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Our ummah has become desensitized to zina. It’s been extremely normalized. We are told not to pry into a fornicators past because Allah has hidden it from us. Apparently you’re not supposed to reveal your sins. Because of this, sheikhs, imams, scholars etc have told Zanis to go ahead and hide their past or even lie about it. They love to reference the below hadith.

“All of my ummah will be excused (and forgiven) except those who make their sins public.” The key word here is PUBLIC. Revealing your sins to a MARRIAGE POTENTIAL IN PRIVATE is not the same as revealing it out to the public. If you can’t ask a marriage potential about their current or past sins, how will anyone ever determine if they are religiously compatible or not? How will anyone ever know if they share the same Islamic values or not??
Can you believe all of this nonsense!?!?

When will we stop defending fornicators? JUST because someone repented, doesn’t mean they didn’t commit zina. Your past matters. It always has and it always will. I know innocent virgin girls who married men without asking about their past, only to get infected with STDs and STIs.

Edit: this post wasn’t directed towards any gender. Both genders have been given the free pass to commit zina unfortunately

Asalam alaikum everyone

I met a revert (of 6 years) on Muzz and from the beginning I noticed there are huge differences between us. I liked him, I thought he was really cute and he really loved Islam. In terms of religious practice we were both on the same page. He was very interested and very persistent, and said so many sweet things to me, even though I told him several times from the beginning that I have doubts about our compatibility. There was a huge discrepancy in life experiences.

He came from a broken home, lived a very rough life on the streets, had been with multiple woman, lived with a woman and was actively trying to have kids with her while they lived together, was working a gray collar job, etc.

Now compared to my life experiences, there was a stark difference. I had come from a more stable home, have no exposure to the rough street life, lived a very sheltered life, have 0 sexual history, and work a white collar job.

Now before I go further I’m not saying that one life experience is better than the other. I don’t claim to be better than him, he just lived a life that was just very different from mine. I didn’t look at it from a judgmental perspective because he wasn’t even Muslim at the time. But the huge discrepancy in life experiences did bother me because it was just sooo different and it came with so much baggage.

I also want someone with a more limited sexual history because I’m a virgin. It didn’t bother me that he wasn’t a virgin, but it did bother me that he doesn’t know how many women he’s slept with. It bothered me that he didn’t believe me when I told him that I was a virgin and have no sexual history, because apparently every woman on Muzz claims to be perfectly pure, which is hard to believe according to him. He did try to give me lots of reassure about his past but I couldn’t get over it so he called me insecure.

Now his job, he didn’t have a consistent career, was working 2 jobs and was trying to become a cop, something I wasn’t ok with because I just don’t want my spouse working in such a dangerous, high risk career. Because of this he called me shallow. He said it shouldn’t matter how much money he currently makes because he’s working really hard. My parents would have a problem with his career situation.

When he reverted, I don’t think he understood how the marriage process worked in our community. I think it was much easier for him to be in a relationship when he wasn’t Muslim. And when he reverted, he realized how difficult it is to get married in the Muslim community. I mentioned something like “yeah dating for white people is different” and he just blew up on me and called me racist. He’s said some racist things in the past too like “your people are shallow” and “your people have no manners” but I didn’t really care. I didn’t think it was that big of a deal. He’s probably saying this because he might have gotten rejected a lot because of his history.

I did mention that my family might be hesitant for me to marry outside my culture and they might be hesitant with “a white cop”. But that was my family’s comment, not mine. I AM open to other cultures. He called me racist again. If I were racist then I would have never matched with him and never talked to him.

I feel bad because I know it’s harder for reverts to get married. I liked him but there are just many differences. I don’t think I did anything wrong by ending things but he seems very bitter about it and is calling me shallow, insecure and racist. Am I not allowed to have preferences?

Guys, I thought I could look over a reverts past, because of obvious reasons. I thought it wouldn’t bother me since they had mistakes when they weren’t even Muslim and they have a clean slate after reverting. I feel horrible for not being comfortable his past.

I was talking to a revert who seems really sweet. When I casually asked when was his last relationship or how long ago it was, he shut down all of my questions. He said he will not be answering any question about past relationships, regardless if they were about sexual history or not. I later told him that I don’t feel comfortable marrying someone without knowing their past and I tried to reject him. But he seemed very interested and kept talking to me. Ngl Iike talking to him too which is why it’s hard to end things.

