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I was illegally put on a 5150 (there has to be action taken for the hold to be legal and there wasn’t. I did not attempt to harm myself or anyone else). I called my county’s medi-cal behavioral health hotline to get therapy referrals. The guy over the phone asked me a lot of questions and I answered the questions honestly. He offered to have a crisis team evaluate me and said it would be completely voluntary and that I could refuse. I said yes. After he sends them, he tells me the cops may come.

I never would’ve agreed to this if I knew the police would be involved. I refused to go to a crisis center and they 5150d me and put me in handcuffs. I was in cuffs for 3 hours and I spent the night in the ER with an IV in my arm that bled while I slept. I dealt with nurses in the ER and the ward who were physically rough with me when doing my vitals.

The psych ward I was at was awful. I was terrified. I only stayed one night in the psych ward, one night at the ER. I couldn’t imagine being on a 14 day hold- those poor people. We didn’t have individual therapists. They refused to give me my meds for one night. The group “therapy” was like a kindergarten class.

I was telling a couple women there that it isn’t go to the psych ward or nothing- that they deserve actual treatment (voluntary residential/php/iop) and how they can get it. I feel bad for everyone at the facility.
They all need help and instead they’re in a mental health prison. I especially feel bad for those who have no visitors. This was the most traumatic experience of my life. I have never been so terrified in my life. I was privileged enough to be able to have an attorney to help me get out sooner- I feel for those who don’t have this privilege.

The place I was at had a lot of medi-cal (California Medicaid) recipients so I’m sure they think they can do whatever since these patients probably lack financial resources. I’m just an adult who aged out of being able to be on my parents’ health insurance but I have family with the money for an attorney.

I was able to get out for these reasons:

My family paid for an attorney that specializes in cases like mine. They determined I was illegally held there, which allowed me to be released a day early. Now, I need to appeal this decision to ban me from owning a lethal weapon for 5 years. I know I have a solid case considering there was no legal reason to 5150 me.
I was clearly lucid- I was the only one that was.
I was pretty much cooperative. I followed the rules. I did my best to keep my emotions in check to not make myself look bad. I didn’t cause trouble for the staff. I didn’t have problems with the other patients.
I said that since I got there, I had no thoughts of hurting myself or others.

The attorney I got practices law in California. If you are interested in this person’s services, DM me and I will give them to you.

My advice to you to not get 5150:

Be extremely careful who you tell if you have suicidal ideation, homicidal ideation, or thoughts of harming. Do not tell a behavioral health line this. In my experience, 988 and the friendship line along with the peer run California warm line have been safe.
Do not go to a crisis bed center. They will easily send you to a psych ward. Do not have a crisis team come to your house. NEVER I MEAN NEVER tell police if you have thoughts of hurting yourself and others.

What to do if you get 5150d:

Cooperate. Do advocate for yourself but pick your battles. I was cooperative but insisted I be given my meds that help with my mental health (not controlled substances). Go to the groups. Remember, your number one priority is escaping the hellhole.
Stay away from assholes/crazy patients.
Don’t get into arguments with other patients. If someone is being an asshole to you, just ignore them. Don’t debate staff or patients.
Be as emotionally levelheaded as possible.
Tell them that since you’ve arrived, you haven’t had thoughts of harming yourself and others. It doesn’t matter if you do or don’t have those thoughts. Never tell them if you have thoughts of harming yourself or others. These places are mental health prisons- they will not help you get better.
Have an aftercare plan in place. At minimum, say you plan to get weekly therapy. Involve family in the aftercare plan if you can.
Tell them about the goals you want to achieve when you leave. They’ll ask what you plan to do when you leave. Ensure your answer talks about doing things that are productive and meaningful.
Get an attorney who specializes in these cases. If your family will pay for it, let them. If anyone offers to pay for the attorney, let them. Even if you aren’t on great terms with the person helping pay for the attorney. Even if your hold is legal, you are still entitled to a hearing in front of a judge. An attorney can advocate for you to be released in this hearing.
Don’t talk to people on the phone who will upset you. Don’t have visitors that will upset you or lash out. Avoid reactions.

Everyone deserves real help for their mental health. Do not share thoughts of harm to self in others in the ER, to cops, crisis people, or people in psych wards. Find a therapist who is a safe person to tell this to. If you want treatment that’s more intensive than individual therapy, look into support groups.

