u/Eldenringop

Not comparing ppl to objects it’s just a metaphor to understand the dating scene. If that’s what you take from this you are the problem and are stupid . Do you like buying stuff new or refurbished? If you got a better analogy let me know .

Women’s view on dating is vastly different because men in higher numbers pursue and have vastly lower expectations. If you want to understand this as a woman stop being offended get out of your bubble read up and think . Many chicks have made a “good guy wait” but other guy got in no effort. Take that view imagine a man making you do more while another chick got whatever from him for way less even no effort. Many women have experienced this as comparing things and places the ex went and are furious. But why don’t they view it the same way on the other end ? It’s the same thing no one wants a bad deal common sense . It explains why men go for younger same maybe less difficulty for a much better experience.

The guy that has no money barely any looks personality is similarly to the single mom and whale , old lady. That same guy you have pay for everything do everything and expect nothing. Same for the ladies . What sane person wants that ? Same for high body count. The funny thing is that guys main problem is just looks if he were Chad he wouldn’t be in that pool. The women that are bottom tier it’s a choice for the most part (I understand single moms can happen because of factors outside control). Being fat and difficult is a choice being a single mother you outside extreme cases is a choice . You let a guy that’s just hot use you . That was your choice no one forced you.

TLDR left over men are mainly just looks genetics and women are life choices. Bottom man isn’t equal to bottom woman. High body counts matter no one wants to be the I can fix her guy . Especially since the reward and effort aren’t worth it . No one wants a shit deal especially one they have to work hard for. If women’s standards are high no matter their standing why not go for best looking ones? Difficult 23 year old> 30 plus

Most men in relationships would be off with an escort. Many men report feeling more love with an escort for 1 hour vs 30 year of marriage. It’s that bad women need to step up . And thats just talking to them not even the sex.
Those ppl literally accept cucking as a “good relationship “. It’s about being in a decent one no one needs to be lucky to have a job just work as a McDonald’s toilet cleaner . 1 that doesn’t pay bills 2 no one wants to clean toilets especially for cheap. People want good jobs just like they want good relationship. You can get in a deadbedrooms one thats terrible. A single mother even worse . Dating past 20s another L most likely it’s terrible and no one wants whales and baggage it says something about their personality . The happiest couples married young . No one is saying you have be top 5 but not everyone wants relationship. If you want to enjoy casual sex as a guy you’d have to be top guy or even if you want good success on the apps. No picking up whales is not the flex bro or single mothers .

Anytime a woman does anything wrong to a man such as domestic abuse, physical assault, sexual assault, rape, sexual harassment, etc then there is always a ton of men who claim that “if the roles were reversed and a man did that to a woman he’d lose his career and be locked up” meanwhile men get away with the same crime constantly.

I even saw people saying this about a woman who twerked on a man and touched another mans ass, which obviously you don’t do that without consent but there were so many people saying that if she were a man she’d be locked up, and it drives me insane because men don’t go to jail for rape why do you think they'd go to jail for minor sexual assault/harassment? There are so many famous rapist men who are not in prison and whose careers have been largely or entirely unaffected by it.

Men unironically think that men are instantly locked up when they look at a woman in a pervy way but a woman can do whatever she wants to a man and everybody loves her. They love to act like the world is misandrist but their main evidence for this is for some random teenage girl saying she hates men online.

In a transactional relationship you tend to see the man give the woman money and the woman give the man sex. Given that it is transactional you may think that both gain equally since transactions only occur when both party's are okay with the arrangement. While others think that because men have money they actually hold the power since one needs money but not sex.

But think of it this way. When a man wants to use a woman for her body he still wants her. She is the end in of itself. She is completely inseparable from her body as she is her body. But when a woman wants a man for money the man is in the way of what she wants. And a man is completely separatable from his money. She does not want the man as the man is just a means to an end and not an end in of itself.

Some people will tell you that your body isn't your "real you" and that your real you is your mind. But that is just the remnants of theology where your soul was the real you and your flesh was just the incarnation of your soul. We know better know. You are as much your flesh and you are your mind. Hence when a man wants a woman's body he truly does want a woman. But when a woman wants a mans money she does not want the man.

Women treat men like men treat jobs . Minimum wage minimum effort . Minimum need/want minimum effort ect you get the idea . It explains why highly attractive men have a vastly different experience since they are equivalent to a high paying job so high effort .

Women treat men like men treat jobs . Minimum wage minimum effort . Minimum need/want minimum effort ect you get the idea . It explains why highly attractive men have a vastly different experience since they are equivalent to a high paying job so high effort .

Perspective. Hot take if a woman wants a provider she should be fine with satisfying her husband. Not doing so it’s like paying a subscription to not use it . Cooking and cleaning taking care of your own kids is bare minimum btw. Cooking cost money and cleaning . Women spends more time home.

Perspective. Hot take if a woman wants a provider she should be fine with satisfying her husband. Not doing so it’s like paying a subscription to not use it . Cooking and cleaning taking care of your own kids is bare minimum btw. Cooking cost money and cleaning . Women spends more time home.

I'm a man that is 30 and has never had a girlfriend or any sort of sustained interaction with women besides being a coworker (*With a caveat, explained further in the post). And I'll also preface the rest of the post by saying I'm Black, a big no no in dating I guess. No I'm not chasing white women. I'm open to all ethnicities.

It really does make one question "Am I just uglier than I think?". Because I do see men that are unattractive in relationships, and the woman often isn't attractive either (Nothing wrong with that though). I also cannot speak to the quality of the relationship or whatever goes on behind the scenes, but I at the very least go in my head "They at least found something, why can't I?".

People make it seem as if getting a relationship is as easy as going outside and talking to people, and it kind of just isn't? It really feels like a psyop. I'm in shape, well groomed, and my only real standard is that I want a woman that is also in shape, but I literally haven't found a single woman interested in me in the 10+ years I've been out and about.

At this point, the thought of it just seems extremely weird. Whenever I see couples, it's like looking at a pair of aliens. The social dynamics always seem odd and performative. I am not a virgin, but it's only because I've used paid avenues.

And no, there's nothing about my mindset that is the issue (Not misogynistic). People do describe me as nice, my coworkers describe me as professional, but nada. I feel like an alien among humans to be honest.