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Why do musical theatre cast recordings sound like that?

Don’t get me wrong, I love them, but nine times out of ten, they have this certain sound to them. They sound so over polished. Like, I don’t know how to describe it, they just sound so clean, too clean. Not like other music is produced. And it becomes even more prevalent when you compare musical cast recordings to the soundtracks of their film adaptations.

Like, if you compare the Chicago cast recording to the film version’s or the Little Shop of Horrors cast recording to the film’s version or the Rocky Horror Show cast recording to the film’s version, the film versions never have that overly clean sound. Or if you just look at movie musicals that aren’t based on a preexisting show like The Greatest Showman they don’t have it either. Or if they came from a concept album like Hadestown, the OG albums don’t sound like that.

I’m assuming it has something with how they are produced combined with mainstream music having less instruments and movie musicals using much bigger orchestras, but then my question is why? Why do cast recordings have to sound like that? Like imagine is someone like Andrew Watt produced the new Rocky Horror Show revival recording, or someone like Boys Noize produced the Cats The Jelicle Ball cast recording, that be incredible!

The only ones I can think of that I don’t really feel like have this clean sound to them are Bloody Bloody Andrew Jackson, Hamilton, and 2024 Starlight Express (though that one could be the kick ass EDM elements throwing me). But even still, inviting outside producers could make it sound so much cooler. Or just do what their films are doing. Even Starlight Express experimented with having Scottish DJ Hudson Mohawke remix one of the tracks and it was fucking epic.

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u/BelieveCongreveCube — 9 days ago
▲ 96 r/ask

How did Facebook’s user base go from being just all college kids looking for action to being just all old people getting very confused?

I’ve seen The Social Network dozens of times, it’s one of my favorite films, but I never really looked into how its user base did such a complete 180 after that. Like, when it first came out it the shit for young people, that was the main goal of the platform, being cool and appealing to the youth and making it all about your relationship status and stuff.

But now it is almost entirely just old people who are either very confused on how technology works, post ancient memes from iFunny, Bitmoji’s about how fucking awful Monday’s are, and getting very concerningly easily fooled by AI generated imagery, and not even scarily lifelike AI imagery but just the most obviously not real images ever.

I’m young myself and I don’t think a single person in my age range has Facebook or would ever want Facebook but I know for a fact that every teacher in my school does have and use Facebook. I just don’t really understand it and can’t really find anything that explains it in a simple way (hence this post) so I was just wondering if anyone could explain what happened. Perhaps someone who stayed on the Facebook platform for years and watched and experienced the user base shift for themselves.

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u/BelieveCongreveCube — 10 days ago

Me - The Race x The Hand That Feeds (Andrew Lloyd Webber, Cristian Buttaci, Hudson Mohawke, Nine Inch Nails, and Photek)

The Race (Hudson Mohawke Rework) x The Hand That Feeds (Photek Straight Remix)

Original Tracks:
- The Race from the 2024 revival of Starlight Express, by Andrew Lloyd Webber, with the voice of Cristian Buttaci as Control, remixed by Hudson Mohawke
- The Hand That Feeds by Nine Inch Nails, remixed by Photek

Mashup and cover art by me

I’m still a beginner at mashups so I know it’s not perfect, but I love NIN and the Starlight Express revival that I had to make this. I wish the other remixes on the Starlight album had professional producers like Hudson work on them. I mean, imagine NIN or Boys Noize reworking a track like AC/DC, that be fucking epic.

u/BelieveCongreveCube — 16 days ago

I finally figured it out

Ok, so, I’ve watched The Nightmare Before Christmas hundreds of times, I love Tim Burton and that film endlessly. But there’s always been something about Jack’s singing voice (done by Danny Elfman) that I found strikingly familiar and I’ve never been able to put my finger on. It’s bothered me for years. And today I was scrolling and got an ad Martin Short and Steve Martin was in and then write after a clip from an interview with Danny Elfman that used a clip from Jack’s Lament and it clicked: Jack Skellington’s singing voice sounds like Martin Short.

u/BelieveCongreveCube — 19 days ago

Any other fans of the Katt vs. Dogg novels wanna help me decide a ship name for Oscar x Molly?

