Who I think inspired different HOTD characters

Sorry if this has been discussed on here before, but I did some reading on the Anarchy (the civil war that inspired the Dance) and thought it was so interesting that I would share who I thought HOTD characters were based on!

Rhaenyra: Empress Matilda

Matilda was born in 1107 and was the daughter of Henry I of England and Matilda of Scotland. She was her parents’ eldest child and had a younger brother named William. As William was heir, Matilda was married off to Henry V, Holy Roman Emperor. The couple had no children and Henry died in 1125.

In 1120, Matilda’s little brother, William (also known as William Adelin) perished in the White Ship Disaster. Henry I had no other legitimate children; therefore, when Matilda was widowed, he recalled her to England and married her to Geoffrey of Anjou to ensure the southern reaches of the kingdom were protected (England held lands in France during this era). Henry then declared her his heiress. He made his court swear oaths of fidelity to her; however, many nobles were not happy about this. Matilda‘s husband was from a family historically at war against England, and there was of course the matter of Matilda being a woman. Matilda herself was not fond of her husband initially, and (much like Rhaenyra in FoB) had to be forced by her less than amused father to marry him. She even tried to separate from him for a time before being coerced to return. In the end, she and Geoffrey had three sons, the oldest of whom was named Henry.

Henry came to odds with Matilda in the 1130s, as Matilda demanded for him to coronate her, have Norman nobles make oaths to her( and grant her castles and lands while he still lived. This was likely because Matilda sensed her claim to the throne was unpopular and wanted to strengthen her Claim. Henry, however, suspected that Geoffrey wanted to usurp him and denied Matilda. In retaliation, Matilda and Geoffrey gave military support to rebels in southern Normandy. In the midst of this turmoil, Henry died in 1135.

As Matilda was preoccupied fighting the royal army in southern Normandy, the stage was set for an usurper to claim the throne. Snd as Matilda’s claim wasn’t universally agreed upon, the nobles immediately crowned a man named Stephen de Bois (who I will return to) king. Matilda did not accept this. She allied with her maternal uncle, David I of Scotland, and her illegitimate half-brother, Robert, who helped her cross into England from France in 1139. David and Robert supported Matilda’s fight in England, while her husband Geoffrey conquered Normandy from Stephen’s forces. Matilda captured Stephen in 1141 and imprisoned him. She then started to secure her succession and had Henry of Winchester, an important church figure, declare her as the new leader of England and Normandy. But many church leaders and soldiers remained loyal to Stephen and the London civilians, fearful of being killed by these soldiers, refused to allow Matilda to be coronated at Westminster Abbey.

Things got worse for Matilda, as she and Henry of Winchester had a falling-out and he declared Stephen the rightful ruler. Stephen’s wife had kept his cause alive and commanded an army to surround Winchester. Matilda managed to escape, but her half-brother Robert, one of her most important military men, was captured. Matilda negotiated to release Stephen so that Robert could be freed.

Stephen and his wife were re-crowned in November of 1141 and the war turned into a long stalemate. Matilda controlled the southwest of England, while Stephen controlled London and the north. Stephen came close to capturing Matilda a couple of times, but she managed to escape. The tides slowly turned against Matilda, however, as her half-brother Robert and several other of her military commanders died of illness ot accidents and many of her men also joined the Crusades. Matilda also went through much of her money. Her oldest son with Geoffrey, named Henry, started to take the initiative in many of her battles and made a name for himself. But due to financial issues and a lack of support from the church, Matilda returned to Normandy in 1148. She made one last attempt to return to England in 1153, but by then, neither side was particularly keen to keep fighting. A truce was brokered: her son Henry recognized Stephen as king, and in turn, Stephen recognized Henry as his heir.

Matilda spent the rest of her life in Normandy, which she ruled. When her son Henry was crowned king in 1154, Matilda became his advisor. She negotiated several deals to keep peace between England and the Holy Roman Empire and France. She also became devoted to faith in her later years. Matilda died in 1167 and is buried in Rouen Cathedral in France.

