
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What VHS Akira did I watch in Spring of 1990?

The first time I saw Akira was at the very latest in the spring of 1990.

A friend had a VHS copy

It wasn’t an imported Japanese only language VHS

I remember being able to follow the story so it either had subtitles or an English dub

I didn’t realize at the time that I was seeing it on VHS about as early as anybody in the United States managed to see it on VHS and earlier than most

Did I see a screener or a production version?

Did I see a pirate recording of an English dub movie theater version? I don’t remember the film seeming like it had been recorded via video camera at a movie theater. It seemed very good quality.

What makes me so certain about seeing it at the latest in the spring of 1990 was that I know what grade in school I was in when I saw it and I know that I saw it before the end of that school year, I actually watched it at school in a library.

The year after that I was attending a different school so I’m very very certain about this.

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u/EarthRemembers — 23 days ago

A petty complaint

I am mildly annoyed by the fact that it seems that every other post in the sub claims that the book they are posting about is “known only by a few people” or “ barely anybody has read it” or something similar…

When in reality, many of these books and their authors are very well known and have been very widely read

To unfairly pick on two particular posts that I’ve seen recently-

One post that was claiming such things was about a well-known book by Alan Watts, who is a well-known author, philosopher, spiritual teacher

The other book was the psychology / sociology book “the denial of death”, which is an extremely well-known, academic text that many people in psychology and sociology courses study.

A particular book might not be widely read today by the general public because it was published many years ago or because it’s on a very niche topic or because it’s mostly read by people involved in academics, or because it addresses an interest that only a small percentage of the population has or because of some combination of the above factors and other factors etc.

But that doesn’t mean that the book is an almost completely unknown and unread mystery.

I think people feel compelled to include statements on their post about the book being barely known or having no or almost no one ever read them because they want to make their post more interesting

I would humbly suggest that people considering making such hyperbolic statements could instead say something along the lines of “the book has to a large degree, been forgotten by the general public” or “outside of certain circles The book isn’t widely known by the general public” when that is more appropriate.

Upsate:

Just a little update to point out that it’s been communicated to me that the large majority of these posts are being made by the same single person who also happens to be the creator and moderator of this sub

The posts this person makes also seem very repetitive and formulaic which has a lot of people suspecting that he is using AI to auto generate these post

Some people have even raised the possibility that the creator and moderator of the sub is not a person at all, but an AI that is doing this as part of it training

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u/EarthRemembers — 1 month ago

Who are “friends”?

In the Explore/search section of the app there is a list right at the top titled “shows friends watched”

As far as I know, this app doesn’t have a friends feature

There are people that I follow and there are people that follow me is that what is considered friends?

If so, are friends people I follow or people that follow me or people that I both follow and follow me or all of the above?

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u/EarthRemembers — 1 month ago

There needs to be a reporting system for abusive content

Right now if somebody threatens violence on this platform or uses hate speech on this platform, whether it’s through a comment or a review or wherever there’s no way to report that

Someone just used abusive language towards me in reply to a very reasonable comment I made

I wouldn’t classify this specific comment Somebody else made as hate speech, but it highlighted for me the fact that there’s no way to report something.

If people who want to engage in threats of violence and hate speech and bigotry, find out that there’s no consequences for doing that on this platform, then this platform is going to start to attract people who want to engage in such conduct without consequence

The makers of this app need to get ahead of this and put a reporting system in place now before this place becomes a dumpster fire

I’ve added it to the feature request section if you wanna go there and vote for it

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u/EarthRemembers — 1 month ago

Star ratings and feelings emojis

Why is it with the star ratings that for some films and TV shows you can give them a rating and while others you cant?

It doesn’t seem to be based on how old the film or TV show is. There are new films and TV show that you can and can’t rate and old films TV show shows that you can and cant rate.

At least with the star ratings though the overall average appears below the movie info section

What’s the point of the feelings emojis?

