u/cuddwes

I know we have Zabriel one of the very first batch of terran born space marines created along with astelan.

Also fun fact:

Any Terran born Uncrowned princes or the 1st batches who fought along side with the emperor during the unification wars gets to received a very powerful psychic  protection PERMAMENTLY protecting them againts psychic intrusion. If a psyker tries to look inside a Terran Born Uncrowned princes, they are painfully repelled by something so powerful it can described as:

"Besides its power, Zahariel was a candle next to the sun"

This also means that some of the older terran dark angels who survived in the unification wars are walking around with permament anti psyker weapons inside their brains. Zabriel is an example of this.

Context: The Dark Angels legion appears by showing of their impressive organization tactical flexibility to the point that guilliman was very much impressed. Just note that guilliman is the king of logistics and organizational management.

> The trumpets screamed, lifting him from the memory. An aide stepped to Guilliman’s side, and presented him with a gene-reader data-slate.

> Overhead, the starport airspace opened and the void shields slid aside. Ships descended from the shadow of a fleet lying out in the atmospheric murk.

> First, Stormbirds, painted void-black, the leading edges of their wings flecked in dark, dark green, the colour of ancient forests. Behind them, in formation, landing ships, Thunderhawks and Thunderhawk bulkers, and troop landers.

> They were not just in formation. They descended in perfect, perfect, aerial synchronicity. The ships came down like formation dancers, in a precisely integrated and orchestrated ballet.

> He’s showing off, Guilliman thought.

> He smiled. I would too, if the situation was reversed.

> Drop hatches and ramps opened and released with similarly pin-sharp timing. Formations of Dark Angels strode down the ramps onto the colonnade and entered the square. They stepped as one, each beat perfect, each warrior gleaming and uniform. As the marching companies entered the square, they began to spread into wide, double-ranks from their ten-by-ten blocks. The spread was seamless. Squads widened and melted into and through each other, forming a perfect double-wall, all still marching in step, never missing a beat.

> The drill discipline was the most impressive Guilliman had ever seen.

> He’s showing off, he thought again.

> ‘They’re very, very good at that marching drill thing, aren’t they?’ Euten said, gesturing at the square below.

> The Dark Angels ranks had begun moving again. They had peeled meticulously into tempered, marching cohorts that crossed diagonally through other cohorts to create perfect new shapes: diamonds, squares, triangles, curved lines, a six-pointed star. Point leaders were turning and marching back into their packs, inverting the march order.

> It was annoyingly impressive.

> ‘I imagine they must get plenty of time to practise,’ Guilliman replied.

> Euten looked at him and covered her mouth with her hand.

> ‘That’s the most acid thing I’ve ever heard you say, Roboute,’ she declared.

> He grinned at her.

> ‘Brace yourself, mam. My big brother’s come to stay. The acid is only just starting to flow.’

> Down below, on the polished marble stage of the Martial Square, the Dark Angels finally finished their display. Polished bolters clamped to their chests, they formed a V-shaped fan of squads leading back to the ramp of the lead Stormbird.

> The Lion emerged.

> Despite himself, Guilliman felt his heart skip and his lungs pump. The Lion. The Lion. There were brothers that he could look down on, and was happy to, and there were brothers that he could admire. Rogal, Magnus and Sanguinius, and, damn him, even Russ. He could admire them for what they were. But there were only two brothers that he had ever actually looked up to, only two brothers that he had ever actually admired. There were only two brothers that he felt shadowed by when they were present. Lion El’Jonson and Horus Lupercal. The Lion emerged from his lander stony-faced, bareheaded, his long golden hair trailing in the wind. So beautiful, so deadly, so empty, so unreadable.

> They approached along the echelon, entering the square. Guilliman sighed.

> 'Bastard. Always showing off,’ he murmured.

This shows that even Guilliman in its complexity and coordination was a subtle way of the Lion showing off his Legion's organizational flexibility, which Guilliman commented on himself. This also shows that the dark angels during the great crusade could practically switch tactics on a dime, reorienting it's forces smoothly to engage a new foe or try new tactics, and that was the Dark Angels Legion greatest strength.

If I have to pick top 2 legions when it comes to organizational flexibility it would be dark angels and ultras.

In a chess match.

Round 1: 15 Minutes of time control.

Round 2: 5 Minutes of time control.

Round 3: 1 Minute of time control.

White pieces: Cortana

Black Pieces: Azrael.

Both sides gets to have 20 minutes of learning chess such as its rules, tactics, strategy, openings, techniques, etc.

I decided to make this post because im very curious about these best of the best space marine chapters.

When it comes to the dark angels, they are the best at strategy and tactics but not good at logistics and management organization like the Ultras BUT what makes the dark angels special is the Rock and their leftover D.A.O.T weapons and last of all has the best 1st company out of any chapter because each Deathwing terminator exclusively fight in terminator armour, so they likely have more experience with its strengths and weaknesses to give them an edge over similarly armed foes. ALSO they have the largest amounts of terminator armor and LOTS of plasma weapons.

When it comes to the grey knights, what makes them special is that they have the best high quality gear like the dreadknights and LOTS of force weapons + all of them are psykers. Just like the deathwing they also have the largest amounts of terminator armor. They are also the best at combating the denizens of the warp.

Round 1: Dark Angels 1st Company vs Grey Knights 1st Brotherhood. (Vehicles and supports are included)

Round 2: 4 Companies of Dark Angels vs 4 brotherhoods of Grey knights.

Round 3: The entire dark angels chapter (the unforgiven is not included) vs The entire grey knights chapter.

Round 4: Same as R3 but with a twist, the DA can bring out their good weapons from the rock. Its possible that the rock may have numerous psy-arkana weapons which could pose a problem for the grey knights.