Viserys: Henry I

There isn’t as much to say about Henry. He was the son of William the Conqueror and fought his older brothers Robert Curthose and William Rufus for the crown. He was considered to be a harsh but efficient ruler who played different nobles for support and negotiated reform in the church. But Henry had only two legitimate children: Matilda and William, and when William died, he was left heirless. He did have many illegitimate children with a multitude of mistresses, but at the time, it was frowned upon for bastards to be heirs. As his first wife was dead, he re-married Adeliza of Louvain in the hopes of having a son, but they had no children. As Matilda was widowed, Henry re-married her to Geoffrey in the hopes that the marriage could secure the kingdom and she would bear children. As Matilda gave birth to her son Henry II, Henry I declared her (and her children) to be his heir and made his nobles swear oaths to her. But Matilda and Henry had a strained relationship before he died in 1135, due to her demand for further support of her rule and his distrust of her husband.

Jacaerys: William Adelin

William Adelin, Matilda’s little brother, was destined to be heir to the throne. He served as his father’s regent in 1118 after his mother died while Henry I was in Normandy. He had also been given political power in Normandy and was referred to as the ‘king designate’.

Unfortunately, William perished in the White Ship disaster. A great party of nobles, including Henry I, William, his illegitimate siblings Matilda and Richard, and a very certain Stephen de Bois were set to sail from Normandy to England. Henry and some people in his party set off first. William’s ship’s crew wanted to drink, and William supplied them with plenty of wine with his father’s consent. The group therefore spent a long time drinking copious amounts of alcohol while the king sailed away. Stephen de Bois noticed how drunk everyone was getting, realized this situation wasn’t very safe, and departed the group, intending to sail back to England another day. Which saved his life. After drinking for a while, William ordered the ship’s crew to catch up to his father (their ship, known as the White Ship, was the fastest in the royal fleet). Unfortunately, due to the late hour and how much alcohol had been consumed, the ship struck a submerged rock and capsized. William had actually boarded a lifeboat and could have escaped, but turned back to save his half-sister Matilda, who couldn’t swim. People in the water who saw William’s lifeboat clamored to climb aboard, and the boat capsized, killing William, Matilda, and all else on board. Out of the 200+ people on the ship that night, only one person, a butcher from Rouen, lived. The ship‘s captain managed to make it on a lifeboat, but when he was told that William Adelin had perished, he chose to jump into the sea instead of facing Henry.

Aegon II: Stephen de Bois

This should make sense, as Stephen was the usurper of Matilda’s throne. But Stephen was not Matilda’s brother. He was her cousin. And in my opinion, he is a more nuanced and more interesting version of Aegon II.

Stephen’s father, Stephen-Robert, had a reputation for cowardice in battle. Stephen-Robert set off on the Crusades to prove he wasn’t a coward and promptly died. Stephen was 8-10. His mother, Adela, was Henry I’s sister and was renowned for her strong personality. She raised Stephen herself and gave Stephen and his brothers different educations to steer them toward different jobs. Theobald, her oldest (intellectually stable) son was heir to Bois, and Adela gave Stephen an education fitting to be a baron or feudal knight. His younger brother Henry meanwhile was educated to be a clergy member. Consequently, the brothers were all very close, which was not a given in those times. These close relationships helped Stephen consolidate power later in life.

Adela later placed Stephen in Henry I’s court so he could gain military experience and the support of a valuable patron. As Stephen was a relative of Henry but so far behind in the succession that he posed little threat to Henry or William Adelin, Henry welcomed him with open arms. Henry even arranged for Stephen to marry Matilda of Boulogne, whose lands and fortunes made Stephen a very wealthy man. His wife was also quite intelligent and proved a crucial ally in Stephen‘s power struggle.

Stephen therefore served the English court and developed a great reputation. He was considered well-mannered, modest and easy-going, and was noted to be happy to eat dinner alongside his servants and share jokes and laughter with them. He was also very generous to the church and was extremely pious, and encouraged for new abbeys to be built on whatever lands he owned. He was also known to be a man of firm action when needed, and seemed quite intelligent; he escaped the White Ship disaster by realizing that the situation was about to spiral out of control. Empress Matilda was not noted for her humility and kindness and her husband, Geoffrey, was descended from the historic enemies of England. Matilda was also a woman. So after Henry I died, many nobles decided that the well-liked Stephen deserved the crown.

Furthermore, Stephen was in Boulogne when Henry I died, while Matilda and Geoffrey were further away in Anjou and fighting rebels. As soon as Stephen heard the news that Henry I was dead and the nobles supported his right to rule, he sailed for England. When he arrived, the people of London elected him king, and Stephen began to consolidate power across England. He gave many liberties to the church and his younger brother Henry de Bois, part of the clergy, was able to convince many people to support Stephen’s claim. Stephen’s older brother Theobald briefly considered trying to become king of England, but Stephen’s claim was much more popular, and Stephen, being incredibly wealthy, gave Theobald lots of money as compensation: Theobald therefore gave Stephen full backing.