I guess if you click one, it will tell you what other percentage of people chose that emoji but I don’t really think it’s a useful feature

First of all the number of feelings you can choose from is very limited and second of all it doesn’t tell you how many people have actually chosen a particular emoji it just gives you a percentage

It just seems like kind of a useless feature that’s taking up a lot of real estate on the screen

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u/EarthRemembers — 1 month ago

Find films or TV by searching for a cast or crew member

Right now when you click on a film or TV show, the cast and crew members are displayed and you can click on one of those caster or crew members and it will show you all the other projects they have been involved with

However, what you can’t do is type a cast or crew member’s name into the search bar and have that cast or crew member come up in search

Please include cast and crew members in the search function

Several other entertainment media tracking apps have this feature

I have requested this on the app in the feature request section

Please vote for it

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u/EarthRemembers — 1 month ago

In search “and” and “&” should be interchangable

I am tired of not being able to find something only to realize later that I needed to search the other way

Official data bases will sometimes lost the titles of the same show or film in varying ways.

Sometimes even promotion for the show or film itself will show the title both ways.

I have suggested this on the app feature request. Please vote for it. It should be easy to implement.

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u/EarthRemembers — 1 month ago

TV Time co-founder launches Bingers to revive the beloved TV-tracking app

They founding developer of TV time and Bingers talks about how the Bingers app is different from the TV time app and his future plans for the app so this is worth a read and still relevant.

This isn’t just an article announcing the launching of the Bingers app.

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u/EarthRemembers — 1 month ago

The Media Tracking features of JustWatch and Reelgood are a Mess and missed out on the chance to be a TVTime successor

So these are the two premier apps that will tell you exactly where you can watch the television shows or movies, whether that’s free streaming, paid streaming, cable television on demand, in theaters, by buying physical media or simply not available to watch anywhere.

They also provide links to many of these options, which I assume they make money on through affiliate marketing

JustWatch is much closer to the “how can I watch this by any legal means” service that I’ve described above whereas Reelgood has a heavy focus on streaming

They aren’t perfect, and they will sometimes say that there’s no way to watch something when in fact there usually is some way to watch it

They are especially bad at telling you how you can watch anime and at linking to movie ticketing services for smaller non-major studio films, and at providing links for purchasing physical copies of media that arent extremely popular and well-known

They of course, are not going to list or link to peer to peer downloading sites or pirate streaming sites

They have both developed their own custom databases that allow them to do these things, and they are the dominant forces in this market

Anyway, back to the point of this post

Both of these “where to watch” services\apps have tried to position themselves as entertainment media tracking apps as well and have put further emphasis on that since the shutdown of TV Time

However, both of them are doing that very poorly

For JustWatch, which I normally asses as the superior of the two apps when it comes to actually telling you where you might be able to watch something, their functionality for signing into or creating an account through other services such as Google Facebook and Apple is currently broken and does not work.

So that’s a complete failure right from the start. I didn’t even bother creating an account through email to test out the media tracking component of the app.

With realgood that account creation feature actually works, but their media tracking is still abysmal

Once you have created an account, you could go to your profile and go to settings and in the menu there is an option called “only show episodes on services”

For a little background on this, Reelgood allows you to indicate which streaming services you’re currently subscribed to

If “only show episodes on services” is turned on as far as their media tracking functionality is concerned it’s only going to show you or track TV show shows and films that are available on services that you have indicated you have a subscription for

However, their big mistake here is that that “only show episodes on services” option is turned on by default.

Unless someone started combing through the features and settings of the app right from the start there’s no way that they would know this.

There’s no warning that the app gives you that the TV shows and movies that you’ve selected to be tracked aren’t going to show up on your watch next list unless they’re available on the subscription services that you’ve indicated you have a subscription for.

I’m not gonna go through every little feature on this apps tracking functionality that isn’t working well or not working at all, but I’ll mention just one other.

When you hit the track button underneath a show that you want to track it automatically takes you to a screen asking you how much of the show you’ve already seen

Lets say you’ve seen all of the episodes that have been released thus far, so you pick the most current episode. The app does not save that.

You have to pick at least one episode earlier than the most currently released episode.