I made a poll on Tumblr for it, I was wondering if anyone would want to help vote (:

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u/BelieveCongreveCube — 19 days ago
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Starlight Express revival album review (Including Deluxe Edition remixes)

I’ve noticed that I’ve barely seen anyone discuss this album from the perspective of an electronic music fan rather than primarily as a theatre fan. Since I’m both a musical-theatre lover and an electronic-music fan, I wanted to give my thoughts. Especially because I think this album is a fantastic example of just how much potential electronic music has in musical theatre.

For those unfamiliar, Starlight Express is an electro-pop-rock musical by Andrew Lloyd Webber that originally premiered in the 1980s. It was substantially reworked for its 2024 revival, with the new production leaning much more heavily into electronic music and contemporary pop/rock production.

First of all, I think this album is a huge improvement over the recording for the original 80s production.

A lot of musical-theatre albums have a very clean, polished sound. And that’s not necessarily a bad thing, but it can sometimes make them feel somewhat detached from the production styles of contemporary popular music. The Starlight Express revival album goes in almost the opposite direction. It embraces electronic production, synths, distortion, pop, rock, and dance music in a way that makes it feel surprisingly close to something you could encounter outside of musical theatre.

In fact, this might be the only musical-theatre album I’ve ever heard where there are multiple tracks that I could genuinely imagine hearing in a club, rave, or party.

The tracks I find the most fun as an electronic-music listener are Overture/Entry of the Trains, Hydrogen, AC/DC, Starlight Express, The Race, The Final Race, and the Megamix.

Some tracks like the Overture/Entry of the Trains has this fantastic atmospheric orchestral-synth-rock sound. It reminds me a lot of Wendy Carlos’s score for the original TRON, particularly that combination of orchestral textures, synthesizers, and futuristic atmosphere. Plenty of fun 80s vibes influences in this track and throughout the album.

And tracks like the race sequences, meanwhile, lean much more toward electropop and house, which makes perfect sense given the subject matter. They have this driving, kinetic quality that makes the music feel like it’s constantly moving forward.

But AC/DC is probably my favorite and most interesting track on the album from a production standpoint. The vocal doubling and distortion effects give it a really cool and distinctive sound, and I love how it combines electronic pop with an almost industrial edge. It’s one of the tracks where the production becomes a major part of the song’s identity.

I also just have to mention Pumping Iron. It has an awesome distorted bass line, but other than that it’s really more of a rock track than an electronic track, but I just had to talk about it because it’s one of my favorite tracks. That guitar solo goes hard as hell.

Then there are the remixes. The absolute standout for me is the remix of The Race done by Scottish composer and DJ Hudson Mohawke. It’s easily my favorite remix on the Deluxe Edition.

The other remixes don’t have individual remixers credited, so I’m gonna assume they were just done in the studio by the same people who made the original tracks. And that’s also not necessarily a bad thing, the remixes of Whistle at Me, AC/DC, Starlight Express, Hydrogen, and Pumping Iron are all phenomenal.

In fact, from the perspective of an electronic-music listener, I actually prefer some of these remixes to their original versions. They lean even further into the dance-music side of the material and feel like they could work incredibly well at a rave or party.

That said, I do think the Deluxe Edition could have gone even further. Hudson Mohawke absolutely goes wild with The Race, and it makes me wish they had brought in him, or other professional electronic producers and DJs, to rework more of the songs. The material clearly has the potential for that kind of treatment, and I would have loved to hear completely different producers bring their own styles to the soundtrack. Like imagine Nine Inch Nails or Boys Noize remixing AC/DC, that’d be friggin awesome!