Stephen was crowned king on 22 December 1135. He attempted to consolidate his power across the kingdom, but when Matilda sailed from Anjou to take her throne, many nobles defected to her side. Thus began the Anarchy, which composed much of Stephen’s reign.

Stephen was captured in the Battle of Lincoln in 1141; he was noted for his refusal to retreat, even after many of his men fled. Empress Matilda had him imprisoned in Bristol Castle, initially in good conditions, but later in chains. His wife Matilda pled for his release, but the empress refused. Luckily for Stephen, many men were still loyal to him, and the people of London refused to let the empress be crowned. The church was also on Stephen’s side. His wife Matilda, meanwhile, proved to be loyal and quite a shrewd military mastermind, and she rallied an army in support of Stephen. They defeated Matilda at Winchester, captured the empress’s half-brother, and used him as a pawn to negotiate Stephen’s release.

The crowds of London enthusiastically re-crowned Stephen and his wife Matilda king and queen. Stephen spent the rest of his reign trying to consolidate power and capture Matilda, but she managed to evade him. Stephen did keep more of his wealth than Matilda, but it was depleted during the war. He therefore sought to end it and started to forge a good relationship with Matilda’s son, Henry. When Henry tried attacking England in 1147, his mercenaries turned against him due to Matilda not having the money to pay them. As a token of goodwill, Stephen paid their wages, allowing Henry to return to Normandy.

Stephen and his wife Matilda had two sons named Eustace and William, and his wife pushed for Eustace to become king; however, after Matilda died , Stephen negotiated peace with Empress Matilda under the condition of Henry becoming his heir. This may be due to Eustace having a poor reputation. Eustace died in the following months, while William was suspected of plotting against Henry and fled to Normandy, where he died of disease aged 22. Stephen died the following year after naming Henry heir.

Alicent: Matilda of Boulogne

Stephen‘s wife Matilda was, perhaps, the empress’s greatest female rival. She was wealthy, devoted to her husband, and proved to be quite courageous. Her contemporaries regarded her as someone who bore herself with the valor of a man. And when Empress Matilda refused to let Stephen go, it was Queen Matilda who rallied an army to Stephen’s cause and successfully won his release. She continued to advise Stephen after his release and is regarded as the reason why Stephen became king.

There are more characters I could summarize, but this took me such a long time to type and my hands are killing me haha. Please tell me what you think of my analyses, snd again, sorry it this has been covered before!

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u/Senior_Fig7845 — 8 hours ago
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There has to be a better way to reach people.

A common rhetoric I see on here is that we vegans are absolutely right and those who don’t quite follow in our footsteps are genocidal rapists. And yes, the animal industry is evil and exploits billions of animals, speaking in that tone just isn’t going to convince a lot of people to go vegan.

What is the end goal of veganism? I’d say it is to ensure every animal has the right to live their life without being exploited by humans. But to make that happen, you need to convince more of the public. And, well, people are multifaceted and as unique as snowflakes. No two people look and think the same way. But I have noticed a few traits that seem to prevail across backgrounds: no one likes being preached to, and no one likes to admit when they’re wrong. Think about it, how many people do the opposite of what the government says just because the government tells them to do something? How many times do we downvote one another for disagreeing on something? How many of you have been converted by the Mormon missionaries or the sidewalk preachers screaming that the end is near and we are all sinful? To a lot of the public, that’s how vegans appear—a bunch of self-righteous snowflakes who throw a fit when they see you eat a hamburger. They see your arguments and they think they’re pathetic. They think YOU are pathetic. And when you double down and criticize their lifestyles, they think, “Why’s this over emotional wimp calling ME stupid? I’m not stupid or a genocidal rapist or evil! I’m not wrong, they are! Screw these guys, I’m going to eat a steak!”

Keep in mind, too, how much animal products are engrained in our cultures, our communities. Birthday cakes. Ice cream. Cookouts. Chips. Butter popcorn at the movies. Burgers and fries. Asado. Schweinebraten pork with dumplings. Pelmeni loaded with sour cream. So much of what we grow up with and experience in our daily lives is dependent on animal products. To give up on these things is, to some extent, giving up part of our daily lives. That isn’t easy for a lot of people to do. It’s a big adjustment and it’s tough. And people are more reluctant to be vegan when they see vegans.