And yes, there is a “seen all” button you can choose rather than the track button underneath the TV show

However, some people might think that the “seen all” button is for indicating that you’ve watched the entirety of the show and that can’t be true with a show that’s still currently releasing episodes

Anyway, these are two very large apps with their own custom databases that they allow other services to use through some kind of financial arrangement.

They are much larger commercial entities than any of the other media tracking apps like Bingers or Sofa Time or Refract or Trakt, etc., with the possible exception of letterboxd (which only tracks films)

I just find it I’m amusing and ironic that despite their vast resources, they have completely dropped the ball when it comes to developing good media tracking features in their apps

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u/EarthRemembers — 1 month ago

I’m the creator of the TVDB and worked as a lead engineer at TV time: AMA

This is relevant to the history of both TV time and the new Bingers app and worth a read

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u/EarthRemembers — 1 month ago

Is Walmart ever going to carry whole pomegranates again?

There have been no pomegranates in the Walmart stores in my region of the country for about two years now

I know they are seasonal and that they are much more available in the United States during the fall and winter months however, in the past they were sold year-round

And as I said above, they haven’t been absent from the walmart stores around me only seasonally, they have been absent from the stores in my region of the country for two or more years now.

In the stores near me when they were in stock, they used to sit in the large bins towards the very front of the grocery section where you often see Roma tomatoes, onions, green peppers, avocados, limes, and other produce

Today I checked Walmart stores all across the country, even including Walmart stores in the regions of California where the vast majority of pomegranates are grown in the United States and it doesn’t seem that a single store in the United States is stocking or has stocked whole pomegranates in 2026, including the past winter of 2026 when pomegranates were most available

Walmart still list pomegranates on its website and their ID number is 44391315 and the price is still listed at $1.98

Of course Walmart sells other pomegranate products such as fresh or frozen pomegranate seeds or Ariel‘s and pomegranate juice

But Walmart always sold pomegranates for one to two dollars cheaper than any other place I could find them in the past.

Is Walmart not able to source whole pomegranates at a price they think they can competitively sell them at?

The other grocery stores in my area have pomegranates on sale off and on, so I know that there are whole pomegranates still being produced and sold to grocery chains but of course those pomegranates are selling for four dollars or more.

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u/EarthRemembers — 1 month ago
▲ 159 r/icecream

A short history of Flintstones Push-Ups: from Drumstick to Nestlé to Frollies, and why you can never have them again

A short history of Flintstones Push-Ups: from Drumstick to Nestlé to Frollies, and why you can never have them again

Flintstones Push-Ups—often just called Push-Up Pops—have a longer and more complicated history than a lot of internet articles give them credit for.

The original 1980s pops

I remember having them for the first time at a friends house in the early 80s when I was very young and thinking that they were one of the best things I had ever tasted.

You’ll often see claims that they were introduced around 1989 or 1990, but that is clearly too late. The earliest company documentation I’ve been able to find definitely places Flintstones Push-Ups in the Drumstick/Big Drum business by 1985. Based on the corporate timeline and the memories of people who were buying them in the early 1980s, I think they were probably introduced sometime around 1981–83 which would fit in with my personal recollection.

Big Drum itself says Alco Standard bought the company in 1980 and lists Flintstones Push-Up in its 1985 history.

Before Nestlé, the product was associated with the Drumstick Company/Big Drum, then owned by Alco Standard.

A surviving pre-Nestlé Flintstones box gives us a useful look at the old formula. The Cave Kid Cherry version listed water, sugar, fresh milk, corn sweetener, fresh cream and whey near the top, followed by flavoring and stabilizers such as guar gum, polysorbate 80, xanthan gum and locust-bean gum. It also contained artificial color.

So the original product was never completely free of gums, emulsifiers or artificial ingredients, but fresh milk was the third ingredient and fresh cream was fifth, making dairy considerably more prominent than it would be in later formulas.