Then, later he said “fine I’m a virgin just like you.” He also said that every single Muslim woman he’s talked to for marriage claims to be a perfectly pure Muslim woman who’s never had boyfriends and he knows that some of them are lying because it’s obvious. He never asked about my past. He doesn’t care if I have a past or not and wouldn’t believe me if I told him that I didn’t have a sexual history because apparently I’m “too gorgeous” to not have lots of men interested in me. Well, I have had men interested in me but alhamdullilah I never crossed haram boundaries. I always kept things halal, never had a boyfriend, and never done anything sexual with someone. It also kinda hurts that he just doesn’t care that I’m pure; he actually accuses me of lying about being a virgin.

After I tried to end things he said he felt hurt because we are so compatible in literally all other areas. Then he confessed that he’s not a virgin (obviously, since he reverted at an older age). So here’s the problem, I knew he’s not a virgin because he’s an older revert. But him being so incredibly secretive about his past makes me uncomfortable. To me there’s a difference in doing zina 1 time with 1 woman (which I can for sure overlook) or having committed Zina with 100 woman. The latter makes me uncomfortable regardless if he repented or not. He told me he doesn’t know how many women he’s been with.

He doesn’t feel comfortable sharing details and I don’t want to make him uncomfortable, but I also don’t feel comfortable moving forward without knowing details. He did subtly hint at the fact that he’s been with multiple. He also lived with a girlfriend before, which is something I don’t like because that seems like a whole marriage to me. Like if you’re living with someone, in my mind that equates to basically living a married life. At that point, I’d rather just marry a divorcee since they had done things the right way.

I am sad feeling like this towards him because again he’s a revert. I thought I could get over a reverts past. I guess the only way I would be able to get over it was if he had a very limited sexual history. Like if he had committed Zina 10 years ago and maybe with just one woman. He doesn’t want to share details.

What should I do? I suffer from severe retroactive jealousy and I know this will probably bother me a lot and I’ll keep second guessing my decisions. I’ll always have it in the back of my mind that I could have married someone with little or no sexual history. I’ve suffered from nightmares and OCD thoughts about marrying someone with a promiscuous past. I’ve even done research on how to get over it, but I guess I just can’t change how I think. I feel horrible for feeling like this about a revert 😭. I’m 31 btw.

This all of this a red flag? Should i continue talking to him or no?

I am 31F virgin, who’s waiting until marriage for religious and personal reasons. Ideally I’d like to marry someone with a limited sexual history. Obviously he doesn’t even have to be a virgin.

I met this sweet guy on an app. When I casually asked when was his last relationship, he shut down all of my questions. He said he will not be answering any question about past relationships, regardless if they were about sexual history or not. I later told him that I don’t feel comfortable marrying someone without knowing their past and I tried to reject him. But he seemed very interested and kept talking to me. Ngl Iike talking to him too which is why it’s hard to end things.

Then, later he said “fine I’m a virgin just like you.” He doesn’t care if I have a past or not. He didn’t believe me when I told him that I didn’t have a sexual history because apparently I’m “too gorgeous” to not have lots of men interested in me. Well, I have had men interested in me but I am very conservative I never crossed sexual boundaries, as I make it very clear with everyone that I’m waiting until marriage.

After I tried to end things he said he felt hurt because we are so compatible in literally all other areas. Then he confessed that he’s not a virgin (obviously, since he’s in this 30s, I’m not even expecting a virgin at this point). So here’s the problem, I knew he’s not a virgin because he’s older. But him being so incredibly secretive about his past makes me uncomfortable. To me there’s a difference in having 1 sexual partner you were in a committed relationship with (which won’t bother me) or having a body count of 100+. He’s become religous in the past few years and is waiting until marriage now.

He doesn’t feel comfortable sharing details and I don’t want to make him uncomfortable, but I also don’t feel comfortable moving forward without knowing details. He did subtly hint at the fact that he’s been with multiple. He also lived with a girlfriend before, which is something I don’t like because that seems like a whole marriage to me. Like if you’re living with someone, in my mind that equates to basically living a married life. Like in my mind he’s basically a divorcee at this point.

I hate feeling like this towards him because he seems very sweet and he’s putting in a lot of effort. I thought I could get over a guys past. I guess the only way I would be able to get over it was if he had a very limited sexual history.