Now some people DO hear your warnings, read your facts, and realize that yeah, they can live without cheese. But not everyone can be convinced the same way. And how many people are being driven away from the movement by the militant attitudes of the people involved? I’m not saying all the preaching should end, but I also think it’s time we looked at each other and wondered, why isn’t this working more and how can we reach more people?

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u/Senior_Fig7845 — 1 day ago
▲ 954 r/Sikh

I‘m actually crying

I posted on here last week because I lost my job some months ago and only have four dollars to my name. I had heard that you guys offer meals to those in need and asked just to make sure. Well, I took your advice and went yesterday. I made sure I had on long sleeves and pants, and I didn’t want to risk anything with my scarf, so I just wore one of your headscarves. I stood around in there for a little bit looking all at sea, I presume, until a volunteer noticed me and took me to the food room.

Y‘all. I’ve helped out in my hometown‘s church‘s soup kitchen for years—until the pastor who ran the soup kitchen left and the church couldn‘t afford to keep things running anymore—and the homeless shelter, and for all the good I tried to do there, it paled in comparison to this. I took this picture as soon as my plate was filled. They had one lentil curry, one potato and chickpea curry, and either roti or naan (I unfortunately do not know the right word). But literally right after I took this picture, another person gave me a huge ladle of rice pudding. Then another man came by and gave me some rice with peas. And I wasn’t even halfway finished before I was given more rice pudding, more water, a cup of chai, some sort of fried bread chips, and something I presume was peanut fudge. I swear I was bursting at the seams. Then as I got to my feet, the volunteers gave me a to-go container and told me to dish MYSELF as much as I wanted for later. So I got more of that absolutely amazing potato and chickpea curry, which I must absolutely make myself some day, and the rice with peas. They tried getting me to take two containers, but I told them to save the food for someone who needed it more than me.

I was in tears leaving. Going somewhere for free food is the antithesis for how I was raised. My family wasn‘t doing great during the 2008 recession and my siblings and I actually qualified for free lunch at school, but my parents didn’t let that happen because they didn’t want to be the moochers off the government that the news always complains about. Going to you guys means I’ve hit rock bottom. But you treated me like anyone else. You were kind. You gave me so much food (so much delicious food as well!) and, most of all, you didn’t act like my presence was annoying or I should get to leaving, which is how I have seen some fellow volunteers at the homeless shelter and church kitchen act. That is some of the most amazing Grace and selfless love I have ever seen. I needed that meal—not only for my stomach, but for my soul. You all are absolute angels and deserve all the respect and recognition I can give. Thank you all.

u/Senior_Fig7845 — 3 days ago

Update 2 on Douglas Arthur Sumner

Link to first post:https://www.reddit.com/r/gratefuldoe/comments/1vcgspp/update\_on\_douglas\_arthur\_sumner/

Hey guys, I am back for an update about a recently identified, currently unclaimed John Doe from Colorado named Douglas Arthur Sumner. I had tried doing geneology to find his family, only to discover that he and I were distant relations and even look very much alike. I sent Douglas‘s and my family tree to the investigative team in the hopes that it could help them out.

I got an email back from them todsy. They are tracking some leads still, but as of now, they haven’t been able to find any of Douglas‘s family (at least not anyone who wants to take him). They’ve promised to fill me in if they do find anyone who will take him. I, in turn, told them that if they absolutely cannot find anyone, I would be willing to claim him. I don’t know what the whole process will entail or how much it might cost. I might have to start a GoFundMe or something akin to that. But Douglas is buried somewhere without a headstone, and I‘ve grown rather attached to this case, and I don’t want him to stay somewhere without any sort of recognition. But we‘ll see if it comes to that.

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u/Senior_Fig7845 — 5 days ago
▲ 98 r/Sikh

I don’t have money for food—can I go get a dinner from your temple?

Hi, I hope I’m not coming off as disrespectful here. I‘m a student in Augsburg, Germany, and due to some unexpected emergencies, I only have four dollars (about three euros) to get me through two weeks. I don’t have much money to afford food and all I have in my pantry is one pack of ramen. I’m starving. An acquaintance told me that the Sikh temples offer charity meals. My city has one. I would be interested and more than willing to attend a service and whatever else needs to be done. But does this occur daily? If so, what times? And is there anything else I should know?