Overall, I found this to be a really fun and fascinating listen. More than anything, the album demonstrates how much untapped potential electronic music has in musical theatre. It works extraordinarily well here because the electronic production isn’t simply being added as a gimmick. It becomes part of the musical’s identity.

The revival combines elements of electropop, house, synth-pop, industrial, rock, blues, orchestral music, and contemporary musical theatre to create something that feels genuinely distinctive. And that’s what I find most exciting about it.

I really wish there were more musical-theatre scores willing to experiment with electronic music to this extent. There’s no reason musical theatre has to limit itself to the traditional orchestral sound. Electronic music can create atmosphere, movement, intensity, futuristic textures, huge drops, distorted vocals, and completely new sonic worlds that an orchestra alone can’t necessarily provide. And I think the revival of Starlight Express makes a pretty compelling case for exploring that potential.

As both a musical-theatre fan and an electronic-music fan, I’m really glad this album and musical exists. It may be a weird and camp show, but the revival of Starlight Express is one of my all time favorite musicals, because of unique and interesting it is. I just hope more composers and productions take notes from it and start experimenting with electronic sounds on this level.

If you haven’t listened to it yet, I can’t recommend it enough, I really think it’s something truly special with nothing else quite like it.

u/BelieveCongreveCube — 25 days ago

Since the new Naked Gun movie was really damn good and the new Spaceballs is shaping up to be really good too, what’s another comedy movie you’d love to see get a legacy sequel as funny as the original? I’ll start:

u/BelieveCongreveCube — 27 days ago

Thoughts or feedback on my artstyle? (TW: blood, no gore)

I wanna get better at anatomy so I can draw bodies at more and better angles, I also wanna make sure my art doesn’t suffer from same-face-syndrome (the last slide is a WIP of Social Network fanart I was working on and trying to go the shape of Jesse Eisenberg’s face was kinda a challenge), I also wanna get better at drawing hands and people interacting with each so I can draw more art of my favorite ship, OscarMolly from the Katt vs. Dogg novels (see second to last slide for one I already made)

u/BelieveCongreveCube — 30 days ago

Just watched The Social Network and it gave me an obsession for this doomed tech bro yaoi, also from what I hear Red White & Royal Blue was rumored to originally be a fanfic for the Mark/Eduardo pairing from this movie, cool

u/BelieveCongreveCube — 1 month ago
▲ 38 r/BloodymaryShip+2 crossposts

“We’re In This Together” - BloodyMary Edit by Me

Audio: Song “We’re In This Together” by Nine Inch Nails

u/BelieveCongreveCube — 1 month ago
▲ 74 r/tron

“But I DON’T KNOW that the world cares about those characters in the same way they would about a Darth Vader or a Skywalker.” - Screenwriter Jesse Wigutow on TRON Ares not bringing back TRON Legacy characters

I still defend Ares as a good film but my guy, what do you mean “I don’t know?” When asked about why TRON Legacy characters weren’t coming back you say you “don’t know” people care about returning characters in a sequel? You already wrote it and you’re unsure if people care about that? You just guessed people didn’t care? You wrote it off an assumption? Brother, look on the internet! You don’t know, find out for yourself! Ask the fans this movie was supposedly made for! What happened to those characters? Do you not know?

u/BelieveCongreveCube — 1 month ago
▲ 8 r/Irony

Johnny Depp made his musical acting debut in the Sweeney Todd film, which is regarded as one of the best stage to film adaptations of all time, then played Wolf in the Into The Woods, which is regarded as one of the worst stage to film adaptations of all time. Both were composed by the same guy.

And Sweeney Todd is also regarded as one of his best performances and the Wolf is regarded as one of his worst

u/BelieveCongreveCube — 1 month ago

These shows had the same creator and I remember feeling so smart as a kid because they kept dropping hints that they were in the same universe and I picked up on it and thought it was so cool, both were peak shows

u/BelieveCongreveCube — 1 month ago