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THREAD: Down with the mayo monkeys I guess

CONTEXT: the mod team of /r/Comics was dealing with some sealioning about "Whites getting replaced" threads and posted this in which they called Whites "genetically recessive" and said that if Whites were to go extinct that would be a good thing.

A user in /r/whenthe thought this would be material for mocking in the subreddit but quickly found out it doesn't play out that way with Whites.

DRAMA

> What's... the context? What happened in comics? What did the mods do? > >> Edit: If a mod here sees this, just wanna day that whenever I think the moderation on this sub is lax , I look at literally any of the other popular subs and realize how "normal" this place is by comparison to the rest of Reddit. Yall doing good. > >><image> > >>> This isn’t about white people? It’s about the social classification….? > >>> Why did you unironically get offended by this lmao > >>>> Liberals will say they’re progressive but then become the savior defender of the white race when someone points out that white supremacy as a “culture” being gone is a good thing. It’s all support for the oppressed until you remind them that they also benefit from these systems of oppression.

> I completely agreed with them until: > >“So you know if “white” were to really go extinct. GOOD” > >His argument started as anti capitalist, the working class vs the 1 percent, then did a complete 180 into genocidal maniac territory. > >> They're talking about the replacement theory of white people being "bred out" of the gene pool due to increased racial mixing, which they're saying isn't a bad thing. Not killing all white people lmfaoooo > >>It's inaccurate to say that this would eliminate colorism - white supremacy permeates so much of our cultures and politics that it will still favor lighter skin barring a purge of racist relics and ideology, but they're in literally no way calling for the genocide of white people > >>edit: hi butthurt white people down voting an elaboration of a misconstrued point > >>> Their entire argument was on the basis that nazi’s are stupid because racemixing doesn’t equal extinction, and that concept extends to all races. (I personally agree with this idea) > >>>But that means when you say “white people should go extinct” you are saying all white people should die because racemixing doesn’t equal extinction. > >>>I can give the mod the benefit of the doubt that he didnt communicate his ideas properly, but the way his argument is worded, he is absolutely calling for a genocide lmao > >>>> But crucially he never talked about white people. He’s specifically talking about the concept of whiteness, that’s his whole comment. > >>>>> He talked a bit about how the criteria for what constitutes a white person has been manipulated over the years. > >>>>>But I don’t think you or the mod want to argue that white people is just a concept, and that white people do not actually exist > >>>>>> No one’s arguing that “white people” are a concept, he’s arguing that whiteness is. > >>>>>>Anecdotally, I’m welsh, who are seen as very white, but the concept of whiteness lumps us in with our historical oppressors and ensures that our history of suffering will remain silent. > >>>>>>Without whiteness, we wouldn’t be talking about “white people”, we’d say Europeans instead like we say Africans or Asians, or we’d just refer back to our own ethnicities. Instead “whiteness” makes a very easy to maintain over class within race, one that demands underclasses and creates division. > >>>>>>This also makes “white” the default in multicultural societies. When they say “Americans”, it’s often referring to “White”Americans, and then black Americans or Asian Americans are specified which signals that they’re not true Americans.

> Are we seriously conflating the mod wanting the destruction of “white” (the social construct) with wanting white people dead? Are we being dense on purpose? > >> No, this comment section is just filled with closet racists who don't even realize that they have "white" ingrained as an identity onto themselves. > >>> Is it not normal to have a part of your identity ingrained as a part of your identity? > >>>> Specifically “white” as a category is being criticized since it doesn’t have any real meaning beyond its use in us vs them narratives. An American, an Irishman, a Swede, a Russian, and a Jewish guy don’t have any shared culture or identity but they’re bound together with the label of “white”. It’s a holdover from colonialism and slavery where racist laws did make an artificial but meaningful distinction. > >>>>> Neither does "black" or "brown" or "Asian" have any real meaning. A black American shares nothing culturally with a black Kenyan.

> i got permabanned from comics for "defending nazis" because i said we can disagree with right wingers but we should still treat them like people and fellow americans with respect and decency > >mods did NOT like that lol > >> I have a question. Why should I treat someone who wants me gone, exterminated or replaced with respect? Or people who would treat my nephew like a disease with respect? I kind of want to understand that reasoning. > >>> Respect as a human being at least. You are not on the ontologically good side while they're on the ontologically evil side, talking about them like they're subhuman or not human at all is unproductive and wrong for the same reasons it's wrong if and when they do it. > >>>> Except they ARE on the ontologically evil side and they fucking want minorities exterminated so wanting them silenced and stopped by any means is literal self defense as a minority > >>>> imagine being this lukewarm damn fucking god