Or residential (not psych inpatient or crisis res), PHP, and IOP programs. I did PHP/IOP for 7 1/2 months and discharged from the program last year. This program greatly helped me. I wouldn’t go for a PHP/IOP program affiliated with a hospital as those places are way more likely to 5150 you. Private or nonprofit practices are less likely to do that.

Also my empathy goes out to fellow autistics who have been in this situation. I am autistic and it’s definitely worse for us.

I was illegally put on a 5150 (there has to be action taken for the hold to be legal and there wasn’t. I did not attempt to harm myself or anyone else). I called my county’s medi-cal behavioral health hotline to get therapy referrals. The guy over the phone asked me a lot of questions and I answered the questions honestly. He offered to have a crisis team evaluate me and said it would be completely voluntary and that I could refuse. I said yes. After he sends them, he tells me the cops may come.

I never would’ve agreed to this if I knew the police would be involved. I refused to go to a crisis center and they 5150d me and put me in handcuffs. I was in cuffs for 3 hours and I spent the night in the ER with an IV in my arm that bled while I slept. I dealt with nurses in the ER and the ward who were physically rough with me when doing my vitals.

The psych ward I was at was awful. I was terrified. I only stayed one night in the psych ward, one night at the ER. I couldn’t imagine being on a 14 day hold- those poor people. We didn’t have individual therapists. They refused to give me my meds for one night. The group “therapy” was like a kindergarten class.

I was telling a couple women there that it isn’t go to the psych ward or nothing- that they deserve actual treatment (voluntary residential/php/iop) and how they can get it. I feel bad for everyone at the facility.
They all need help and instead they’re in a mental health prison. I especially feel bad for those who have no visitors. This was the most traumatic experience of my life. I have never been so terrified in my life. I was privileged enough to be able to have an attorney to help me get out sooner- I feel for those who don’t have this privilege.

The place I was at had a lot of medi-cal (California Medicaid) recipients so I’m sure they think they can do whatever since these patients probably lack financial resources. I’m just an adult who aged out of being able to be on my parents’ health insurance but I have family with the money for an attorney.

I was able to get out for these reasons:

My family paid for an attorney that specializes in cases like mine. They determined I was illegally held there, which allowed me to be released a day early. Now, I need to appeal this decision to ban me from owning a lethal weapon for 5 years. I know I have a solid case considering there was no legal reason to 5150 me.
I was clearly lucid- I was the only one that was.
I was pretty much cooperative. I followed the rules. I did my best to keep my emotions in check to not make myself look bad. I didn’t cause trouble for the staff. I didn’t have problems with the other patients.
I said that since I got there, I had no thoughts of hurting myself or others.

The attorney I got practices law in California. If you are interested in this person’s services, DM me and I will give them to you.

My advice to you to not get 5150:

Be extremely careful who you tell if you have suicidal ideation, homicidal ideation, or thoughts of harming. Do not tell a behavioral health line this. In my experience, 988 and the friendship line along with the peer run California warm line have been safe.
Do not go to a crisis bed center. They will easily send you to a psych ward. Do not have a crisis team come to your house. NEVER I MEAN NEVER tell police if you have thoughts of hurting yourself and others.

What to do if you get 5150d:

Cooperate. Do advocate for yourself but pick your battles. I was cooperative but insisted I be given my meds that help with my mental health (not controlled substances). Go to the groups. Remember, your number one priority is escaping the hellhole.
Stay away from assholes/crazy patients.
Don’t get into arguments with other patients. If someone is being an asshole to you, just ignore them. Don’t debate staff or patients.
Be as emotionally levelheaded as possible.
Tell them that since you’ve arrived, you haven’t had thoughts of harming yourself and others. It doesn’t matter if you do or don’t have those thoughts. Never tell them if you have thoughts of harming yourself or others. These places are mental health prisons- they will not help you get better.
Have an aftercare plan in place. At minimum, say you plan to get weekly therapy. Involve family in the aftercare plan if you can.
Tell them about the goals you want to achieve when you leave. They’ll ask what you plan to do when you leave. Ensure your answer talks about doing things that are productive and meaningful.
Get an attorney who specializes in these cases. If your family will pay for it, let them. If anyone offers to pay for the attorney, let them. Even if you aren’t on great terms with the person helping pay for the attorney. Even if your hold is legal, you are still entitled to a hearing in front of a judge. An attorney can advocate for you to be released in this hearing.
Don’t talk to people on the phone who will upset you. Don’t have visitors that will upset you or lash out. Avoid reactions.