What should I do? I suffer from severe retroactive jealousy and I know this will probably bother me a lot and I’ll keep second guessing my decisions. I’ll always have it in the back of my mind that I could have married someone with little or no sexual history. I’ve suffered from nightmares and OCD thoughts about marrying someone with a busy past. I’ve even done research on how to get over it, but I guess I just can’t change how I feel.

I know of a Muslim woman who was a virgin when she married her husband. She never asked about his past saying it’s between him and Allah; she didn’t care if he had been with 0 women or 1,000 women.

After marriage she went to the gyno and found out that she had HPV. For those of you who don’t know about HPV, it’s an STD that can lay dormant for many years, even decades, and many people will never know they have it. Her husband probably didn’t know he had it, and probably never even got tested for it since he had no symptoms and no warts. THERE IS NO APPROVED HPV TESTING FOR MEN. Because of this she started having health problems.

Now, Muslims who love to say:
“Hide your past, no one will ever find out”
“They repented for their sins”
“Past doesn’t matter”

After reading this story, does your answer change?

How does past not matter in this case? If he hid his sins, she obviously found out that he had done zina in the past because he gave her an STD. Repentance doesn’t make someone’s STDs go away. This is more common than you think since majority of the sexually active adults in USA have/had HPV and it can flare up years down the road, even after decades.

Thoughts?

Like what’s the problem? Even virgins get super defensive about it. Are we no longer allowed to have standards?? As a 31 year old virgin who’s never even held hands or kissed, I think I have the right to some standards, don’t I?

I come from a community and family that makes it even more difficult to stay this pure. Yet Alhamdulilah I have discipline and self control; I lower my gaze and I don’t flirt. And I’m not even looking for someone as pure as me. I feel like I’m very reasonable.

“You’re not allowed to ask about or reveal sins” well yeahhhhhh but you’re also not allowed to hoe around either, right? The good thing is that men voluntarily tell me their past without me even having to ask them. Alhamdulilah for that.

I’m curious to know those who married fornicators (for lack of a better term), has their past affected your marriage at all?

I’m a little worried because I have family members that didn’t care about past at all, and it came back to haunt them. They have been given STDs or have been cheated on. Or their spouse is into weird sexual things. But I’m sure not all fornicators bring this baggage with them in marriages.

I’m sure there are stories of those who married zanis and their past hasn’t affected their marriage at all, Alhamdulilah. I have a close cousin who’s considering a man who’s lived a very promiscuous life (apparently he’s changed) and I’m a little worried. He seems very honest, religious, and kind but I’m having scary thoughts. What if he physically cheats on her? What if he has STDs that he doesn’t know about (some STDs are not detectable in men).

I’m wondering if there are any positive stories out there.

I’m curious to know those who married fornicators (for lack of a better term), has their past affected your marriage at all?

I’m a little worried because I have family members that didn’t care about past at all, and it came back to haunt them. They have been given STDs or have been cheated on. Or their spouse is into weird sexual things. But I’m sure not all fornicators bring this baggage with them in marriages.

I’m sure there are stories of those who married zanis and their past hasn’t affected their marriage at all, Alhamdulilah. I have a close cousin who’s considering a man who’s lived a very promiscuous life (apparently he’s changed) and I’m a little worried. He seems very honest, religious, and kind but I’m having scary thoughts. What if he physically cheats on her? What if he has STDs that he doesn’t know about (some STDs are not detectable in men).

I’m wondering if there are any positive stories out there.

Salam everyone

I’m giving this another shot. I’m about to turn 31 years old and I just want to find my husband. Loyalty, monogamy, respect, love, honesty, kindness, and taqwa are all really important to me. I just want someone genuine and sincere with strong morals. I don’t plan on moving from the tristate area.

What I’d imagine my married life to be like:
I just want a simple and happy marriage. I want to have 4 kids ideally, and I plan on prioritizing family and raising my kids after marriage and living a somewhat traditional family life. I believe transparency between spouses builds and maintains trust🤲

Here’s some info about me:

Height: 5’3
Citizen: Born and raised in USA
Education: Bachelors Business administration accounting
Residence: NYC, not willing to relocate from TriState area
Languages: Urdu, English
Religion: Practicing Sunni Muslim, prays 5x a day, fasts, god conscious
Job: currently working in human services
Ethnicity: Pakistani
Marital Status: Never Married
Hobbies: gym, going on walks, eating out, exploring the city, hanging out with friends and family

Looking for:
Age: 29-35
Educated: Bachelors at least
Job: Anything stable
Residence: tristate area
Height: 5’6 at least
Raised in North America
Looking for a practicing Muslim who’s god fearing/god conscious, faithful, kind, respectful.