Nestle Ownership 90s-2020

Nestlé acquired Drumstick in 1991, and the 1990s became the product’s biggest marketing era. The Flintstones characters were tied to individual flavors: Fred had Yabba Dabba Doo Orange, Wilma had Lime Rock Lime, Barney had Raspberry Rubble, Dino had Granite Grape, Pebbles and Bamm-Bamm had Cave Kid Cherry, and Baby Puss had Bedrock Berry.

Packages pushed the fact that the treats were fortified with vitamin C, and TV advertising made Push-Ups one of those products almost inseparable from 1990s childhood.

Nestlé also experimented heavily with the basic idea. There were Cool Cream Push-Ups, combining fruity sherbet with vanilla-flavored ice cream, and the wonderfully excessive Pebbles Push-Ups with Nerds candy pieces mixed into them. These varieties were apparently sold from 94 to 97.

Later there were other candy tie-ins as well: Supermarket News reported that Nestlé was introducing a Flintstones Push-Up Laffy Taffy Variety in spring 1997. They were apparently only sold for one year.

The recipe changed too. Later Nestlé Orange Push-Ups listed water, sugar and corn syrup before cream and milk, followed by a much more elaborate stabilizer/emulsifier system that could include guar gum, tragacanth gum, carob-bean gum, polysorbate 80, gum arabic, pectin, xanthan gum and modified corn starch, along with isomalt, dextrose and additional corn starch.

That doesn’t prove exactly how much dairy Nestlé removed, because ingredient labels don’t give percentages, but it does show a real change: milk fell from third place on the old Drumstick label to fourth or fifth behind corn syrup and cream, while the stabilizer system became considerably more complicated.

While the artificial flavoring remained the same these changes by nestle substantially altered the texture and mouth feel of the product.

In my personal opinion the original 1980’s pops were the best.

Eventually the Flintstones license disappeared in 1997 and the product continued simply as Nestlé Push-Up or Nestle Wonka Push-Up, with the lineup largely reduced to Outrageous Orange, Cherry Blast and Turbo Grape.

Dreyers/Froneri ownership & the change to Frollies

Meanwhile, Nestlé merged its U.S. ice-cream business into Dreyer’s in 2003 and gained full ownership of Dreyer’s in 2006. In 2020, Nestlé sold its U.S. ice-cream business to Froneri for $4 billion, with Dreyer’s Grand Ice Cream becoming Froneri’s U.S. operating company.

That brings us to the present. Dreyer’s launched the Frollies brand in 2025, and the old Push-Up format is now sold as Frollies Pop Ups.

Frollies is a Froneri trademark, and the current Pop Ups still come in orange, cherry and grape. The formula has been cleaned up somewhat: Frollies advertises no artificial colors or flavors, with colors coming from sources such as beet juice, turmeric and beta carotene.

With the removal of the original artificial flavors the taste of the Frollies pops are now substantially different.

But it hasn’t returned to the simpler old Drumstick formula. The current Orange Pop Up still contains corn syrup, skim milk, several gums and modified cornstarch, although ingredients such as polysorbate 80, gum arabic, isomalt and dextrose found in some Nestlé-era formulas are gone.

So the various sugar substitutes except for corn syrup, the artificial preservatives, and the artificial colors and flavors are now gone while the pops still retain the less dairy and more thickening agents/stabilizers changes that Nestle introduced.

So the basic cardboard-tube Push-Up has survived for at least four decades, but the company behind it, the Flintstones branding, the flavors, the spin-offs and even the recipe have changed substantially.

I honestly wish that the Frollies brand kept the artificial flavors. I don’t care about the colors but without those flavorings the product is entirely different.

P.S.

Where to buy sherbert push-up pops now:

Frollies ice cream products are sold at several major retailers, but most notably at Walmart, Sam’s Club, Dollar General and Kroger.

If you have one of these stores located near you and they don’t currently stock them you might be able to order them online or request that they get them in stock

Walmart sells their own version of this item called “great value sherbet tubes”. However, as of right now, it seems that they’re only selling them in an orange flavor. Some people online think that these great value sherbet tubes taste very similar to the original Flintstone pops.