Thank you very much!

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u/Senior_Fig7845 — 7 days ago
▲ 6 r/mormon

Mormon food assistance in Germany?

Hi, it’s a bit embarrassing to write this but I am near Munich, Germany, and lost my job a few months ago. I haven’t had much luck since then. A few medical emergencies, my phone broke down and I had to get a new case and charger, and of course rent and everything. I do have a part-time job that I’m starting in a couple of weeks, plus the possibility of a full-time job next month, but I am now down to four dollars in savings. I have collected plastic bottles to exchange for grocery vouchers, but it’s not going to be enough for the next couple of weeks.

I have visited with some Mormon missionaries in the past and I know there is a church in my town. I have also heard they can offer food assistance, at least in the States. I don’t need much, just some staples that I can stretch for a couple of weeks. Beans, maybe some sauerkraut that I can stretch into soup, nothing fancy, just filling. Is this aid also offered in Germany? If so, how can I go about getting this? Thank you!

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u/Senior_Fig7845 — 7 days ago

Remains found in Sacramento River in 1990 identified as 20-year-old James Homer Wright

Human remains discovered on an island in the Sacramento River more than three decades ago have been identified as those of a 20-year-old Native American man who disappeared in 1988.

The remains were recently identified as James Homer Wright, bringing answers to a case that had remained unresolved for nearly 38 years.

James, part of the Pit River tribe, had last been seen riding his bicycle in Redding, California, in 1988. He had told a family member he was going to the gas station but never returned home.

Wright’s mother, Florence Moran, said her son’s remains were found in 1990 on a small island in the Sacramento River between Redding and Anderson. At the time, authorities were unable to identify him, and the remains were listed as John Doe.

Moran said she never stopped hoping to learn what happened to her son.

“I didn't want to give up because I just wanted that closure,” Moran said. “I said, I want to bring my son home before I die.”

Wright’s remains have now been returned to his family.

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u/Senior_Fig7845 — 9 days ago
▲ 194 r/wikipedia

If I Did It: Confessions of the Killer is a manuscript written by O.J. Simpson with ghostwriter Pablo Fenjves, in which Simpson puts forth a hypothetical description of the 1994 murders of Nicole Brown Simpson and Ron Goldman.

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u/Senior_Fig7845 — 14 days ago
▲ 18 r/germany

How it took me seven hours to travel seventy miles, or, why the Deutsche Bahn is my latest and greatest opp

So yesterday I went to Mittenwald, and if that sounds familiar, I’m the same hapless girl who got a 60-Euro fine between GP and Klais. Which, after reading comments, made me realize that I should have had my passport on me. I do have it now, and I’ve got all the documentation to prove I have a valid ticket and I gave the agent proper information. I’m going to Munich tomorrow to fight my case.

Somehow, that wasn’t the worst thing that happened to me.

Mittenwald was great. I got a glass of amazing buttermilk from a woman who even defended me from a crazy guy outside, and there’s a festival there right now that is seriously so cool. Everyone‘s dressed in medieval clothes but, unlike the Ren Fairs back home where everyone is selling AI art and 3D-printed dragons, they were selling what seemed to be pretty decent quality stuff. Wool-spun mittens, carved wooden potware, demonstrating how to make bread medieval style and how they made roofs and carved wood, and this sweet old man even showed me how he carves tops and other figurines. I bought a top, some sweet pilgrim bread that reminded me a bit of gingerbread, some smoked venison and a block of Bergkäse which I planned to use to make some spätzle.

Then I started to make my way back. I am familiar with the route because I’ve been to Mittenwald a few times. Take the train to Munich and get off at either Weilheim or München-Pasing to get back home. And according to the DB app, there were no problems.

This of course means that our train stopped in Garmisch-Partenkirchen and we were all told to get off. No one told us why. We were just told the train couldn’t keep going and we needed to go out. I bonded forces with a couple of Scots and we got into the station, only to find that all trains heading in the direction of Munich were cancelled. I found out later that heat had damaged the stretch between GP and Eschenlohe, which was no one’s fault. Again, none of the staff knew anything. I felt quite bad for them and thanked them a lot for their help, because they were truly trying to help us all out. But there’s probably 200 people outside the station, all trying to get on buses that will take us to Eschenlohe, and like 90% of these people are foreign tourists who speak no German.