Dealbreakers: drinking, drugs, partying, dishonesty, having bad character.

I held 9 accounting jobs during my 7 year career. Here’s what my experience looks like:

Graduated university in 2017

2017: 3 month internship
2018: 3 month temp contract job
2018: 6 month job, got fired because I had imposter syndrome and the old ladies I reported to were mean to me
2019: 2.5 years job, my first real big girl job 🫶
2021: 9 months, got laid off after being promised to be promoted
2022: 3 months job, panicked and accepted the first job offer I got after the lay off. Hated it.
2022: 3 week job! I accepted this job because I wanted to get out of the job above, but was anticipating an offer from the job below. Left as soon as I got the offer from the below position. This company went bankrupt so it worked out the best for me.
2023: 2 years job, my most tolerable accounting job ❤️
2025: 6 months, lost patience and wanted to leave accounting for good.

Total: about 7 years of accounting, left it for good now.

Obviously I know this is a huge red flag. The reason I kept jumping around was because I just wasn’t happy in accounting. I kept thinking maybe this next job will be good. Man was I wrong. Every few weeks, I was anticipating quitting. I was completely drained 🫩

Half way thru my career, I realized I just couldn’t tolderate accounting anymore. I spent 3 years thinking of ways to either pivot into something else or do a complete career change. It took me 3 years to work up the courage to walk away from a career that I started to hate. The pay didn’t even matter to me anymore. I couldn’t work in accounting for another minute.

I applied to hundreds, maybe even thousands of jobs. And yes, I did become an expert at doing interviews 😅.

For those who are curious, I only included the ones that are in bold are on my resume.

For the past year, I went into a human services and I love it. I wish I had made the change sooner. Best decision of my life.

I held 9 accounting jobs during my 7 year career. Here’s what my experience looks like:

Graduated university in 2017

2017: 3 month internship
2018: 3 month temp contract job
2018: 6 month job, got fired because I had imposter syndrome and the old ladies I reported to were mean to me
2019: 2.5 years job, my first real big girl job 🫶
2021: 9 months, got laid off after being promised to be promoted
2022: 3 months job, panicked and accepted the first job offer I got after the lay off. Hated it.
2022: 3 week job! I accepted this job because I wanted to get out of the job above, but was anticipating an offer from the job below. Left as soon as I got the offer from the below position. This company went bankrupt so it worked out the best for me.
2023: 2 years job, my most tolerable accounting job ❤️
2025: 6 months, lost patience and wanted to leave accounting for good.

Total: about 7 years of accounting, left it for good now.

Obviously I know this is a huge red flag. The reason I kept jumping around was because I just wasn’t happy in accounting. I kept thinking maybe this next job will be good. Man was I wrong. Every few weeks, I was anticipating quitting. I was completely drained 🫩

Half way thru my career, I realized I just couldn’t tolderate accounting anymore. I spent 3 years thinking of ways to either pivot into something else or do a complete career change. It took me 3 years to work up the courage to walk away from a career that I started to hate. The pay didn’t even matter to me anymore. I couldn’t work in accounting for another minute.

I applied to hundreds, maybe even thousands of jobs. And yes, I did become an expert at doing interviews 😅.

For those who are curious, I only included the ones that are in bold are on my resume.

For the past year, I went into a human services and I love it. I wish I had made the change sooner. Best decision of my life.

This is a question for women who are career oriented with high earning salaries(doctors, lawyers, engineers, STEM workers, etc). Will you be contributing financially once you’re married?

A lot of men go for successful women because they want them to contribute financially (given that household and children responsibilities will be split).

I’ve met my friend about a few years ago in college. She’s a political science major and I’m in business analytics. We weren’t that close initially but started talking/seeing each other daily at school a few years ago.

Generally I think she’s really nice and we like to advice and help each other. The problem is that I don’t really like her. We bonded over similar traumas and learned faith together. But other than that we don’t have much in common.