Everyone deserves real help for their mental health. Do not share thoughts of harm to self in others in the ER, to cops, crisis people, or people in psych wards. Find a therapist who is a safe person to tell this to. If you want treatment that’s more intensive than individual therapy, look into support groups.

Or residential (not psych inpatient or crisis res), PHP, and IOP programs. I did PHP/IOP for 7 1/2 months and discharged from the program last year. This program greatly helped me. I wouldn’t go for a PHP/IOP program affiliated with a hospital as those places are way more likely to 5150 you. Private or nonprofit practices are less likely to do that.

Also my empathy goes out to fellow autistics who have been in this situation. I am autistic and it’s definitely worse for us.

I was illegally put on a 5150 (there has to be action taken for the hold to be legal and there wasn’t. I did not attempt to harm myself or anyone else). I called my county’s medi-cal behavioral health hotline to get therapy referrals. The guy over the phone asked me a lot of questions and I answered the questions honestly. He offered to have a crisis team evaluate me and said it would be completely voluntary and that I could refuse. I said yes. After he sends them, he tells me the cops may come.

I never would’ve agreed to this if I knew the police would be involved. I refused to go to a crisis center and they 5150d me and put me in handcuffs. I was in cuffs for 3 hours and I spent the night in the ER with an IV in my arm that bled while I slept. I dealt with nurses in the ER and the ward who were physically rough with me when doing my vitals.

The psych ward I was at was awful. I was terrified. I only stayed one night in the psych ward, one night at the ER. I couldn’t imagine being on a 14 day hold- those poor people. We didn’t have individual therapists. They refused to give me my meds for one night. The group “therapy” was like a kindergarten class.

I was telling a couple women there that it isn’t go to the psych ward or nothing- that they deserve actual treatment (voluntary residential/php/iop) and how they can get it. I feel bad for everyone at the facility.
They all need help and instead they’re in a mental health prison. I especially feel bad for those who have no visitors. This was the most traumatic experience of my life. I have never been so terrified in my life. I was privileged enough to be able to have an attorney to help me get out sooner- I feel for those who don’t have this privilege.

The place I was at had a lot of medi-cal (California Medicaid) recipients so I’m sure they think they can do whatever since these patients probably lack financial resources. I’m just an adult who aged out of being able to be on my parents’ health insurance but I have family with the money for an attorney.

I was able to get out for these reasons:

My family paid for an attorney that specializes in cases like mine. They determined I was illegally held there, which allowed me to be released a day early. Now, I need to appeal this decision to ban me from owning a lethal weapon for 5 years. I know I have a solid case considering there was no legal reason to 5150 me.
I was clearly lucid- I was the only one that was.
I was pretty much cooperative. I followed the rules. I did my best to keep my emotions in check to not make myself look bad. I didn’t cause trouble for the staff. I didn’t have problems with the other patients.
I said that since I got there, I had no thoughts of hurting myself or others.

The attorney I got practices law in California. If you are interested in this person’s services, DM me and I will give them to you.

My advice to you to not get 5150:

Be extremely careful who you tell if you have suicidal ideation, homicidal ideation, or thoughts of harming. Do not tell a behavioral health line this. In my experience, 988 and the friendship line along with the peer run California warm line have been safe.
Do not go to a crisis bed center. They will easily send you to a psych ward. Do not have a crisis team come to your house. NEVER I MEAN NEVER tell police if you have thoughts of hurting yourself and others.