> Seems like an odd question to me - this entire post is complaining about mocking Nazis, directly. That’s what it is - OP is unhappy with a mod response which is just mocking American Nazis. > >Leave an insult on the ground and it’s very unlikely someone who isn’t an owner will pick it up. > >Seems a very odd priority to have to step into that to defend Nazis. Do Nazis need defending? Are their political opinions worthy of respect, in a civilised society? > >You can forgive people for thinking someone who chooses to do that may not be entirely intellectually and ideologically honest. > >> The post is about how in an attempt to mock Nazi's, that mod said insane, ironically racist bullshit. This whole "insult left on the ground" response is just a... I believe it's called Kafka Trap? It's fallacious, it's a deflection of criticism to paint anyone who opposes what you say as only doing so because they're in the wrong. Framing your statements as ontologically good and correct. Which I've already said is not productive, it's counterproductive even. > >>> You’ve ignored literally every point I’ve made just to repeat yourself; > >>>I didn’t actually paint myself as anything, as I’ve not actually made those comments, if we’re being pedantic and refusing to cede anything. > >>>What I said was you’d be objectively pretty stupid for giving grace to someone who affords you none. And I stand by it. > >>>Pretending like giving Nazis the benefit of the doubt isn’t a fools errand and also the reason America is objectively so fucked is a very odd moral high ground to try to claim. Because that is what you’re doing. > >>>> You're claiming I'm ignoring your points as you put the words in my mouth that I'm giving Nazi's the benefit of the doubt. Where the fuck am I saying that??? > >>>>And I was pretty sure I addressed your point but I'll do so more explicitly I guess: > >>>>> Seems a very odd priority to have to step into that to defend Nazis. Do Nazis need defending? Are their political opinions worthy of respect, in a civilised society? > >>>>I never did any of this so you saying it did not justify a response. I don't see how anyone else did either. > >>>>> You can forgive people for thinking someone who chooses to do that may not be entirely intellectually and ideologically honest. > >>>>Yea if someone defends Nazi's for the statements and claims of their ideology and politics and gives them the benefit of the doubt I understand why you might think they're not intellectually and ideologically honest, but nobody did that. > >>>>> Those statements are only true if you ignore the wider context of this discussion IE America’s current direction, the reason for the polarisation, the reason for the constant talk of Nazis. > >>>>>It doesn’t exist in a vacuum or only on the internet - it’s because fascism is making a resurgence. Actual Nazis are in your government. > >>>>>In that context, why would you give the benefit of the doubt to people who say things like “why are you so fervently against Nazis” or do things like complain about being called a nazi. > >>>>>Outside of that context it might seem a little odd, but I’d still question someone who was pro-Nazi in that scenario. > >>>>>Inside of that context? Seriously. How you can look at that and go “yeah what we need here is more tolerance for Nazis”? When it’s laid out it starts to look a little weird, no? > >>>>>> Where is any of this claim coming from??? > >>>>>>Okay let me step back. Maybe the above comment this thread is coming from is using language you believe is TOO forgiving of Nazi's. I can see that. > >>>>>>I do not see how you believe I or OP is claiming we need to be tolerant of Nazi's, or questioning why people are against Nazi's. I have said nothing of the sort, I have been extremely clear about what I'm conveying. The reason this post exists is because that mod who was "taunting Nazi's" said absurd and racist things to do so. All I'm saying is that it's not productive to act like Nazi's are not human, but you are free to view their political and ideological perspectives as invalid, unreasonable, not sound, cruel, biased, etc.

> It's interesting how frequently, like ridiculously frequently, you see people start an argument with "X isnt happening dont blow things out of proportion" and then as soon as they actually start trying to make their case they swap to "not only is X happening but here's why thats a good thing" > >> Bruh you believe in great replacement? > >>> Thats a brand new sentence, nothing i said even touched that > >>>> They were referring to that tho > >>>>> Yeah it does in the manner of calling out their method of arguing their point being very commonly used by weirdos online. Do I think some big conspiracy to replace white people is real? No. Am I terminally online enough to think people like that mod are normal? Also no

Their rivals in 2026 (they play the Bills, Dolphins and Jets twice):

2026 Opponent	2025 Record
Seattle Seahawks	14–3
Pittsburgh Steelers	10–7
Jacksonville Jaguars	13–4
Buffalo Bills	12–5
Las Vegas Raiders	3–14
New York Jets	3–14
Chicago Bears	11–6
Miami Dolphins	7–10
Green Bay Packers	9–7–1
Detroit Lions	9–8
Los Angeles Chargers	11–6
Minnesota Vikings	9–8
Kansas City Chiefs	6–11
Denver Broncos	14–3

EDIT: I'm aware that using 2025 SoS to predict 2026 SoS isn't perfect but it does show that the Patriots schedule should be significantly more difficult than last year, or at least the expectation for it.