I don’t enjoy spending time with her and I think she’s boring. She sends me messages about her daily life that I find completely useless and boring to talk about. It’s almost like reading a blog on an influencer who I don’t really care to know so much about. Even though I talk to her more than some of my other friends, I feel like I’m closer to others. She calls me her sister (she’s not close to her real sisters) but I don’t feel the same towards her.

There are some personality and value differences between us which generally I think it’s ok to have between friends. For example, I’m conservative and she’s liberal. She says she’s very open minded and says she’s non judgy but that’s not true. She often says that I’m extremely judgmental but she judges others too, just for different reasons.

I find that I tend to judge people based on their values and life style and she judges them based off of intellect. Maybe we’re both wrong here but that’s just how we think.

One thing that really annoys me is me that she feels like she has to be the best at everything. When there is something that she doesn’t know about, or there is something she’s not great at, she gets really embarrassed. Like bro, it’s ok not to be the smartest or highest achiever in the room. I have friends who are in med school and even they don’t act like this. They aren’t obsessed with being the best and the brightest. Generally speaking, she’s pretty humble in other ways.

I don’t want to ghost her because I know that’s wrong and I’d feel hurt if someone did that to me. I’m sure I’m not perfect either and have my flaws too, but it seems like she’s more interested in being friends with me me than I am with her. But I also don’t ever feel like talking to her or seeing her. Should I slowly become distant?

The past couple of years, my family has gone thru some extremely strange/shocking experiences. Things that we would have never thought of has happened to us.

My sister’s marriage problems. Her husband was abusive, neglectful, always threatening divorce, kicked her out like 10 times, watches porn, disappears all night, and talked to girls on dating apps. This was the man that everyone vouched for and guaranteed a happy life with him. So this was very unexpected.

Alhamdullilah my sister lived a very healthy life, until during/after pregnancy, she started having lots of health problems. She had several pregnancy complications and ended up giving birth unexpectedly at 26 weeks.

Next year, my sister suddenly got lice out of no where. No one else in my our family had it. No one had travelled anywhere abroad. It was just her, she got it out of no where. We live in the west where it’s extremely rare to get lice. Extremely strange.

My mom had a very close relationship with her older sister and my cousin. My cousin even referred to my mom as her second mom. One day, my sister’s husband and in laws started getting phone calls from private numbers. They were putting false accusations on my sister and our family to break the marriage. It turns out that the phone calls were coming from my older aunt and my cousin. My mom couldn’t believe it. She was incredibly close to both of them. She had raised my cousin as her own child. How can they break trust of 60+ years?? 60 years of trust and relationship gone! This had NEVER happened before.

Later that same year, my cousin broke my trust by back stabbing me. I have known my cousin since birth. We called eachother sisters. I fully trusted her. She never used to talk bad about anyone behind their back. So why me, why break my trust after 25 years! We never got into fights, EVER.

Now my sister’s divorce. After all she had been thru with her husband, she’s getting a divorce. Her husband claimed that he loves his daughter more than anyone else in the world. Initially during the separation he was very involved in her life. But now slowly he’s detached himself from her. He can go weeks without seeing his own daughter and it doenst seem like he cares about her anymore.

All of these issues happened in the course of 2 years. Keep in mind that some of these relations were stable for decades, until recently.

A couple of months ago, while doing a deep clean, I found a black magic. I had to google it and found out that it’s sihr/black magic. The way it’s written, it’s supposed to trick people into thinking that it’s Islamic because it starts off with Allahs name. I ripped the paper into pieces, threw it all into a lake, and played Surah baqrah at home. I have no idea who put that there at how long we’ve had that there.

Keep in mind I had down ruqya several times on everyone during this time period even before I found the Sihr. Things have not gotten better after getting rid of it either. Is there any hope for things to get batter? Or is the result of the black magic permanent?

The past couple of years, my family has gone thru some extremely strange/shocking experiences. Things that we would have never thought of has happened to us.

My sister’s marriage problems. Her husband was abusive, neglectful, always threatening divorce, kicked her out like 10 times, watches porn, disappears all night, and talked to girls on dating apps. This was the man that everyone vouched for and guaranteed a happy life with him. So this was very unexpected.

Alhamdullilah my sister lived a very healthy life, until during/after pregnancy, she started having lots of health problems. She had several pregnancy complications and ended up giving birth unexpectedly at 26 weeks.

Next year, my sister suddenly got lice out of no where. No one else in my our family had it. No one had travelled anywhere abroad. It was just her, she got it out of no where. We live in the west where it’s extremely rare to get lice. Extremely strange.