Now I’m pretty lucky, as I’ve studied German here and speak at a C2 level (though apparently I speak with a perfect Dutch accent) and as I’m an American, I of course speak perfect English, so I just kinda translated things for others. This somehow resulted in two Ukrainians, three Malaysian women, an elderly English gentleman, and a Chihuahua deciding they were sticking by my side. And I was like 🤷‍♀️ heck yeah, these guys are my family now. And as we tried to debate whether it would be better to take the train route of Pfronten-Kempten-Munich or take an Uber to Eschenlohe, an employee noticed us all standing together, and she seemed worried about the older gentleman, even asking me if he was able to stand and walk. But she got us (and a poor British student who we adopted last-minute) on a shuttle ro Eschenlohe. Which pissed off these two American tourists standing nearby who told me I was a cheater and shame on me. And yeah, maybe other people were standing outside for longer, but we weren’t trying to shove ahead of anyone else. We were literally standing in the station and the DB employee got us on the shuttle. I was so frustrated and sweaty and tired by that point that I said very loudly rhat rhis woman reminded me of that character in Game Of Thrones who rang the bell and said Shame, Shame, Shame. Man, that pissed them off.

We got to Eschenlohe and just made it on the (completely packed) train. We were able to get a seat for the elderly man and the rest of us stood or found a place on the floor. I had a great conversation with the Ukrainian woman (who spoke no English or German) about the best places to buy Korivka Roshen candy, and one of the Malaysians had actually been to my state, so I got to talk about that with her. I should have gotten off at Weilheim, but by that point, I’d gotten rather attached to my little found family and didn’t want to leave them all at sea, so I rode with them to Starnberg.

It seems the line between Starnberg and Munich is also undergoing repairs, so a replacement bus service was running. We had to wait over an hour for the bus, during which time God decided “You know what would be the cherry on top for today? A thunderstorm!” And a big storm came up from the mountains and PELTED us with rain. I mean, it was so windy that the raindrops felt like pebbles. People were screaming and crying. The Ukrainian woman let me hide under her poncho with her and the Chihuahua, and the Malaysians sheltered the English man and the Scottish couple. Then the bus showed up and everyone was fighting tooth and nail to get on the bus. We made sure the older man got on first, then the Ukrainian woman shoved me on and we all kinda held one another’s hands and all made it on.

And that would have been the end of it, but the man standing next to us started calling the Malaysian women “Ching-Chongs“. Now this bus was pretty much all tourists, and a fair amount of these tourists were Eastern Asians. And of course they overheard this, and the racist bloke got in a shoving match with a Korean and two Japanese guys. His buddy tried defusing things by saying “We’re human! We’re all racists!” Which did not end well.

Somehow we got to Munich. I made sure my found family all got on the right trains and then tried fimding mine. Guess what, the train to Augsburg was delayed 40 minutes. By the time I got back, I’d missed the last bus to my dorm and had to get an Uber. The whole ordeal took me seven hours. Memories made for sure.

(And I’m ALSO the girl with the dad who came here and loved it, so I thought I’d include this last picture. One of his cousins on Facebook asked him about the trip and that’s what he had to say. Just as a palate-cleanser.)

u/Senior_Fig7845 — 15 days ago
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Got fined by the Deutsche Bahn even with a proper ticket

I’ve got a problem and I seriously don’t know what to do. I’m a student here (from America) and I have the Deutschland-Ticket. I was going from Augsburg to Mittenwald and had my ticket scanned three times. First and second time, no problem. But betwen Garmisch-Partenkirchen and Klais, an employee scanned my ticket and didn’t seem convinced. She had me show her my credit card with my name on it and then asked me to enter my information in her little machine (first, last names, date of birth, address). Which I did. She said the information didn’t add up on her phone and gave me a fine of 60 euros. I tried showing her the information on my app proving that my ticket is registered to the address I had listed, but she didn’t want to see it.

I am honestly so confused and really stressed. I was sitting in the second-class zone. I have a valid ticket that hadn’t caused me any problems earlier on my journey. In fact, a man had scanned my ticket on the SAME TRAIN by Weilheim and there were no issues. 60 euros isn’t really something I can spare right now. Can I fight this?

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u/Senior_Fig7845 — 16 days ago