The company blue ribbon currently sells sherbet push-up pops that they refer to as cool tubes. They however, mainly sell to convenience stores and food services such as concession stands, schools and other institutions. They are apparently sometimes available at Walmart. And you can apparently order them from blue ribbons website, but I’m not sure how that would work in terms of them not melting.

Stone Ridge creamery makes push-up sherbet pops in an orange and a rainbow variety. They are apparently available at Hugo‘s family marketplace in North Dakota and Minnesota, at Festival Foods in Wisconsin, at cub in Minnesota, and possibly at other locations. A good way to check to see if a product is available in your area is to check on Instacart.

Food club orange sherbet push-up pops are available to be purchased at clark’s market in Colorado, Utah, and Arizona. They are also likely available at other supermarkets that are have topco/food club as a supplier.

Additional push-up pop history:

From 2005 until at least 2012 Nestle also sold Scooby Doo branded push up pops in the same three sherbet flavors as their unbranded pops (orange, cherry, and grape).

They also sold during this time period Scooby Doo branded ice cream pops (mint chip, cookies and cream, chocolate) and low-fat ice cream pops (vannila and chocolate swirl).

Thanks to u/hadr619 for pointing out this video by Weird History Food on them as well

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8iNME5G87x4

This video does get a few things wrong.

They claim the Flintstone push-up pops were introduced in 1990 and that is almost a decade too late.

And they claimed that the push-up pups were discontinued sometime in the late 90s when the truth is that only the Flintstone branding was discontinued in 1997

Other brands that have sold push-up sherbet pops in the past but no longer do include market pantry (target), Schwans, shoppers value, and Jack and Jill.

And by the way, if you are remembering sherbet in push-up tubes even before the 1980s, you’re probably right.

Apparently selling sherbert in push-up tubes goes all the way back to 1959, for Nestle at least. Many people will remember the packaging where the push-up pop tubes were white with multicolored polkadots or circles on them.

Some companies have claimed in their literature that they sold push-up sherbert pops as early as 1955 or 1949 but there’s no strong supporting evidence for that that I could find.

u/EarthRemembers — 1 month ago
▲ 612 r/Flintstones+4 crossposts

A short history of Flintstones Push-Ups: from Drumstick to Nestlé to Frollies, and why you can never have them again

Flintstones Push-Ups—often just called Push-Up Pops—have a longer and more complicated history than a lot of internet articles give them credit for.

The original 1980s pops

I remember having them for the first time at a friends house in the early 80s when I was very young and thinking that they were one of the best things I had ever tasted.

You’ll often see claims that they were introduced around 1989 or 1990, but that is clearly too late. The earliest company documentation I’ve been able to find definitely places Flintstones Push-Ups in the Drumstick/Big Drum business by 1985. Based on the corporate timeline and the memories of people who were buying them in the early 1980s, I think they were probably introduced sometime around 1981–83 which would fit in with my personal recollection.

Big Drum itself says Alco Standard bought the company in 1980 and lists Flintstones Push-Up in its 1985 history.

Before Nestlé, the product was associated with the Drumstick Company/Big Drum, then owned by Alco Standard.

A surviving pre-Nestlé Flintstones box gives us a useful look at the old formula. The Cave Kid Cherry version listed water, sugar, fresh milk, corn sweetener, fresh cream and whey near the top, followed by flavoring and stabilizers such as guar gum, polysorbate 80, xanthan gum and locust-bean gum. It also contained artificial color.

So the original product was never completely free of gums, emulsifiers or artificial ingredients, but fresh milk was the third ingredient and fresh cream was fifth, making dairy considerably more prominent than it would be in later formulas.

Nestle Ownership 90s-2020

Nestlé acquired Drumstick in 1991, and the 1990s became the product’s biggest marketing era. The Flintstones characters were tied to individual flavors: Fred had Yabba Dabba Doo Orange, Wilma had Lime Rock Lime, Barney had Raspberry Rubble, Dino had Granite Grape, Pebbles and Bamm-Bamm had Cave Kid Cherry, and Baby Puss had Bedrock Berry.