My mom had a very close relationship with her older sister and my cousin. My cousin even referred to my mom as her second mom. One day, my sister’s husband and in laws started getting phone calls from private numbers. They were putting false accusations on my sister and our family to break the marriage. It turns out that the phone calls were coming from my older aunt and my cousin. My mom couldn’t believe it. She was incredibly close to both of them. She had raised my cousin as her own child. How can they break trust of 60+ years?? 60 years of trust and relationship gone! This had NEVER happened before.

Later that same year, my cousin broke my trust by back stabbing me. I have known my cousin since birth. We called eachother sisters. I fully trusted her. She never used to talk bad about anyone behind their back. So why me, why break my trust after 25 years! We never got into fights, EVER.

Now my sister’s divorce. After all she had been thru with her husband, she’s getting a divorce. Her husband claimed that he loves his daughter more than anyone else in the world. Initially during the separation he was very involved in her life. But now slowly he’s detached himself from her. He can go weeks without seeing his own daughter and it doenst seem like he cares about her anymore.

All of these issues happened in the course of 2 years. Keep in mind that some of these relations were stable for decades, until recently.

A couple of months ago, while doing a deep clean, I found a black magic. I had to google it and found out that it’s sihr/black magic. The way it’s written, it’s supposed to trick people into thinking that it’s Islamic because it starts off with Allahs name. I ripped the paper into pieces, threw it all into a lake, and played Surah baqrah at home. I have no idea who put that there at how long we’ve had that there.

Keep in mind I had down ruqya several times on everyone during this time period even before I found the Sihr. Things have not gotten better after getting rid of it either. Is there any hope for things to get batter? Or is the result of the black magic permanent?

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After working in corporate accounting for 6 years, I was successfully able tol pivot into a financial operations/compliance role. I was there for about 6 months until I realized that I didn’t really like this job that much either. I had worked in quite an exclusive industry (entertainment, uhnw, sports, etc) and I feel like a lot of people wouldn’t understand why I left when I had so much potential.

I wasn’t happy working in accounting or any finance office job. The never ending deadlines, unnecessary sense of urgency, acting like I cared about the work, staring at the computer for up to 12+ on a daily basis, etc. Don’t get me wrong, I don’t regret my career at all. I feel like I was able to challenge myself, built my confidence, learned a lot and saved a lot of money. But I just couldn’t stand doing that even for another minute.

In the past year, I had switched to working in social services. I love it and my mental health has never been better. I never have to think about work outside of working hours. I work 3 12 hour shifts and get to spend the rest of my time doing things that I love. The problem is that my pay is significantly lower. I’ve noticed that people just don’t respect my work anymore.

To most people, now I’m “just an aid”. I had no idea how much lack of respect I’d have to deal with. I’m also concerned about the lack of pay growth in this career path.

Has anyone switched out of accepting and regretted it? Sometimes I doubt my decisions but I can always go back if I wanted…

Salam everyone

I’m not Arab, I’m South Asian American. In our culture, the sons don’t move out even after marrlage. In a lot of traditional desi families, the daughter in law is expected to cook, clean, take care, and live with her husband’s parents/his family. Not only is this a very unislamic practice, but it’s also a very misogynistic tradition that has destroyed many marrlages.

So how do Arabs make it work? In Arab culture, both daughters and sons move out after marriage and there are no exceptions for the daughter in law to live with or take care her in laws. I know Arab culture gives women many of their Islamic rights and they would never place this burden on daughter in laws.

So what happens if all of the children get married? Who do the parents live with if they are old, sick, retired, or have limited income? What’s the right/islamic way to do things?

Salam everyone

I’m not Arab, I’m South Asian American. In our culture, the sons don’t move out even after marrlage. In a lot of traditional desi families, the daughter in law is expected to cook, clean, take care, and live with her husband’s parents/his family. Not only is this a very unislamic practice, but it’s also a very misogynistic tradition that has destroyed many marrlages.

So how do Arabs make it work? In Arab culture, both daughters and sons move out after marriage and there are no exceptions for the daughter in law to live with or take care her in laws. I know Arab culture gives women many of their Islamic rights and they would never place this burden on daughter in laws.

So what happens if all of the children get married? Who do the parents live with if they are old, sick, retired, or have limited income? What’s the right/islamic way to do things?