What to do if you get 5150d:

Cooperate. Do advocate for yourself but pick your battles. I was cooperative but insisted I be given my meds that help with my mental health (not controlled substances). Go to the groups. Remember, your number one priority is escaping the hellhole.
Stay away from assholes/crazy patients.
Don’t get into arguments with other patients. If someone is being an asshole to you, just ignore them. Don’t debate staff or patients.
Be as emotionally levelheaded as possible.
Tell them that since you’ve arrived, you haven’t had thoughts of harming yourself and others. It doesn’t matter if you do or don’t have those thoughts. Never tell them if you have thoughts of harming yourself or others. These places are mental health prisons- they will not help you get better.
Have an aftercare plan in place. At minimum, say you plan to get weekly therapy. Involve family in the aftercare plan if you can.
Tell them about the goals you want to achieve when you leave. They’ll ask what you plan to do when you leave. Ensure your answer talks about doing things that are productive and meaningful.
Get an attorney who specializes in these cases. If your family will pay for it, let them. If anyone offers to pay for the attorney, let them. Even if you aren’t on great terms with the person helping pay for the attorney. Even if your hold is legal, you are still entitled to a hearing in front of a judge. An attorney can advocate for you to be released in this hearing.
Don’t talk to people on the phone who will upset you. Don’t have visitors that will upset you or lash out. Avoid reactions.

Everyone deserves real help for their mental health. Do not share thoughts of harm to self in others in the ER, to cops, crisis people, or people in psych wards. Find a therapist who is a safe person to tell this to. If you want treatment that’s more intensive than individual therapy, look into support groups.

Or residential (not psych inpatient or crisis res), PHP, and IOP programs. I did PHP/IOP for 7 1/2 months and discharged from the program last year. This program greatly helped me. I wouldn’t go for a PHP/IOP program affiliated with a hospital as those places are way more likely to 5150 you. Private or nonprofit practices are less likely to do that.

Also my empathy goes out to fellow autistics who have been in this situation. I am autistic and it’s definitely worse for us.

I live in the U.S. Oatley, Nadamoo, and So Delicious have declined in their vanilla ice cream. Breyers sucks. I don’t want to make my own ice cream.

I haven’t tried cosmic bliss in awhile, is that good? Is the sprouts ice cream good? I’ve also heard of fronen, is that good?

I’m an adult living with my mother who’s emotionally abusive and has threatened to kick me out several times. I currently have medical issues that prevent me from working, going to school, or driving. This has been the case for 5 months now. I am a medi-cal recipient. My grandfather has agreed to pay my rent for the time being but I don’t have anyone to drive me to see the rooms. I live in RSM. 211 was no help- they said since I’m not a senior, there are no resources for me. I don’t live near a good bus stop to get to these places. I’m also autistic with a vestibular disorder so I need my own room and an environment that’s silent when I sleep. Are there any non-profits that can help me with this? Friendship shelter is no help.

I’m a transfer planning to start at a local university in the fall. I have secured university housing. I’ll have to take out 25k in government loans (over the course of two years) to pay for it. I currently live with my mother for financial and health reasons (I have health issues but I hope to be fully recovered by the time school starts). My mother is pissed about this. She yelled and screamed at me that I’m making a bad decision.

She told me that if I do this, she will not financially help me after I graduate and she may never let me live with her again. This scares me because I don’t want to be homeless over the summer or after I graduate. None of my other relatives will let me live with them. I’m 26 and will be 27 in September so I won’t qualify for a lot of the transitional living programs. I’m going to get a part time job and apply for summer jobs that provide housing. I can’t live with my abusive mother for two more years.

I’m a transfer planning to start at a local university in the fall. I have secured university housing. I’ll have to take out 25k in government loans (over the course of two years) to pay for it. I currently live with my mother for financial and health reasons (I have health issues but I hope to be fully recovered by the time school starts). My mother is pissed about this. She yelled and screamed at me that I’m making a bad decision.

She told me that if I do this, she will not financially help me after I graduate and she may never let me live with her again. This scares me because I don’t want to be homeless over the summer or after I graduate. None of my other relatives will let me live with them. I’m 26 and will be 27 in September so I won’t qualify for a lot of the transitional living programs. I’m going to get a part time job and apply for summer jobs that provide housing. I can’t live with my abusive mother for two more years.

I’m an incoming transfer. I’m choosing this school because its housing accommodates my needs as an autistic person better than the other schools I got into.

I’m trying to see how well they’re insulated.

I have to share a room at my university for the following year. I ideally would get accommodations for a single room based on my sensory sensitivities to sound caused by my autism but my school is terrible at accommodating disabled students. All the single rooms for the coming year are filled.