Packages pushed the fact that the treats were fortified with vitamin C, and TV advertising made Push-Ups one of those products almost inseparable from 1990s childhood.

Nestlé also experimented heavily with the basic idea. There were Cool Cream Push-Ups, combining fruity sherbet with vanilla-flavored ice cream, and the wonderfully excessive Pebbles Push-Ups with Nerds candy pieces mixed into them. These varieties were apparently sold from 94 to 97.

Later there were other candy tie-ins as well: Supermarket News reported that Nestlé was introducing a Flintstones Push-Up Laffy Taffy Variety in spring 1997. They were apparently only sold for one year.

The recipe changed too. Later Nestlé Orange Push-Ups listed water, sugar and corn syrup before cream and milk, followed by a much more elaborate stabilizer/emulsifier system that could include guar gum, tragacanth gum, carob-bean gum, polysorbate 80, gum arabic, pectin, xanthan gum and modified corn starch, along with isomalt, dextrose and additional corn starch.

That doesn’t prove exactly how much dairy Nestlé removed, because ingredient labels don’t give percentages, but it does show a real change: milk fell from third place on the old Drumstick label to fourth or fifth behind corn syrup and cream, while the stabilizer system became considerably more complicated.

While the artificial flavoring remained the same these changes by nestle substantially altered the texture and mouth feel of the product.

In my personal opinion the original 1980’s pops were the best.

Eventually the Flintstones license disappeared in 1997 and the product continued simply as Nestlé Push-Up or Nestlé Wonka Push-Up, with the lineup largely reduced to Outrageous Orange, Cherry Blast and Turbo Grape.

From 2005 to 2012 they also sold the same exact three flavors of push-up sherbet pops under a Scooby Doo branding. During that same time period they also sold Scooby Doo ice cream pops and Scooby-Doo low-fat ice cream pops.

In 2009 to celebrate its 50th anniversary of push-up Pops Nestlé temporarily brought back Laffy taffy push-up pops in the flavors Barri Berry, Sammi Strawberry and Hannah Banana.

Dreyers/Froneri ownership & the change to Frollies

Meanwhile, Nestlé merged its U.S. ice-cream business into Dreyer’s in 2003 and gained full ownership of Dreyer’s in 2006. In 2020, Nestlé sold its U.S. ice-cream business to Froneri for $4 billion, with Dreyer’s Grand Ice Cream becoming Froneri’s U.S. operating company.

That brings us to the present. Dreyer’s launched the Frollies brand in 2025, and the old Push-Up format is now sold as Frollies Pop Ups.

Frollies is a Froneri trademark, and the current Pop Ups still come in orange, cherry and grape. The formula has been cleaned up somewhat: Frollies advertises no artificial colors or flavors, with colors coming from sources such as beet juice, turmeric and beta carotene.

With the removal of the original artificial flavors the taste of the Frollies pops are now substantially different.

But it hasn’t returned to the simpler old Drumstick formula. The current Orange Pop Up still contains corn syrup, skim milk, several gums and modified cornstarch, although ingredients such as polysorbate 80, gum arabic, isomalt and dextrose found in some Nestlé-era formulas are gone.

So the various sugar substitutes except for corn syrup, the artificial preservatives, and the artificial colors and flavors are now gone while the pops still retain the less dairy and more thickening agents/stabilizers changes that Nestle introduced.

So the basic cardboard-tube Push-Up has survived for at least four decades, but the company behind it, the Flintstones branding, the flavors, the spin-offs and even the recipe have changed substantially.

I honestly wish that the Frollies brand kept the artificial flavors. I don’t care about the colors but without those flavorings the product is entirely different.

P.S.

Where to buy sherbert push-up pops now:

Frollies ice cream products are sold at several major retailers, but most notably at Walmart, Sam’s Club, Dollar General and Kroger.

If you have one of these stores located near you and they don’t currently stock them you might be able to order them online or request that they get them in stock

Walmart sells their own version of this item called “great value sherbet tubes”. However, as of right now, it seems that they’re only selling them in an orange flavor. Some people online think that these great value sherbet tubes taste very similar to the original Flintstone pops.