They prioritize all housing (including singles) based on first come, first serve. I’m an incoming transfer student, so I got screwed over this year. I’m scared my roommate will be one of those people that studies in the room late at night and refuses to study somewhere else if it’s past 10pm (there are multiple study rooms and lounges in the building in addition to the common areas in our apartment).

Even light typing is enough to prevent me from sleeping. I’ve used earbuds before, but I’m scared I’ll have to turn the volume up to a level that hurts my ears to block out noise. This causes tinnitus and ear pain. I’ve tried using a noise cancelling feature on some headphones and earbuds but this hurts my ears. I am also considering asking my roommate if she would be ok with me playing calming sleep music from YouTube on my phone while I sleep without headphones (I’d ensure the music would be hours long and would be ad-free).

I’ve used earplugs. They’re either uncomfortable or they don’t fully block out noise.

Edit: I also toss and turn and sleep in all positions (side, back, stomach) so I need something that works for me.

I have to share a room at my university for the following year. I ideally would get accommodations for a single room based on my sensory sensitivities to sound caused by my autism but my school is terrible at accommodating disabled students. All the single rooms for the coming year are filled.

They prioritize all housing (including singles) based on first come, first serve. I’m an incoming transfer student, so I got screwed over this year. I’m scared my roommate will be one of those people that studies in the room late at night and refuses to study somewhere else if it’s past 10pm (there are multiple study rooms and lounges in the building in addition to the common areas in our apartment).

Even light typing is enough to prevent me from sleeping. I’ve used earbuds before, but I’m scared I’ll have to turn the volume up to a level that hurts my ears to block out noise. This causes tinnitus and ear pain. I am also considering asking my roommate if she would be ok with me playing calming sleep music from YouTube on my phone while I sleep without headphones (I’d ensure the music would be hours long and would be ad-free).

I’ve used earplugs. They’re either uncomfortable or they don’t fully block out noise.

Edit: I’ve tried using a noise cancelling feature on some headphones and earbuds but this hurts my ears.

Edit: Edit: I also toss and turn and sleep in all positions (side, back, stomach) so I need something that works for me.

I have to share a room at my university for the following year. I ideally would get accommodations for a single room based on my sensory sensitivities to sound caused by my autism but my school is terrible at accommodating disabled students. All the single rooms for the coming year are filled.

They prioritize all housing (including singles) based on first come, first serve. I’m an incoming transfer student, so I got screwed over this year. I’m scared my roommate will be one of those people that studies in the room late at night and refuses to study somewhere else if it’s past 10pm (there are multiple study rooms and lounges in the building in addition to the common areas in our apartment).

Even light typing is enough to prevent me from sleeping. I’ve used earbuds before, but I’m scared I’ll have to turn the volume up to a level that hurts my ears to block out noise. This causes tinnitus and ear pain. I am also considering asking my roommate if she would be ok with me playing calming sleep music from YouTube on my phone while I sleep without headphones (I’d ensure the music would be hours long and would be ad-free).

I’ve used earplugs. They’re either uncomfortable or they don’t fully block out noise.

Edit: I’ve tried using a noise cancelling feature on some headphones and earbuds but this hurts my ears.

Edit: Edit: I also toss and turn and sleep in all positions (side, back, stomach) so I need something that works for me.

I have to share a room at my university for the following year. I ideally would get accommodations for a single room based on my sensory sensitivities to sound caused by my autism but my school is terrible at accommodating disabled students. All the single rooms for the coming year are filled.

They prioritize all housing (including singles) based on first come, first serve. I’m an incoming transfer student, so I got screwed over this year. I’m scared my roommate will be one of those people that studies in the room late at night and refuses to study somewhere else if it’s past 10pm (there are multiple study rooms and lounges in the building in addition to the common areas in our apartment).

Even light typing is enough to prevent me from sleeping. I’ve used earbuds before, but I’m scared I’ll have to turn the volume up to a level that hurts my ears to block out noise. This causes tinnitus and ear pain. I am also considering asking my roommate if she would be ok with me playing calming sleep music from YouTube on my phone while I sleep without headphones (I’d ensure the music would be hours long and would be ad-free).

I’ve used earplugs. They’re either uncomfortable or they don’t fully block out noise.

Edit: I’ve tried using a noise cancelling feature on some headphones and earbuds but this hurts my ears.

Edit: Edit: I also toss and turn and sleep in all positions (side, back, stomach) so I need something that works for me.