The company blue ribbon currently sells sherbet push-up pops that they refer to as cool tubes. They however, mainly sell to convenience stores and food services such as concession stands, schools and other institutions. They are apparently sometimes available at Walmart. And you can apparently order them from blue ribbons website, but I’m not sure how that would work in terms of them not melting.

Stone Ridge creamery makes push-up sherbet pops in an orange and a rainbow variety. They are apparently available at Hugo‘s family marketplace in North Dakota and Minnesota, at Festival Foods in Wisconsin, at cub in Minnesota, and possibly at other locations. A good way to check to see if a product is available in your area is to check on Instacart.

Food club orange sherbet push-up pops are available to be purchased at clark’s market in Colorado, Utah, and Arizona. They are also likely available at other supermarkets that are have topco/food club as a supplier.

Popsicle Pop Ups are primarily a single-serve convenience-store/foodservice product. They come in orange and rainbow flavors. You can also purchase them by the case through RocketDSD or Detroit Metro Ice-cream.

Purity Orange Sherbet Pop Ups are a regional Southeast product, its products are distributed throughout Tennessee, Alabama, and Kentucky. They can be found at stores such as Publix and Price Less IGA.

Rainbow pop-ups can be purchased at stores like Kroger’s, CVS, Walgreens and in various convenience stores. You can also order them by the case through RocketDSD. Their only flavor is a raspberry orange, lemon lime swirl.

Additional push-up pop history:

From 2005 until at least 2012 Nestle also sold Scooby Doo branded push up pops in the same three sherbet flavors as their unbranded pops (orange, cherry, and grape).

They also sold during this time period Scooby Doo branded ice cream pops (mint chip, cookies and cream, chocolate) and low-fat ice cream pops (vannila and chocolate swirl).

Thanks to u/hadr619 for pointing out this video by Weird History Food on them as well

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8iNME5G87x4

This video does get a few things wrong.

They claim the Flintstone push-up pops were introduced in 1990 and that is almost a decade too late.

And they claimed that the push-up pups were discontinued sometime in the late 90s when the truth is that only the Flintstone branding was discontinued in 1997

Other brands that have sold push-up sherbet pops in the past but no longer do include market pantry push treats (target), Schwans/Yelloh Push-Ems, Meijer/Purple Cow Orange Gliders, Stater Bros. Push Ups, Fareway Orange Sherbet Push Pops,
shoppers value, Jack and Jill, PET Orange Sherbet Pop Ups, and Pierre’s Slide-Ups.

And by the way, if you are remembering sherbet in push-up tubes even before the 1980s, you’re probably right.

Apparently selling sherbert in push-up tubes goes all the way back to 1959, for Nestle at least. Many people will remember the packaging where the push-up pop tubes were white with multicolored polkadots or circles on them.

Some companies have claimed in their literature that they sold push-up sherbert pops as early as 1955 or 1949 but there’s no strong supporting evidence for that that I could find.

u/EarthRemembers — 1 month ago
▲ 12 r/iPhone17Air+1 crossposts

iPhone 17 “scratchgate” is real and not your fault

https://youtu.be/KrOBzFwVzwA

If your iPhone 17, 17 Pro 17, Pro Max, etc. has experienced scratches or chips in the coloring or “paint” over the aluminum body its not your fault.

Apple did not follow industry standards when applying the colored anodized aluminum coating

This is eventually going to happen to all iPhone 17 models once you’ve owned them long enough

Putting a case on the phone won’t prevent this

The only thing that might prevent it is to buy a clear film or covering that goes over the entire aluminum part of the phone with cutouts for the camera lenses

You then have to put a case on top of that

Having chips in the coloring of your phone case significantly detract from it trade-in value if you’re going to upgrade your phone through a carrier as well as it’s private party sale value, if you were to ever sell it to another person

Apples should have to recall every single one of these phones but they of course will not do that because that would be a huge financial liability for them

There should be a class action lawsuit over this

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u/EarthRemembers — 2 months ago